Points you can't argue against?

[Gmano]

The Holocaust was terrible.

This is a much harder one....

How bout the fact that it rallied the allied nations together?
Reversed much of the antisemitism in other parts of the world?
Or that it resulted in the creation of Israel? the first country where jews could be at home.
Or that it resulted in many human rights laws/reforms and stricter enforcement, preventing anything like this from happening in the future? (face it, if it hadn't happened then, something like it would happen eventually).

In fact, he sounds like a GREAT guy.

Maybe, but at least you know he was not attempting to be a bad man, for the sole purpose of being evil.

 

[Carboncrown]

Evil is a real phenomenon and not just a characterization of the mind.

Free will is not an illusion.

Although I did meet a person on here who argued against the latter point, and his points were well thought out. I enjoyed debating him even though, as I told him, I found his premise ridiculous.

I'm honestly curious, how exactly is evil a real phenomenon, when it can be only measured by arbitrary scales.

And there is absolutely no proof that free will exists.

In order to sustain life you have to continue to breathe, you won't get much farther if you stop.

Unless you drill holes to your lungs!

 

[Lord_Duke]

Rape is bad.

Not for the rapist, Point invalid

It is as they go to prison.

I suppose that PC is more customisable than consoles and a converse to it Consoles are much easier to set up & get going than PCs are.

The point was that rape was bad, Not that the consequences of rape are bad, so in fact that is invalid, Quite a discussion about rape here, Moral dilemma

 

[Danny Ocean]

Rape is bad.

Not for the rapist, Point invalid

It is as they go to prison.

Unless they like prison.

Granted they are all theories but you have to have evidence to start a theory, i think

There, this. Science does not prove anything happens, it gives reasons as to WHY.

You're both saying different things. He's saying there's no evidence for theories, you're saying that those theories don't prove anything.

Uhm. Surely something has to happen to have a reason why it happened? Ergo, the existence of a reason for an event is evidence for the existence of the event?

Or is that a logical fallacy?

the big bang THEORY simply states that it is LIKELY that there a big bang that created/dispersed the matter in the universe

No, there is no ambiguity within the theory, the entire theory itself falls under the categorisation of likely/unlikely.

And science can prove things, can't it? It's proven the existence of radiation beyond the visible spectrum, for example. It's proven the existence of black holes.

 

[Pimppeter2]

Godzilla is awesome

 

[Gmano]

Sure. But, it was still terrible. So the argument is null and void.

But good came out of it... IMO something is only terrible if no good comes out of it...

It was a bleak time, and without a time machine we will never know how the would would have turned out had it never happened, so the point cannot be won.

 

[Canid117]

Rape is bad.

Not for the rapist, Point invalid

But what about after he gets caught and is made someones ***** in prison?

 

[Anchupom]

Everyone taking part in this discussion is using the internet, even if it's indirectly?

 

[Anchupom]

Rape is bad.

Not for the rapist, Point invalid

But what about after he gets caught and is made someones ***** in prison?

And so the cycle begins again... Person who he's a ***** fo is enjoying it.

 

[Supreme Unleaded]

The fact that we are the product of ~3.5-4 billion years of evolution.

What if your religos and beleive in one devine being that created humanity.

Well, you would have no facts and no evidence for your argument, and so you would not be able to argue for your point.

EDIT: Sure is philosophy in here... xP

While i agree with you that Evolution created man the argument still stands, we can't just say god doesnt exist because we have no facts for or against it, face it, we're both right and wrong.

 

[The DSM]

Every single point I make.

As they are all 100% true.

 

[lacktheknack]

You cannot disprove God.

Or evolution.

Or existentialism.

Or my mother.

 

[lacktheknack]

Every single point I make.

As they are all 100% true.

Unless that was your first incorrect one, in which case it proved itself incorrect, so therefore it is untrue, so therefore it MUST be true, and your stupid paradox exploded the multiverse.

 

[Danny Ocean]

While i agree with you that Evolution created man the argument still stands, we can't just say god doesnt exist because we have no facts for or against it, face it, we're both right and wrong.

I think I read somewhere that the burden of explanation lies with the person trying to prove, not disprove. Or something along those lines.

Ah, here we go, Wiki [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burden_of_proof] prevails.

The burden of proof is often associated with the Latin maxim semper necessitas probandi incumbit ei qui agit, the best translation of which seems to be: "the necessity of proof always lies with the person who lays charges."

So the person saying something does exist or did happen, is the one who has to prove it. They need to have evidence to prove it. If there is no evidence, they have no argument. Even if the other person has no evidence against it.

And besides, Evolution is no proof for or against God. Evolution is a Science, God is a Mythology. The two are unrelated.

 

[Pegghead]

Hitler wasn't very nice!

And Fred isn't funny!

 

[Teddy Roosevelt]

-snip-

Yes, I do know that was bullcrap, thank you.

Also, it's still an argument, retarded or not

Well, it is an argument, but not a valid one, and thus is not a truly arguable point, as in reality when we mean to argue something we mean to do so effectively. If you are arguing a point, you should be able to do so with some facts or truth behind you, otherwise, you are only being an idiot.

Sorry about that by the way, AP Bio has ruined me.

 

[p3t3r]

You can argue against this point.

*watches your head explode*

[HEADING=1]I WIN![/HEADING]

well after you read this post you wont win the... game ha you lose

 

[Cherry Cola]

You can argue against this point.

*watches your head explode*

[HEADING=1]I WIN![/HEADING]

well after you read this post you wont win the... game ha you lose

I don't play the game. I play cucumber.

Now you lost! HA!

 

[TheNamlessGuy]

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