Please don't f*ck this up! (witcher 3 rant)

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Lokis Maliki

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I stumbled across this today:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TZ_G6XiHoUA&oref=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DTZ_G6XiHoUA&has_verified=1

It is not the first time I have seen a trailer for this game, but for the first time, I actually felt afraid. Witcher 1 and 2 were amazing, immersive experiences. Still, this time, instead of feeling great that I game I love is getting a sequel, I feel a bit queasy.

I am one of the people who bought Aliens: Colonial Marines as a pre-purchase. That isn't the latest time I have been burned and it wasn't the first.

I am also one of the people who feel personally that too many games have been made not to continue, expand upon or improve the series, but because it would sell.

As silly as it sounds, I am genuinely worried.

However, I hope they nail this!!! It would be amazing!!

Only thing better would be a new S.T.A.L.K.E.R. game.
 

Maximum Bert

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Looks good to me I didnt much care for the Witcher 1 I found it kind of boring to be honest I really wanted to play the second one though but unfortunately my PC isnt powerful enough and my 360 has died.

What are you worried about from that trailer? I am just going to wait and hope for the best the games not coming out for ages anyway nothing to worry about yet.
 

The Madman

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So far all the previews for Witcher 3 have been absolutely glowing, the game picked up dozens of 'best of' awards and from what many articles tell, the in-game demo CD Projekt have been showing off at events is amazing. Meanwhile we've heard nothing to indicate any sort of troubled development or recent changes, so all looks well.

Still if you're truly worried the only thing to do is sit and wait till it's released. I'd say there's a good chance of Witcher 3 living up to expectations, but as with any game that promises a lot (And Witcher 3 is making a lot of promises) there's always the risk the devs will fall short.
 

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I'm somewhat apprehensive. After all, last year wasn't a great year for me and sequels. Still, I can't help but trust that CD Projekt RED is going to deliver a compelling experience. Then again, I trusted Irrational and...yeah.

Basically, I'm hoping for the best and am surprisingly optimistic about it regardless of the circumstances. We'll see how good it is when it releases.
 

Lokis Maliki

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Probably caused some confusion in writing this. I don't expect Witcher 3 to be bad and I really hope that it is good. I am sad that my reaction to hearing about games is not longer just excitement. That excitement has been laced with a dose of fear and dread. I find it depressing that I have been burned so many times that this is now a reality.
 

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A trailer is a trailer, and a development team with the track record that CD Projekt RED has is going to do fine, I'm sure.
Also, didn't the Witcher 3 just get delayed for a few months to a year a while back? (I might be thinking of something else) If I'm thinking of the right game, that can only be good. Delays are generally great.
 

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Lokis Maliki said:
It is not the first time I have seen a trailer for this game, but for the first time, I actually felt afraid. Witcher 1 and 2 were amazing, immersive experiences. Still, this time, instead of feeling great that I game I love is getting a sequel, I feel a bit queasy.

As silly as it sounds, I am genuinely worried.
i've got to ask, what is it about that trailer that made you worried? i understand if you are anxious due to lazy/bad sequels from other companies recently, but why after watching this did it specifically make you afraid?

sorry it's just i've re-read your post and i'm fairly certain you don't actually say.

OT: trailer looks good, and with the amount of time they have to work on it, i'm pretty confident it's gonna be good. the only bad thing i can say CD Projekt RED is that they have a habit of making games unplayable with lower PC specs, but generally the games end up being worth the upgrade xD

Radeonx said:
A trailer is a trailer, and a development team with the track record that CD Projekt RED has is going to do fine, I'm sure.
Also, didn't the Witcher 3 just get delayed for a few months to a year a while back? (I might be thinking of something else) If I'm thinking of the right game, that can only be good. Delays are generally great.
it was the witcher, they released a pretty open statement about it a couple of weeks back. it sounded genuinely like they didn't want anything to go wrong and wanted more time to make it perfect, rather than just great.
 

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suitepee7 said:
Radeonx said:
A trailer is a trailer, and a development team with the track record that CD Projekt RED has is going to do fine, I'm sure.
Also, didn't the Witcher 3 just get delayed for a few months to a year a while back? (I might be thinking of something else) If I'm thinking of the right game, that can only be good. Delays are generally great.
it was the witcher, they released a pretty open statement about it a couple of weeks back. it sounded genuinely like they didn't want anything to go wrong and wanted more time to make it perfect, rather than just great.
Ah, yeah. Then I don't see anything to worry about. We were guaranteed a solid RPG experience from the get-go, and the delays only helps ensure that we will get a very polished game with all the small details perfected.
 

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Akichi Daikashima said:
It's CDProjekt.

It will turn out good: those guys know what they are doing.
I thought the same thing about Bioware *coughs*.

I'm a bit sceptical about The Witcher 3 too. The project seems just too big for one team to handle, but if it works out I'm all the happier. I just fear that it might turn into some bland experience like Skyrim, where the world is huge but mostly empty and boring.
Oh well, I'll stay carefully optimistic and just hope they didn't completely overburden themselves.
 

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I'd like to preface my statement here by aknowledgning right off the bat that I am a huge CDPR Fanboy.

TL;DR: It might not become the perfect experience we're hoping for, but I'm sure it will be good.

I'm not really worried about Witcher 3, a lot of things have convinced me that I can trust CDPR to *at least* provide a quality experience that is well worth playing. The worst case scenario I can see is that the game will be Good, while still falling a bit short.

Basically the only "mistakes" I can remember this developer making is being overly ambitious, and to paraphrase Yahtzee, a game that fails due to overambition is 1000 times better than a game that fails because it's designed "safe".

The thing that convinces me that I don't need to worry is that the devs delayed launch by several months to have it finished before release. It's become almost the accepted standard these days to release unfinished products, with enormous patches days/weeks after release.
 

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raeior said:
Akichi Daikashima said:
It's CDProjekt.

It will turn out good: those guys know what they are doing.
I thought the same thing about Bioware *coughs*.

I'm a bit sceptical about The Witcher 3 too. The project seems just too big for one team to handle, but if it works out I'm all the happier. I just fear that it might turn into some bland experience like Skyrim, where the world is huge but mostly empty and boring.
Oh well, I'll stay carefully optimistic and just hope they didn't completely overburden themselves.
You shouldn't and here is why. Bioware bowed their heads and took it up the bum by EA by getting bought out. Queue in DLC bonanza and releasing games that are far from finished and with cut content. They haven't been the same since that.

Meanwhile, CDPR have kept their independence and will remain so until the end. They have even said that they are not interested into getting bought out in an article some while ago.

They are the only company that I have a deep respect for. Not only they care about their fans/customers, their policy are simply fantastic and they are keeping to their roots as a primarily a PC developer that develops their games on a PC as their lead platform.

The Witcher series have shown that they can improve from one title from another. Just look at the differences between Witcher 1 and Witcher 2..it's simply mind boggling. I think they can do the same from W2 and W3.
 

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raeior said:
Akichi Daikashima said:
It's CDProjekt.

It will turn out good: those guys know what they are doing.
I thought the same thing about Bioware *coughs*.

I'm a bit sceptical about The Witcher 3 too. The project seems just too big for one team to handle, but if it works out I'm all the happier. I just fear that it might turn into some bland experience like Skyrim, where the world is huge but mostly empty and boring.
Oh well, I'll stay carefully optimistic and just hope they didn't completely overburden themselves.
The difference is that EA doesn't own CD Projekt RED.
 

Vault101

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well 3 always seems to be a cursed number as far as these things go....of coarse if one steps back and examines the reasons....

I haven't even started witcher 2..I dont know if I ever will

MysticSlayer said:
Then again, I trusted Irrational and...yeah.
"and yeah" isn't really much of an explanation when your talking about a game plenty of people liked
 

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Cd Projekt isn't known for screwing over their consumers. I highly doubt, even if it turns out they aren't able to fulfill all their promises, the end result will still be a solid finished game. No where near the disaster A:CM was. I also have faith they'll move the story in a meaningful direction as I think they've said somewhere this was going to be the last Witcher game (barring maybe a remake of the first or something).

Even if they do manage to mess up and the game gets released in bad shape, they'll patch it later, add in extra goodies and distribute it free of charge to all those who purchased the first run.
 

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Vault101 said:
MysticSlayer said:
Then again, I trusted Irrational and...yeah.
"and yeah" isn't really much of an explanation when your talking about a game plenty of people liked
And a game many people were disappointed by, with me being one of them. But I've ranted enough about Infinite elsewhere and have mostly grown tired of it, and this thread really isn't the place to criticize it. I was really just expressing that no matter how much I trust a developer, I always keep in mind that they may make a game that I, personally, don't enjoy, even if it isn't unplayable.
 

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The only thing that really concerns me is their "Multi Region Open World" and how that could affect the game. One of the things I love about The Witcher series is how localized it is. Everything in the games takes place in these small areas, but that in turn allows those regions to be extremely detailed. You get an idea for the size of Vizima in the first game, or how even a dinky town like Flotsam is still bustling even on the edge of a giant forest.

With the large open World, I'm worried that The Witcher 3 will be like Skyrim, where the Capital city has maybe twenty people wandering the streets tops.
 

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Soviet Heavy said:
The only thing that really concerns me is their "Multi Region Open World" and how that could affect the game. One of the things I love about The Witcher series is how localized it is. Everything in the games takes place in these small areas, but that in turn allows those regions to be extremely detailed. You get an idea for the size of Vizima in the first game, or how even a dinky town like Flotsam is still bustling even on the edge of a giant forest.

With the large open World, I'm worried that The Witcher 3 will be like Skyrim, where the Capital city has maybe twenty people wandering the streets tops.
Yep, that's my primary concern as well. However, from what I can tell, Witcher 3 will take place in the Skellige Isles, which are small, celtic-inspired islands (and so, have no metropolis areas anyway) and the kingdom of Cidaris, which will have been so weakened and wrecked from war, it'd make some kind of sense for there not to be large bustling populations. Still, the scale is what I'm concerned about. As you said, Vizima felt massive. The lake felt massive. In comparison, the lake surrounding the Imperial City in Oblivion feels quite small.

In Witcher 2, the opening siege feels huge, you really feel like you're one in thousands fighting (though of course, there are only dozens on screen at once), there are siege engines going off, the castle is huge, you hear fighting all around. It feels like a full-scale, major battle. The siege of Whiterun in Skyrim felt like a small skirmish, or one of those endgame boredom moments where you run around killing everyone.

I am very curious to see how CD Projekt RED pulls off an open-world. I remember reading that they're inspired by the Gothic RPG's here. If that is true, we may not have anything to worry about at all.
 

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MysticSlayer said:
Vault101 said:
MysticSlayer said:
Then again, I trusted Irrational and...yeah.
"and yeah" isn't really much of an explanation when your talking about a game plenty of people liked
And a game many people were disappointed by, with me being one of them. But I've ranted enough about Infinite elsewhere and have mostly grown tired of it, and this thread really isn't the place to criticize it. I was really just expressing that no matter how much I trust a developer, I always keep in mind that they may make a game that I, personally, don't enjoy, even if it isn't unplayable.
But it's not an "alien colonial marines" were you to say that about that game everyone knows what your talking about

Like I don't particularly like skyrim but I won't just assume everyone else hated it, I'll at least give an explanation. even if it's as short as "I got bored after 1 hour"

yes....I am nitpicking....it just really annoys me for some reason