Plot devices that ruin any movie
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The twins that switch places, of course the movie is already ruined if they started it like that.
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Not a plot device but something I hate immensely.
Two warring/opposed factions. One side wins and both sides cheer and an applaud!
What the fuck? American films are worst for this I've found.
Best example, end of Harold and Kumar Escape Guantanamo Bay:
Granted it's a stupid, stoner comedy but give us a little respect. I know we're watching a comedy aimed at the lowest possible denominator but we deserve a little more respect.
I'm just sick of it. I can barely watch movies anymore.
Two warring/opposed factions. One side wins and both sides cheer and an applaud!
What the fuck? American films are worst for this I've found.
Best example, end of Harold and Kumar Escape Guantanamo Bay:
Kumar gets the girl back and Harold knee's the upstart in the stomach at their wedding. Why do his family cheer? They don't know the whole story.
Granted it's a stupid, stoner comedy but give us a little respect. I know we're watching a comedy aimed at the lowest possible denominator but we deserve a little more respect.
I'm just sick of it. I can barely watch movies anymore.
The unbreakable windows which are apparently so unbreakable that in horror films, people don't even think about breaking them to escape from the mad psycho in horror films. The same applies to doors. Seriously, you're being chased, so what do you do?
Run up the stairs. Then what? Die.
When that happens, I just give up and root for the mad psycho.
Run up the stairs. Then what? Die.
When that happens, I just give up and root for the mad psycho.
Only one man left after a battle, Deus Ex Machinas out of nowhere, bombs that are disarmed one second before they blow up, stupid enemies, common people figuring stuff out that the government couldn't by themselves, the list goes on.
Edit: The USA save the day. Cause there's no other countries in the world, right? I'd like to see Russia or China or Canada save the day in a movie for once.
Edit: The USA save the day. Cause there's no other countries in the world, right? I'd like to see Russia or China or Canada save the day in a movie for once.
Space magic that was then explained with green rocks. Ah well, it's best to pretend the Jedi Council then had no idea what it was doing.StBishop said:
BiscuitTrouser said:
Made his wife think she was insane by sabotaging her dreams.
Was a weapons dealer. He made weapons. For killing.
Killed criminals indiscriminately and uncaringly. With a big-ass fucking .44
Was researching sustainable, clean energy.
Was abused as a child and left by his callous wife (may be one, may be both, may be neither) and became mentally unhinged and demented.
Match the title of 'Hero' and 'Villain' to each. Go on. Casting aside any knowledge of the plots of their respective films, try and categorise them into good or evil.
Not easy, is it? Each and every one of those characters is from a 'big, Hollywood movie' and yet in the hands of a good writer, a better director and a fantastic actor, the characters can become real people.
When the main character is badass, but refuses to kill.
Or
When the good guys ALWAYS win.
Or
When it is a movie where the main character is a bad guy he always has to be the good bad guy who only steals because he is starving or something...
If those things didn't happen in a movie it would be pretty original.
Or
When the good guys ALWAYS win.
Or
When it is a movie where the main character is a bad guy he always has to be the good bad guy who only steals because he is starving or something...
If those things didn't happen in a movie it would be pretty original.
The guy that was supposed to be dead, turns up in last minute and saves the day.
if someone with a lot of textlines and at least a minumum badassery dies in the middle of the film , you can be 88% sure he will be back at the end.
if someone with a lot of textlines and at least a minumum badassery dies in the middle of the film , you can be 88% sure he will be back at the end.
Ruining the plot by refusing to kill a character because it wouldn't be politically correct (Man on Fire I am looking at You here), refusing to axe women, children, religious figures and good guys just because it might offend some people is a total cope out.
Second on my list; dancing around religion, I would respectfully submit that trying to make a movie based on Philip Pullmans 'His Dark Materials' whilst desperately trying to minimise any religious aspect is the worst kind of compromise.
Second on my list; dancing around religion, I would respectfully submit that trying to make a movie based on Philip Pullmans 'His Dark Materials' whilst desperately trying to minimise any religious aspect is the worst kind of compromise.
When, no matter how dire the situation, even the most insignificant characters live just to supply the most "happy ending" possible.
Birth defects or anomalies that manifest to save the hero. "Her heart is on the other side", "He's got asthma, so the poison didn't get in" etc.
Birth defects or anomalies that manifest to save the hero. "Her heart is on the other side", "He's got asthma, so the poison didn't get in" etc.
I always think of Avatar when I'm talking about plot conventions that ruined a movie. Now, I don't think the movie was bad (at least, not horrible), but when the primary theme of the movie is that the self-righteous slaughtering of indigenous people for resources is wrong, the underdogs winning the day back in a spectacular reversal does little to drive to point home. The sudden comeback just struck me as so token and inappropriate that it ruined the plot for me entirely.
In fact, the "obviously inept or underpowered faction beats the ridiculously over-powered antagonistic faction without particular sacrifice" feels terribly cliche and uninteresting to me. Especially when that victory is attributed to the "can-do" attitude of the protagonist(s) (or their gritty badass-ness), the power of love, or, the worst of the bunch, the power of "friendship." The latter two are total horse shit that have no place in action movies.
In fact, the "obviously inept or underpowered faction beats the ridiculously over-powered antagonistic faction without particular sacrifice" feels terribly cliche and uninteresting to me. Especially when that victory is attributed to the "can-do" attitude of the protagonist(s) (or their gritty badass-ness), the power of love, or, the worst of the bunch, the power of "friendship." The latter two are total horse shit that have no place in action movies.
Speaking of, a pox on kid's shows that employ the same malarky. They're kids, that doesn't mean they can't appreciate an appropriate message, and it certainly doesn't mean they can't appreciate violence without a message.