Playing as a Different Gender
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That flies in the face of what roleplaying actually is, pretending to be something (an artificial construct) that isn't you. You can pretend this construct is indeed you, but strictly speaking it isn't the genuine flesh and blood, You.SurfinTaxt said:
As you are merely pretending to be something you are not, the You you actually are should not be falling in love with something that a different person is pretending to be. If you find yourself doing this I suggest taking a break from roleplaying for a while.
sorry for the double post, but this is important.SurfinTaxt said:
If I want to try to roleplay as a girl, I'm going to and frankly I don't care that you seem to think that men and woman are SOOOOO different that I wouldn't be able to get in the right mindset, because that's bullshit, on top of just being sexist.
And get lost in the female role? what the hell does that even mean? am I a toddler and unable to distinguish reality from fantasy? because that skill is developed around 4-5 years of age, it's nigh impossible to truly get lost in a role, there are exceptions, but those people are usually mentally ill. furthermore, what is a "female role"? Is this a dig against gays? saying that if a man acts like a woman, there is something terribly wrong? Or is it just saying that woman have certain gender roles that they HAVE to follow? because that again reeks of sexism, the terms male perspective and female perspective are losing more and more meaning, which they should be, your perspective is less about gender and more about everything else.
and finally, most people say the staring at a girls ass thing to get people like you off their back.
Remember this? Well, about that reason...Vegosiux said:
There it is.SurfinTaxt said:
You know, there's a difference between roleplaying cross-gender, and pretending to really be the other gender. If people want to fap to pixels, let them, but it's their problem if they find out it's a dude on the other end and they start questioning their sexual orientation as a result.
The only morally reprehensible thing here is blaming your own insecurities on other people.
If night elves do not exist, so there's nothing wrong with roleplaying one, why the hell is gender important? Night elf females are as nonexistent as night elf males are.
I find I tend to play girls in games simply because I enjoy looking at and listening to women more than men, probably because I am a male. Most games don't have much differentiation, if any, in how female characters play as compared to males, so unless you're playing with other people it doesn't make any difference for the most part.
I've never played an MMO and pretended to be a female. I think that would feel dishonest to me, and possibly a little creepy. I know the whole point of role playing is to play a role and there's nothing wrong with playing a role in which you pretend to be a different gender, but it's just not for me as far as interacting with real people goes.
I've never played an MMO and pretended to be a female. I think that would feel dishonest to me, and possibly a little creepy. I know the whole point of role playing is to play a role and there's nothing wrong with playing a role in which you pretend to be a different gender, but it's just not for me as far as interacting with real people goes.
SurfinTaxt said:
So which one is it?SurfinTaxt said:
I mean, if playing cross-gender makes you glaringly unauthentic, how in the nine hells of Baator can the second thing even happen?
"Taken advantage of"? Why are you trying to make people who do cross-gender RP look like predators who prey upon the weak-willed, gullible and naive?SurfinTaxt said:
I refuse to "think of the children!" when I'm doing something anyone with half a brain can understand is nothing wrong with.
The shameless flirting with Shaundi is ten times as awesome when you choose a woman.Otaku World Order said:
Also, DeWinters.
No, I play the role of my character in an MMO. If I want to play the role of me, I go outside.SurfinTaxt said:
Too vague. Are you meaning that I, as a person, start a platonic relationship with another person, and the only thing I know about that other person is their online avatar? I'd feel rather stupid in that case.
Or do you mean a relationship between characters in-game, ergo, they establish themselves as best friends/partners in life/mentor and apprentice/whathaveyou in the game's universe?
Why would I find myself infatuated with a fictional character?
And everything else, apparently, because I'd find out not only that they're the wrong gender, but that they also aren't their alleged race and can't throw fireballs either. And that they don't have that cool starship. And that they don't know the first thing about relationships.
Extremely stupid, for one, because I couldn't draw a line between player and his characters.
Oh for crying out loud.SurfinTaxt said:
EVERYTHING on a "roleplay server" is essentially false. It's all fictional. It's a story that goes on, written by different people together. None of it is real.
But in the end, if you want to know more about the player behind the character, then freakin' ask.
Actually, I'm playing a Bounty Hunter: Mercenary Bodyguard Spec that is female right now. Why am I doing that? Multiple reasons. I always like to play healers as female in games, for one. I made her cute so I had something nice to look at, for another. Also, I wanted to see if Bioware did the whole "Heavy armor bikini" thing that so many other games do. I'm happy to report that they didn't. My Bounty Hunter actually wears armor. It's just to conformed to her body type.
I have other characters on another server (most are below level 20 and I pretty much switched to this one to play with a friend) and half of them are male and half female. It really just depended on the class and how I wanted to play it. Currently, trying to decide what I am going to do with any other classes I make. I'm tempted to make a female Sniper or female Inquisitor, next. They just seem to be classes I wanna play see as females. The Inquisitor will probably depend on whether I play it DPS or heals.
So to sum it up, I play a character as a female when I want to play it as a female. I do relate more to male characters, and in this game I'm less inclined to "flirt" with NPCs as a female, but that's not saying a lot.
Now, if only Bioware will add a patch that lets me romance Mako....
But I'm not sure that people don't still assume that you are the sex of your avatar. On the above character I mentioned, I met someone in a Flashpoint that might actually think I am female. I don't know, I just got that sense. Probably doesn't help that I jokingly /flirt and /wink at other players when I group with them, all the time.
I have other characters on another server (most are below level 20 and I pretty much switched to this one to play with a friend) and half of them are male and half female. It really just depended on the class and how I wanted to play it. Currently, trying to decide what I am going to do with any other classes I make. I'm tempted to make a female Sniper or female Inquisitor, next. They just seem to be classes I wanna play see as females. The Inquisitor will probably depend on whether I play it DPS or heals.
So to sum it up, I play a character as a female when I want to play it as a female. I do relate more to male characters, and in this game I'm less inclined to "flirt" with NPCs as a female, but that's not saying a lot.
Now, if only Bioware will add a patch that lets me romance Mako....
I've heard of people doing that. I find it hilarious. But yes, it does make him a virtual whore.b1u3too said:
But I'm not sure that people don't still assume that you are the sex of your avatar. On the above character I mentioned, I met someone in a Flashpoint that might actually think I am female. I don't know, I just got that sense. Probably doesn't help that I jokingly /flirt and /wink at other players when I group with them, all the time.
I prefer looking at a curvy female than looking at a man the size of a small refrigerator. I am not playing a rpg to see a burly man smash orks (unless ofcourse, I am doing that sorta run, which is quite often when bored.) ladies are more mystical to me, and therefore much more interesting to play with. That being said, I also play as Muscular powermen in games like God of War, and gears of war, and tf2's Heavy and soldier, and really enjoy them. Given the choice, I go for light and nimble though. I am more for smarts anyway, and spamming the left mouse until everyone dies is getting dull after a while.
Anyway, I play as both males and females, depending on the playstyle I am going for in a run. I also try to change playstyle depending on initial character, like cautiousness and choice of weapons. If I play as a girl I tend to use smaller weapons and more tactical approaches. As a guy more reckless and bigger weapons.
I never played a MMORPG though, I'd probably be male to keep the confusion to a minimum. I don't really care what other players play as, It's probably just the confusion of males playing as ladies that is frustrating them.
Anyway, I play as both males and females, depending on the playstyle I am going for in a run. I also try to change playstyle depending on initial character, like cautiousness and choice of weapons. If I play as a girl I tend to use smaller weapons and more tactical approaches. As a guy more reckless and bigger weapons.
I never played a MMORPG though, I'd probably be male to keep the confusion to a minimum. I don't really care what other players play as, It's probably just the confusion of males playing as ladies that is frustrating them.
I play as both male and female characters, depends on the game. If I replay it a second time then I play as a different gender to see if anything changes in how ingame characters react to you. Plus the idea of a girl kicking everyones asses and saving the world is fun.
*exasperated sigh*SurfinTaxt said:
You know, a good start would be if you stopped trying to shoehorn me into your arbitrary details and presuming what my mind is or isn't shutting out. It's my mind, so don't think you know it better than I do, thank you very much.
My point is, again, that if you can't tell the difference between roleplay and posing as something you're not, and if you can't tell the difference between player and character, you have a problem to settle. My point also is that chewing out others because of your own insecurities is silly and unfair.
Roleplaying cross-gender is not the same as lying about your gender.
Being reading your posts with interest. I think some people see games as more real than they are, seeing a sexy female elf as relating to a sexy female player in real life. Though, in reality, is more likely an overweight 35 year old male. MMO's are not a place to meet a future partner, and if people do that then they need to get offline and go out into the real world.Vegosiux said: