Please don't criticize games for being similar to previous games.

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itsmeyouidiot

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Like, seriously.

I'm tired of people always making the same bullshit complaint that a game sucks because it's a "rehash," or whatever.

To my ears, this complaint always sounds the same: "This game has similarities to a previous game, and therefore is devoid of any and all redeeming qualities whatsoever!"

I honestly believe that the demand for constant "innovation" is killing gaming.

Because of it, people are showing hatred for games that deserve nothing but love. Certain genres are now all but extinct because people abandoned them. 3D platformers have been nearly nonexistent since the N64/PS1 era, and turn-based RPG games have been eschewed in favor of action and strategy RPGs, which are so fundamentally different that I honestly don't think they should be called RPGs at all.

So what if Modern Warfare 3 is the same as the other 2? That doesn't make it any less fun, does it? So what if the new Assassin's Creed adds nothing new to the core gameplay aside from minor tweaks? Shouldn't the fact that you're playing a different set of levels than before make it an entirely new experience? And now people are saying that Skyward Sword is a bad game because it's so similar to the previous games, which is odd because, last time I checked, Ocarina of Time was the most highly-praised game of all time. Seriously, people are saying that Zelda is a bad game? What the hell is this world coming to?
 

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Is the whole "rehash" thing the new buzz topic now? It seems everyone is defending sequels and such all of a sudden. Kind of strange. We've been complaining about these things for YEARS and people are just now getting mad about it.
 

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itsmeyouidiot said:
I honestly believe that the demand for constant "innovation" is killing gaming.
I don't really have an issue with sequels or formulas at all, but this is a really bizarre argument.
 

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BloatedGuppy said:
itsmeyouidiot said:
I honestly believe that the demand for constant "innovation" is killing gaming.
I don't really have an issue with sequels or formulas at all, but this is a really bizarre argument.
Yes, I do believe that we should have stopped innovating portable storage devices once we had developed the floppydisk. Not going to get much better than the floppydisk!
 

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There's a difference between similar and stagnation. Some games shouldn't be changed in sequels, this applies to competitive games mostly (League of Legends, Quake, StarCraft etc...). For other games I feel that adding some sort of new mechanics or adding extra polish and tweaks is very necessary.
 

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The sameyness of Modern Warfare is bad?

MADDEN.

NHL.

NBA.

ALL GAME SERIES THAT ARE THE SAME GAME YEAR AFTER YEAR.

I'm not arguing that MW isn't getting stale (which it is, don't get me wrong), but Jesus, a lot of games seem to be getting a damn free ride.
 

TehCookie

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Games should be similar to previous ones, but they should also tread new territory. The problem with people crying for innovation is they don't want to take baby steps. Take a working formula and tweak it a little bit so it's not the same as the previous but still keeps the good qualities. To a person who's not interested in the series, they probably won't notice or care and yell rehash. The thing is it is different, if only slightly.

I love the Disgaea series, and between each one they make a few minor improvements, however while 1 and 2 are similar 1 and 4 are not. They kept the basic mechanics and expanded them, but it was just a little at the time. If you only liked the series, you don't have to get them all, once it seems like they added and/or fixed enough content buy the next one. CoD may only include minor differences in each installment but go play the first one from this gen and the latest one. Honestly I haven't played any but I'm guessing there is a bigger difference than what most people would like to admit.
 

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believer258 said:
Even if I start adding different things to that pizza, like pepperonis one day and pineapple the next, it will still eventually start to be disgusting.
It was disgusting once you added the pineapple. Seriously pineapple on pizza?

Everything happens for a reason, except pineapple on pizza, that shit's disgusting.


But regarding innovation it's what the public wants and there isn't that big a demand for 3-d platformers at the minute
 

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To me a sequel should add more depth, and improve on the weaknesses of the original entry, not completely change everything.

So I agree, I don't agree that Innovation is killing the games industry though, not one bit.
 

geK0

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Football has been the same for years and the superbowl has been rehashed over 40 times!!!!! football isn't good anymore!
 

Zhukov

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itsmeyouidiot said:
I honestly believe that the demand for constant "innovation" is killing gaming.
Seriously?

Eh, if you say so. Add it to the list.

Clearly we should be demanding stagnation.
 

spartandude

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the reason i use it to criticise (if i have the previous game) is with my limited money i'm not going to buy a new game when its the same to one i already own
 

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itsmeyouidiot said:
I honestly believe that the demand for constant "innovation" is killing gaming.
Why should we stop demanding innovation? That makes no sense. Sure we shouldn't dismiss "generic" games that are good just for being "generic," but how are we ever going to get more Half-Lifes, Portals, Shadow of Colossus', and Bioshocks if we don't keep reminding developers we're up for trying something different?

I agree that saying a game is similar to another game is a pretty weak criticism on its own, but to stop demanding innovation? That's just ludicrous. There is still so much more games can do, areas we've barely scratched the surface of, given we've even been there before at all. Sure we should work to perfect what's been done, but once we run out of the things that have been done, what's left?
 

Digitaldreamer7

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So since your other thread was dying you created another? Anyways, as others have pointed out here, you have no idea why the terms are used. A sequel does not = rehash or "similar to other games" Same genere games do not = rehash or "similar to other games"
 

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realist1990 said:
believer258 said:
Even if I start adding different things to that pizza, like pepperonis one day and pineapple the next, it will still eventually start to be disgusting.
It was disgusting once you added the pineapple. Seriously pineapple on pizza?

Everything happens for a reason, except pineapple on pizza, that shit's disgusting.


But regarding innovation it's what the public wants and there isn't that big a demand for 3-d platformers at the minute

This seems appropriate.

OT: If games don't change there is no point in buying the new version. It will truly become a world of "Generic Shooter 126" and "Interchangeable RPG 319."
 

Razor Z7

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Sequels are supposed to have more features and changes. Thats how the industry works.