Planescape Creator Has "Kickstarter Fever" - UPDATED

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Soviet Heavy

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SmashLovesTitanQuest said:
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DustyDrB said:
I can't think of a game creator more worthy than Avellone to get the Kickstarter treatment.
Let's see.... provided we remove copyright from the matter, I can think of three games that desperately need Obsidian sequels. New Vegas, Planescape 2, and The Sith Lords.
New Vegas did really well. We can speculate that Bethesda's next big project will be another Fallout game. And after that, they might let Obsidian do another Fallout game. I could be wrong but if I remember correctly Beth seemed quite pleased with New Vegas.
I know New Vegas did well. But going back to Fallout 3 after playing NV made it tortuous. If Bethesda just let Obsidian work with the Skyrim engine and make a new Fallout Game instead of going back to a Bethesda Fallout, I'd be overjoyed. But that ain't gonna happen.
 

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Soviet Heavy said:
SmashLovesTitanQuest said:
Soviet Heavy said:
DustyDrB said:
I can't think of a game creator more worthy than Avellone to get the Kickstarter treatment.
Let's see.... provided we remove copyright from the matter, I can think of three games that desperately need Obsidian sequels. New Vegas, Planescape 2, and The Sith Lords.
New Vegas did really well. We can speculate that Bethesda's next big project will be another Fallout game. And after that, they might let Obsidian do another Fallout game. I could be wrong but if I remember correctly Beth seemed quite pleased with New Vegas.
I know New Vegas did well. But going back to Fallout 3 after playing NV made it tortuous. If Bethesda just let Obsidian work with the Skyrim engine and make a new Fallout Game instead of going back to a Bethesda Fallout, I'd be overjoyed. But that ain't gonna happen.
Wrong. Going back to Fallout 3 after New Vegas was torturous. New Vegas was a better game in every way it was possible to be better, and it was a true Fallout game unlike that other abortion.
 

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matrix3509 said:
Soviet Heavy said:
SmashLovesTitanQuest said:
Soviet Heavy said:
DustyDrB said:
I can't think of a game creator more worthy than Avellone to get the Kickstarter treatment.
Let's see.... provided we remove copyright from the matter, I can think of three games that desperately need Obsidian sequels. New Vegas, Planescape 2, and The Sith Lords.
New Vegas did really well. We can speculate that Bethesda's next big project will be another Fallout game. And after that, they might let Obsidian do another Fallout game. I could be wrong but if I remember correctly Beth seemed quite pleased with New Vegas.
I know New Vegas did well. But going back to Fallout 3 after playing NV made it tortuous. If Bethesda just let Obsidian work with the Skyrim engine and make a new Fallout Game instead of going back to a Bethesda Fallout, I'd be overjoyed. But that ain't gonna happen.
Wrong. Going back to Fallout 3 after New Vegas was torturous. New Vegas was a better game in every way it was possible to be better, and it was a true Fallout game unlike that other abortion.
Ummm, that's what I said. I said that it is painful playing 3 after New vegas.
 

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Wow. Three minds of brilliance all are willing to return to form together at the fans discretion. What exciting new thing do those fans all clamor for? Sequels. :(
 

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twm1709 said:
I hope this Kickstarter thing stays under control. The idea of EA or Activision asking for Fan money to launch risky/retro games crossed my mind for a moment...
Not everyone would be able to have as much success with Kickstarter as Double Fine has. Their fund is working so well because of the people and the idea behind it. Tim Schafer is a beloved figure in the video game industry and Double Fine has almost always had trouble developing their games because of publishers so they have a long enough history with funding trouble that the Kickstarter seems quite justified. The idea of an adventure game being made by some of the biggest names in the genre is extremely appealing to adventure game fans and, if nothing else, their Kickstarter is a big "screw you" to the publishers that refuse to fund anything they don't think will make ridiculous sums of money, even if the budget being requested is relatively small.

Activision/EA starting a Kickstarter fund would go over with the masses about as well as a billionaire wanting donations to buy a new private jet. A Kickstarter coming straight from the developers to fund a new game for a beloved franchise that would otherwise be rejected outright by publishers, like what Obsidian is considering, is a different story.

All of this is new territory for the industry, though. It's hart to tell where this will go and if Kickstarter-funded games will become a regular occurrence. My hope is that maybe, if nothing else, this will help convince publishers to not be so paranoid and skittish, and perhaps they'll start funding more projects they'd currently deem "too risky".
 

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Irridium said:
An old-school isometric RPG made by Avallone, Sawyer, and Cain?

I'm sorry, I can't hear anything over the sound of my massive erection.
Stopped being able to read the page about halfway through....
 

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wow this is a very interesting idea. Money supplied -beforehand- by ardent fans of a particular niche group.

In other words, it's like the opposite of CoD syndrome. Avellone and friends don't have to worry about pandering to beauty-graphics, quick-time masses, and can instead pour their time and resources into doing what they -actually- love. Epic story here we come?
 

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Soviet Heavy said:
matrix3509 said:
Soviet Heavy said:
SmashLovesTitanQuest said:
Soviet Heavy said:
DustyDrB said:
I can't think of a game creator more worthy than Avellone to get the Kickstarter treatment.
Let's see.... provided we remove copyright from the matter, I can think of three games that desperately need Obsidian sequels. New Vegas, Planescape 2, and The Sith Lords.
New Vegas did really well. We can speculate that Bethesda's next big project will be another Fallout game. And after that, they might let Obsidian do another Fallout game. I could be wrong but if I remember correctly Beth seemed quite pleased with New Vegas.
I know New Vegas did well. But going back to Fallout 3 after playing NV made it tortuous. If Bethesda just let Obsidian work with the Skyrim engine and make a new Fallout Game instead of going back to a Bethesda Fallout, I'd be overjoyed. But that ain't gonna happen.
Wrong. Going back to Fallout 3 after New Vegas was torturous. New Vegas was a better game in every way it was possible to be better, and it was a true Fallout game unlike that other abortion.
Ummm, that's what I said. I said that it is painful playing 3 after New vegas.
Ah my bad. Sorry about that then.
 

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As far as I remember the Planescape story was wrapped up, so a sequel is not needed. (THANK GOD!). A new game set in the Planscape however...or hell...maybe Paizos Golarion....oh man....the possibilities..............
 

DustyDrB

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I want a follow-up to KotOR 2, another espionage RPG (so...a chance at refining Alpha Protocol), or a new IP. I would love it for them to disregard all the terrible story written in the Revan Novel and The Old Republic concerning The Exile, the Sith, and Revan. They should just say, "Fuck it! We're doing this anyway!"

And...I know. Licensing. All that. A guy can dream.
 

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*Looks at Avadon: Black Fortress icon on Destop*

You don't need money to make an isometric RPG Chris Avellone, you just need the will.
 

Korten12

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Honestly I want Alpha Protocol 2 or some game in that same vien. It was one of the very few games that when they said: "your choices impact the game" and truly meant it, every action changed how things happened. Hell even doing missions in certian order could change things.
 

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Whoa. And thus, after three days, the world has changed. Suddenly, a sequel to Beyond Good and Evil and Eternal Darkness: Sanity's Requiem similarly might have possibilities. Double Fine changed the game, and the way the game is paid for. Damn. That's just freaking awesome. Player-funded models might become much, much more viable, soon.

Irridium said:
An old-school isometric RPG made by Avallone, Sawyer, and Cain?

I'm sorry, I can't hear anything over the sound of my massive erection.
Can you put that thing away? It's blocking both my line of vision, and my own excited member.
 

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The only project I want Obsidian working on right now is Fallout 4. Bethesda should focus on making DLC for Skyrim, or Rage, or whatever other game they want that does not depend upon remotely good writing.

I know it's sad to let go, but the licenses for Planescape, NWN and KotOR are not coming back to Obsidian. And Alpha Protocol was simply not enough fun to warrant a sequel.
 

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Andy Chalk said:
Okay, simmer down, I was only messing with you.
Oh you cruel, cruel man.

Okay, never mind, I take that back. I think you hit the nail on the head in the next paragraph. Much like a failed and pitiful sequel to Duke Nukem 3D, a Planescape 2 would probably only take our hopes and dreams and stomp all over them. So I won't be so quick to "dare to dream", replacing that with "cautious optimism".
 

Adam Jensen_v1legacy

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So game developers want to make cool games again. They just can't get funded by publishers unless they want to make something mainstream? Fuck publishers. Why is the entire entertainment industry being run by the middleman? They don't contribute to anything. Yet they have created this atmosphere where they want you to think that you can't do anything without them. Movie publishers, game publishers, music publishers etc. are all talentless greedy middleman assholes. Nowhere is this phenomenon as big as in America though. The entire fuckin' country is being run by the middleman. And they want copyrights for things they didn't make. So they could make more money they don't deserve. And then they wonder why people are starting to hate capitalism.

/end rant.

I want Alpha Protocol 2. And I want it to actually work. AP was a bugfest. I am willing to donate.