Playstation Network: Reasons for hate?
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I use both. They are pretty much the same at this point.
Only diff I see
XBL: Slightly faster in downloads - looks more for kids: I don't want to create some stupid child looking avatar of me - I am here to play games - Better chance to run into the 12 year olds cursing up a storm - $50 a year
PSN: Free - All the old PS1 RPGs you can download makes the whole system worth it as is - Alot more mature and clean looking set up - slightly slower and more prone to issues
For me PSN>XBL because I don't bother playing online. Both are filled with obnoxious people that wouldn't have the balls to say what they do to people's faces. Both systems have a huge amount of cheating and hacking. Why in the fuck do people use things like modded controllers and the like? What is the point in playing?
Only diff I see
XBL: Slightly faster in downloads - looks more for kids: I don't want to create some stupid child looking avatar of me - I am here to play games - Better chance to run into the 12 year olds cursing up a storm - $50 a year
PSN: Free - All the old PS1 RPGs you can download makes the whole system worth it as is - Alot more mature and clean looking set up - slightly slower and more prone to issues
For me PSN>XBL because I don't bother playing online. Both are filled with obnoxious people that wouldn't have the balls to say what they do to people's faces. Both systems have a huge amount of cheating and hacking. Why in the fuck do people use things like modded controllers and the like? What is the point in playing?
After almost a year I have had zero issues with the PSN. If I want to download a movie I can play it as I stream with no issues, downloads and patches are fast and pretty much all online games I have played have been fine (EA servers are usually the ones with any isssues.)
I think people who ***** about it have DSL or maybe even dialup, with my 20mbps cable connection I never have any issues.
I think people who ***** about it have DSL or maybe even dialup, with my 20mbps cable connection I never have any issues.
Well when I had my PS3 I noticed there was a furry on PS Home....so yeah, Sony supports furries
Also PS Home
Also PS Home
I have a 360, and my month's trial has expired a few days ago. Would I pay £40 a year for it? Hell no.
I honestly prefer buying games for PS3 rather than my 360(Unless the 360 version is superior). For some reason I find the trophy system more pleasing. I mean "You got a gold trophy!" sounds so much better than "You got 50 gamer points!". Not to mention, you get a Platinum trophy for getting all trophies, rather than just a 1000/1000 on your games list. Shop is much better layed out too. Takes forever to flick through all the menu's to find older games which aren't on the page fronts on XBL. Patches are slower, mainly due to them inserting DLC in their patches so you see the DLC if someone else has got it but you haven't, you just can't use it. Online I haven't seen much difference in connection and lag, however, I rarely play online. My only problems with it is the Euopean shop is extremely lacking in PS cassic titles. I actually have to go on to the American store to buy some old games.
There is no reason.Snake Plissken said:
I had a PS3 since 2007 and from all the bullshit I heard online I thought "XBL must be amazing"
So I got an xbox 360 and from the 3 months of free gold membership I found it absolutely abysmal. Worst online gaming network I've used in years only this one had the GALL to charge as much as £40 per year, that's equal to $65 per year.
I think it is ENTIRELY down to a kind of "Investor's justification".
All these XBL users are spending $50+ per year on their service, they NEED to rationalise it as being great to ease their worries that they are wasting their money.
Many Xbox 360 games have some good ideas but the XBL ecosystem means they will always be horribly executed.
What you may call "simplicity is great" I call the exact same thing "less control is bad"Guitarmasterx7 said:
Admittedly I am a PC gamer but when you say thinks like "interface looks like an excel chart" that is what I want! I am not the person to settle for some bullshit signal-bars-equal-lag representation of latency, I want a precise number in millisecond of how much lag I'm getting.
You know what it means having "everything in one place" in terms of business economics? A walled garden. Those are bad for the consumer in the long run as they are anti-competitive and exploitative.
It's not necessarily a good thing if Microsoft controls so much of the online experience, this leaves the actual game developers marginalised and constrained. Gabe Newall - who recently defected from Pro-360 to Pro-PS3 camp - praised the PS3 for being far more open to developers, even though technically more challenging; clearly the benefits outweigh any costs.
The reason PSN might have more connection issues is because it has lower latency standards.
I would often connect on Xbox Live only the "connection" was absolutely atrocious, terrible lag and virtually no game would tell me how much lag I had, probably deliberately concealing it so as not to reveal definitively what poor value you were getting. But with P2P based multiplayer so popular on consoles inevitably some of your friends are going to have poor connections and that's inherent to the internet. It's not worth connecting if you have something 300 milliseconds of lag which causes such de-synchronisation especially considering the host always has Zero lag by default.
The only way to "code this away" is to not connect to friends by preference but by prioritise by lowest latency on your internet connection. But still my problem with my experience on 360 is even with this I'd end up in games with huge lag STILL!
If you want to play with your friends I suggest PC gaming with dedicated server model, or invite them over for LAN / Split-screen multiplayer.
Well the first reason for hate of this sort that comes to mind, is "fanboyisme".Snake Plissken said:
As yet another way of saying "My console is better than yours.".
A hype that seemingly almost everyone with internet connection and one of the consoles seem to have. I myself having the advantage of owning all the consoles, don't really get this, but that's not the point.
Another reason is well... you don't need to pay too play on-line, therefore the only income received from the PSN is that from the games, which probably cost money to make available on PSN. Result: Tighter budget for the actual network and the servers.
Maybe that the hate is therefore based on a seemingly worse connection during multi-player, though I myself don't have that problem.
I don't even know if this really is the case, but it makes sense in a way.
And some just find everything that's not American or not from Microsoft, not worth buying or using it, and think sony and their PSN are... I don't know inferior or something?
The the last thing being of course that the PSN and the XBLA are two totally different things and the interface and way the games use the PSN/XBLA is different between the two. But then again it's all up to you deciding which you like best, if one works better for you, use that.
Anyway, your right about the PSN all hate towards it probably isn't reasonable, or actually based on something. The PSN is as well as the XBLA are both adequate ways to play and buy games and game related products.
The difference being the free playing on PSN.
I don't hate the PSN service. I just don't like it as much. The interface and it's various systems are often kludgy, the service has been unavialable for a variety of reasons significantly more often than XBL, and the service simply has less to offer. The reason I don't hate the service is precisely because it is free which means I'm perfectly willing to accept a less robust system when a game interests me on the PS3. Were they to charge a similar price as XBL, I would expect both the quality of service and the quality of the experience to increase accordingly.somelameshite said:
