Back in the mists of time we had these things called 'demos' it would be nice if the game industry brought those back. I'm not sure where they went. :|Durgiun said:
Pirates ruining it for the rest of us.
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I want to just quote your entire post but I was forced to trim it down to the pithy climax.Deviate said:
This is exactly it. Turning on the pirates is exactly what the companies want you to do, to take the heat off of them as they continue to fuck over the industry. Having the legal high ground may made you inculpable in courts, but it sure doesn't make you right.
They only consider us the enemy because pirates are stealing their games... if they didn't then DRM and all that comes with it wouldn't exist would it.Olivia Faraday said:
Not entirely sure how people don't see how DRM (like I said in my OP I don't like being treated like a criminal either) is a reaction to piracy not something that games developers did just to be annoying.
It's something that gamers need to judge what to spend their money on. They need to bring them back. It would probably do a lot more good than the epic DRM and restrictions.Durgiun said:
On a side note - I like to think that the new Demo is the "Beta passes" that get released with games these days. (For reference, see the BF3 Open Beta) That seems to be the way people try out games without having to pirate it. Which is a shame because I prefer polished demo's rather than testing things out. But maybe I'm just seeing Beta tests in the wrong light.
I mean sure they exist so bugs can be found. But a majority of people play it just so they can get their hands on it and try it out. XD
I mean sure they exist so bugs can be found. But a majority of people play it just so they can get their hands on it and try it out. XD
Exactly what this fine sir or madam said. We can't stop it, we can't hope to ever stop it entirely, and it's not our jobs to stop it either.PanYue said:
Maybe there's a way to prevent piracy. You make bogus torrent file saying like "Witcher full game" and when pirates will download the "game" when they will open the file and BAM ! A VIRUS THAT COMPLETELY CRASHES THEIR COMPUTERS with a message saying "That'll teach ya, cheap bastard !"
Or simply, shut down PirateBay, im surprised that it's not already done.
Or simply, shut down PirateBay, im surprised that it's not already done.
Student uses a cheat sheet.xXxJessicaxXx said:
Teacher gives entire class a 0 because student used a cheat sheet and tell classmates that it's the student's fault.
Classmates turn on student instead of teacher.
Yeah, that sounds legit.
Pirate Bay is far from the only torrent site. Also since having a torrent site isn't exactly illegal since it uses a loophole in the law that wouldn't stop new sites from popping up even if they were able to shut down the ones that exist.Phlakes said:
If they made it illegal that would still not stop private torrent site where you must have an invite to join and they would never get shut down since they're hard to find.
I've never heard of such a thing. That's how school works in the US ? If one student cheats then the entire class pays for it ? In Canada, when you get caught cheating, you get a 0 and that's the end of it.Olivia Faraday said:
You actually think PC DRM has all that much to do with piracy? Really? Stop and think for a minute. What does most PC DRM do a better job at stopping secondhand sales or piracy? I can tell you I can go out and torrent pretty much any damn PC game on the market right now but there is no way at all to buy them used. You think that's a happy fucking coincidence?xXxJessicaxXx said:
DRM is meant to screw the paying customer. It's meant to make sure your games are worthless after the initial purchase and make sure they keep as much control as possible over a product they are allegedly selling you. Companies know that fighting piracy is a futile effort but it sounds a lot nicer to say your fighting piracy rather than say we want to strip every little bit of control over the products we are selling you away from you after we have your money.
Even if piracy vanished tomorrow DRM isn't going anywhere. It would still be around to keep the paying customers in check and make sure that the publishers/developers keep control. Sure, it might be masked in things like the Diablo 3 real money auction house or cloud saves or what have you but it would still be around and obnoxious as ever. Piracy is nothing more than a talking point to be used when publishers and developers need to explain why they are screwing over the people paying the bills.
Well it does to me... because that student ruined it for the rest of the class. In your example the teacher as the game developer wouldn't know which student did it... which would make their action much more understandable.Olivia Faraday said:
The teacher only took their marks away because of the cheating student. If that cheating student wasn't there they wouldn't have done anything.
Your own metaphor proves you wrong.
A lot of people would argue that second hand sales are also piracy but like I said thats a dicussion for another time.Xanthious said:
I'm pretty sure the main reason DRM and restrictions where introduced was to stop piracy most developers have now provided a way to legitimise your copy of a game for a tenner or suchlike if you buy them second hand.
I've never heard of such a thing. That's how school works in the US ? If one student cheats then the entire class pays for it ? In Canada, when you get caught cheating, you get a 0 and that's the end of it.[/quote]The Floating Nose said:
Not American myself, and I'm pretty sure this isn't a standard thing. But it happens in a lot of places on a teacher by teacher basis, and it's pretty much across the board a shitty idea that shows a basic misunderstanding of how things should be handled.
Which is my point.
They think that they can get away with it, but what they do, EVERYONE pays for it, with SOPA and game publishers, distributors, and the whole industry being tight wads, and making online passes, etc, etc, and we ALL pay for what they do. I know that their excuse of "they won't miss $60." Well, those $60 add up, and think of $60 times the number of pirated copies of witcher 2. that's almost a billion dollars. pirates are doing this, and EVERYONE else pays for it. we get punished for their crime.
I don't pirate, i may be one person, but I try to be an example for people, by doing the right thing. they need to stop, because it's making it hard for people who don't.
I don't pirate, i may be one person, but I try to be an example for people, by doing the right thing. they need to stop, because it's making it hard for people who don't.