Someone learns a product isn't catered exclusively to them, suddenly the company should be up for war crimes. This has been the song and dance for a depressingly long timeYoshi178 said:
Pokemon Let's Go....Away
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All that is well and good. However in Let's Go, they've included Pokemon Go mechanics almost copy paste. Why not make thing's more streamlined? You have to catch pokemon to grind up, but then you also have to send every extra Pokemon to the Professor one by one. Meaning if you are shiny hunting and end up catching 100+ Caterpie's then you have to then go through your menu for all them Pokemon one by one and toggle through all of them. If catching was the main mechanic, why not offer the play the choice of "keep it" or "send it" after catching one. That why they don't fill their box up with trash when they are just grinding or shiny hunting? It keeps people in the game and out of the menu.cathou said:
Let's Go isn't bad in an of itself. However it highlights just how poorly designed imo the Go game actually is. So you have this terrible contrast of Great Trainer battles, beautiful world, wonderful remake, all clashing with a terrible core mechanic.
Hell they could have just as easily made the Pokemon Go mechanic togglable. Allowing the player to battle the pokemon instead which would have made everyone happy. It solves the problem for core players, it solves the problem for people who have poor motion control capability (such as disabled players), while still allowing those people familiar only with Pokemon Go a cross over point.
Again you post nonsense, why? Read what you said right there. "i never said Pokemon Let's GO wasn't targeted towards a Gen 1 Pokemon fan. it is. you obviously just aren't the same type of Gen 1 fan that the game is being targeted towards." Are you seriously going to pull that kind of trash comment? I'm not the "right" type of Gen 1 fan for a Gen 1 remake? That doesn't make any fucking sense.Yoshi178 said:
You say Let's Go is being targeted towards kids? Okay but so were the original games, so why make the mechanic change when the original games started a world wide mega franchise?
You then say it's targeted towards older fans who've not played a Pokemon game in a while. Okay, but they were fans of the original games so why make the mechanic change? You run the risk of them coming to a remark expecting to have the experience they remember from when they were younger and they wont get that experience.
You say it's not for competitive players? Then why are the IV's still a thing in Let's Go? Why can you catch "perfect" versions of the Pokemon if they didn't want competitive players to be interested.
You say it's not for people who want a traditional Pokemon Campaign? Then why is there a TRADITIONAL Pokemon campaign in the game?
Nothing you have said has made any sense in the context of this discussion.
I don't think the game is all that bad, but I do agree that the Pokemon Go mechanic of only being able to catch wild Pokemon instead of battling them is stupid. It's esp. annoying when the motion controls fuck up and I don't throw the ball the way I want to.
Note: since you can now link Pokemon Go to Google Fit, it also tracks miles run on a treadmill (I assume your phone needs a gyro, otherwise I don't know how that would work). It seems more forgiving that Pokemon's extremely low allowable movement speed that assumes everyone is hopping backward through hedges over broken glass.
I am giving birth to hundreds of little monsters.
I am giving birth to hundreds of little monsters.
So is it safe to assume leveling up pokemon is the pokecandies instead of getting exoeriance points? Because sometimes you need to do the level grind and it can be a bit zen sometimes.
Nope you gotta catch pokemon to get exp or battle trainers to get exp. You also have a built in EXP.Share. It can be tedious leveling up.saint of m said:
The candies are for stat increases.
Actually this game is pretty terrible for Competitive, what with the Candies and shit.Commanderfantasy said:
Iv's is not for competitive. Iv's are there so that the same pokemon would have different stats. So that every pokemon is unique. Same with natures. Competitive players then use that to their advantage and strive to get perfect iv's.
If they actually wanted to make a balanced, competitive game, they would remove IV's altogether and solely keep natures. IV's put an added unnecessary step for people who want to be competitive because having perfect 31s ( IVs) across the board is pretty much an obligation.
Hell i'd Argue that EVs are for competitive.
P.S. I agree with Yoshi. I think peoplr give him too much flack or are misunderstanding his points.
Do you think they would ever be so bold to remove IVs? I kind of wish they would get more wild with Pokemon. I played blue back on the gameboy then went to sun on the 2DS and they felt so alike.Lufia Erim said:
So they simultaneously made it more complicated and difficult? Um, I know I stopped after Silver and Gold, but the battle and catch format hasn't changed that terribly much, has it from Red and Blue to Black and White, or whatever they are on now?
I doubt it because, and this is solely my opinion, i don't think Gamefreak makes Pokemon with hardcore competitive in mind. The entire point of IVs is to have a fluctuation in pokemon stats so that every pokemon feels different. You can catch 100 random pikachus and level each of them to 100 and they will all have different stats Based on Ivs , EVs and nature. I believe that's way gamefreak was intending.nomotog said:
No it's simpler, just more tedious in my opinion. That being said, in my opinion, this is a terrible pokemon to play competitively. Actually i think the internet ruined competitive pokemon but That's a topic for another time.saint of m said:
If you only want to play the story, fill your pokedex, it's actually quite a fun game.
But does it even matter? I know I probably won't ever catch more than 1. And 1 pikachu being suckier than another doesn't really make them unique in an interesting way, or even in a way that most players will notice.Lufia Erim said:
People notice when you tell them. When I first played I went out and cught several sand shrews because someone told me every Pokemon has different stats. (I didn't know the full story with IVs and all.) I think diverse stats plays a role. It encourages trading and breeding when every Pokemon is different. Why would you breed a Pokemon if all of them were the same? Though Like Lufia Erim said you can do this better with systems like natures.Drathnoxis said:
Disclaimer, the last pokemon i played competitively was Diamond/Pearl.nomotog said:
The benefit of breeding is Threefold.
a) Characteristics are transferred from the male pokemon. The charcteristic tells you your highest IV stat ( Ex: "Likes to trash about" is 30/31 IV in attack)
b)The nature is transfered from the Female pokemon. The nature increases 1 stat by 10% and decreases another stat by 10% ( ex: Jolly is +10%speed/-10% sp attack)
c) Egg moves. Egg moves are moves transfered from either pokemon doing the breeding to the newly hatched pokemon.
I really think the randomised stats ( IVs) are not longer interesting due to the internet and state of competitive pokemon, as anyone who wants to play seriously, need to have 31s across the board. I think it's an archaic system that needs to go away.
EVs and Natures should stay and be the strategic part of pokemon as far as team building.
They did matter before Pokemon became widespread on the internet, when people use to pokemon battle with the friends face to face. Because people use to compare pokemon and their stats. And trade/build pokemon based on these. This was before the knowledge of EV,IVs and nature became widespread. Because they sure as hell aren't ( weren't?) in the game manual.Drathnoxis said:
Now everyone knows ( as they should, why wasn't this in the game manual?) and are at a severe disadvantage i you want to play against other people and are unaware of these "secret" Stat modifiers.
I'm willing to bet that the reason they haven't done away with it yet is for the kids who play pokemon with their friends to keep that sense of " Oh cool you're pikachu has such high sp. atk wanna trade?" Feeling we had when we started playing 20 years ago.
But that last part is just speculation on my part.