Well, the person who made the poster is a bit of a derp in my opinion, then. Nonetheless, I'll give up a day of Skyrim in order to participate. I want information too, dammit.Panorama said:
Play Half-Life 2 for Half-Life 3
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Yup, Valve are definitely "avin a larf" with this whole episodic gaming thing. But to be honest, and I know I'mma be broiled alive for saying this, I'd rather have had Portal 2 than HL2E3 last year. Go figure.
By the by, is it just me that gets creeped out by the G-Man? He scary. Very scary.
By the by, is it just me that gets creeped out by the G-Man? He scary. Very scary.
Actually, they already revealed what's after Dota 2. It's Counter-Strike: Global Offensive. Set to release this summer.YodaUnleashed said:
That said, they literally have nothing "officially" slated after that point. And I do mean nothing. They've been rather mum about anything after Dota 2 and CS:GO. Even in regards to DLC and updates.
Tack on Gaben saying something about showing off "something with a three in it" at E3 this year, and who knows. Maybe they will be showing Half-Life 3. Or a new engine. Or a new IP.
Though, despite what some people have been saying, I really don't see them revealing a Team Fortress 3 or a Left 4 Dead 3. Seeing as TF2 just went F2P and the fiasco with L4D2, I don't see it happening.
So then...play Half-Life 1 instead? I'd assume it doesn't really matter which one you're playing.guidance said:
Is there anything more obnoxious than a HL hater?Monkeyman O said:
For fucks sake people. We know you hate the game. You've made that abundantly clear for the past EIGHT YEARS. Can we please just have a comple of months without everyone fucking whining about it?
I honestly hope to God that Gabe releases it on purpose just so we can gloat how great it is for months. Just as others did with Skyrim.
Yep. They're a weekly occurrence on this forum. Have been for years.MurderousToaster said:
You know, I know a lot of people whined about how many Skyrim threads popped up last November and December. But honestly? I wasn't that bothered. The overflow of Skyrim threads drastically cut back on the number of 'HL2 I don't get it', 'You have to ____ the last ____ you ___ in a game', and general 'troll' threads that usually flood the forums.
In fact...I kinda miss the respite. Oh well.
Hmmm. I hadn't thought of that. Sven Co-op sounds like a great way to both support the cause AND have fun.Fredrikorex said:I won't be playing HL2 (don't have it) but I think I'll play some Half-Life or Sven Coop to support this in some way.
I may just join you, in so far as playing the same game that is.
Four words, MASSIVE WASTE OF TIME!
Valve either no longer care or have no idea what direction to take HL in. The most HL fans can hope for is HL3.
Valve either no longer care or have no idea what direction to take HL in. The most HL fans can hope for is HL3.
It came off as that from the article tho.Beryl77 said:
And I still can't say I fully understand the group. Yes, not being fed with screenshots and dev diaries like others feels like one dad is playing with their kids and yours is ignoring you. But I don't see a reason for Valve to abandon their flagship in the middle just like that. They obviously did a lot of setup for the hero-for-hire thing, I don't see why they should drop it now. They probably got distracted with other projects, but Half-Life is simply a big project, their flagship.
And "big project" in Valve terms, if you listened to the dev diaries, means not ever being satisfied with it and redoing entire acts again and again and again until they find something that kinda works in their opinion. They always produce enough material for 3 games, then cut everything but the top percentages.
So you can see how such a working order is terrible when it comes to building up hype, because you'd constantly have to go back on your word and anger the fanbase. In addition, Episode 3 is said to be heavier on horror elements. And horror elements simply need the moment of surprise. Leaking monster concept art could ruin an entire moment they rewrote for months until it was perfect. And seeing how big Episode 3 is on the net, the only way to avoid that piece of concept art would be to cut your internet connection or something.
Valve knows that. I actually have a lot of respect for them for being able to keep their mouths shut this whole time without a single leak despite the size of this project.
Consider the time between the episodes and HL1 and HL2 and add to this the number of "side projects" they had in addition to the fact they usually produce enough material for 3 games, then cut everything but the best parts, AND the fact that the last part of an arc is probably the most important part for a story people are already invested in AND the expectations that have been built up (both by fans and the industry).Laughing Man said:
Pretty much every dev's commentary from Valve has reinforced the idea that they never exactly know what they're gonna do. Everything is dynamic, that's how they stay competitive and keep their QA high - but that's also what makes the dev cycles so long.
True, Half Life fans will see complex messages in irrelevant groups of numbers or see the G-Man's face in wall textures or something...kiri2tsubasa said:
But the hint I was referring to was this:
It confirms the existence of the Borealis as a ship, it confirms that the Borealis exists within the Portal universe and was created by Aperture Science. It shows that Valve are still paying attention to the story threads they created for Half Life. But still we get nothing. Grr.
Yeah, why not? I haven't replayed it in a while, if I dedicate myself I might actually get it done by the end of the weekend.
The worst thing is when they ask "AM I THE ONLY ONE WHO DID NOT LIKE HALF LIFE 2?". I understand it's meant to be rhetorical and they're fully aware that, statistically, they won't be, but it's just so irritating that they seem to be so brazenly unaware of the fact that the same identical thread has been appearing on the same goddamn forum for so long. That said, at least it actually encourages the tiniest bit of (repetitive) discussion. I do favour that over the flipping mass of Tali fan-wank threads that came up after Mass Effect 2 was released, or the same almost ctrl+v'd "I hate Call of Duty" threads that come up around the same time each year. Thankfully, those were very nearly fully suppressed by Skyrim this time around.Vigormortis said:
Marik Bentusi said:
Yeah, I remember the wait between Half-Life 1 and Half-Life 2 and I know that the guys at Valve are perfectionists and that's why their games are so good. It's also clear to me that they haven't abandoned Half-Life, it wouldn't make any sense at this point.
I can't speak for anyone in that group but when I talk about communication with Valve, I don't mean that they should show us pics and vids about the game when they're obviously not ready.
I know how some fans reacted when ep2 was different than what was shown in the trailer at the end of ep1. I know they tend change a lot during the development and I understand that they don't want to show stuff too early.
However, with communication, I mean that they could tell us whether they're actively working on it or whether we should not expect anything for the next two years. It doesn't mean that they abandoned it, just that they work more on other project. There is evidence that they were working on it at some point but something changed. Maybe they just weren't happy to make a mere "episode" anymore and wanted to make a full-fledged game, maybe they took a break with the Half-Life games. I don't know and I don't care right now for the reasons but I'd like to know whether I can expect the next game before I finish my study or whether I shouldn't bother thinking about it because it will still take a very long time until it's ready for a reveal.
I'm fine with both. What I'm not fine with is the uncertainty. That's what?s frustrating for me, not the wait. That's what I think Valve doesn't handle well. It's pretty much the only criticism I have for that company. In interviews, they don't acknowledge the existence of the game but neither do they deny its existence. Again, saying they aren't working actively on it doesn't mean they won't ever release it, just not in the next few years.
I think that it would be beneficial for everyone if they told us that. For example, over the years, the expectations from fans have gone up a lot. Many expect the game to blow their minds in a way which maybe Valve won't be able to do and the longer it takes the bigger the expectations. Fans would be less frustrated and wouldn't pester them so much with questions about when the next Half-Life game would be released. We'd be more at peace with it. Of course some would do that but I believe it would make many people happy and it would make it easier for Valve.
But I have to say, that I only speak for me here. I know that the creator of that group has similar thoughts and intentions but with a group that big, it's nearly impossible that everyone thinks like that. Some really just want Valve to tell us things about the game even though they're not ready.
So, I can understand if not everyone wants to join the group. The biggest reason why I like it, is not because I think we could accomplish something. It's that Half-Life fans are united and try to do something together. We're not bothering Valve, we're not constantly sending them mails or spamming them in other ways. We don't threaten Valve to boycott their games if they don't talk to us. We send the message in a respectful and mature manner.
the obama administration promises to respond to any petition that has 25000 signatures within 30 days.
There has to be 36000 unique players on halflife 2 for x hours/days to perhaps maybe possibly get a response from Valve about whats happening with the halflife franchise
There has to be 36000 unique players on halflife 2 for x hours/days to perhaps maybe possibly get a response from Valve about whats happening with the halflife franchise
Cruel Reality: There is no Half-Life 3.
Until Valve actually puts the game out; or at least a definitive release date, it doesn't exist.
Everything else is speculation, and I can speculate about fucking anything:
Whether HL3 is coming out, if EA is run by an incredibly wealthy S&M club, or if Gabe Newell's farts smell like Deuterium.
So until then, I'm just going to grab my popcorn and watch an entire fanbase writhe in confusion and self-denial even as cruel reality continues to assert itself.
Until Valve actually puts the game out; or at least a definitive release date, it doesn't exist.
Everything else is speculation, and I can speculate about fucking anything:
Whether HL3 is coming out, if EA is run by an incredibly wealthy S&M club, or if Gabe Newell's farts smell like Deuterium.
So until then, I'm just going to grab my popcorn and watch an entire fanbase writhe in confusion and self-denial even as cruel reality continues to assert itself.
It really is a hard reality for most HL fans. The concept that Valve may well have given up on the HL franchise.
The fact is Valve no longer needs the HL franchise, Steam alone is a massive success by on its own, but on top of that they also have several other very successful IPs all gone of which have gone on to sell in early numbers similar to HL2;
- Counter Strike
- Left 4 Dead
- Portal
You also have to add the fact that ALL of those games came out after HL2 and have ALL gone on to have, or will have, a fully fledged sequel since with no word about a follow up to HL.
I don't buy the 'keeping it a top secret' secret. All of the major games from Valve have had more than enough: info, pics, videos and previews well in advanced of their launch. The fact Valve aren't saying anything about a HL sequel shouldn't be taken as an indicator that it is being worked on in uber top secret conditions, it should be taken as a sign that it isn't being worked on at all.
As for the campaign to get them to give information, any information no matter what it is, well what works better for them?
Ignore the hype and continue to give the vague, we are we aren't nonsense along with a few in game hidden easter eggs designed to bait the die hards with nothing better to do.
or
Announce that they aren't doing anything with HL and potentially annoy a fan base who many will say helped make Valve what they are.
As for what we will get from Valve this year, well Counter Strike GO is going to tie them up on the lead up to and probably for a good while after its release, and probably a sequel to L4D, with addon micro transactions, ala Portal 2.
The fact is Valve no longer needs the HL franchise, Steam alone is a massive success by on its own, but on top of that they also have several other very successful IPs all gone of which have gone on to sell in early numbers similar to HL2;
- Counter Strike
- Left 4 Dead
- Portal
You also have to add the fact that ALL of those games came out after HL2 and have ALL gone on to have, or will have, a fully fledged sequel since with no word about a follow up to HL.
I don't buy the 'keeping it a top secret' secret. All of the major games from Valve have had more than enough: info, pics, videos and previews well in advanced of their launch. The fact Valve aren't saying anything about a HL sequel shouldn't be taken as an indicator that it is being worked on in uber top secret conditions, it should be taken as a sign that it isn't being worked on at all.
As for the campaign to get them to give information, any information no matter what it is, well what works better for them?
Ignore the hype and continue to give the vague, we are we aren't nonsense along with a few in game hidden easter eggs designed to bait the die hards with nothing better to do.
or
Announce that they aren't doing anything with HL and potentially annoy a fan base who many will say helped make Valve what they are.
As for what we will get from Valve this year, well Counter Strike GO is going to tie them up on the lead up to and probably for a good while after its release, and probably a sequel to L4D, with addon micro transactions, ala Portal 2.