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Ghengis John said:
Ah so you think that it's okay to be a dick because there are people in the world who just don't deserve your niceness. Gotcha.
nah, he's just saying people die all the time and it's really not a big deal. Being upset about the death of someone you don't even know sounds pointless, you'd be feeling sad 24/7 and still couldn't keep up.
 

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SaneAmongInsane said:
What like making jokes about the japan flood?

Too Soon-ami?
Yes. It is still too soon, mon ami. Wait a few years.
fare777 said:
I guess you could say that the ovarian cancer was...

-puts on sunglasses-

Super effective!

YEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHH!
Wow. I lol'ed so I won't report you but Christ that's insensitive.
 

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Moriarty said:
Ghengis John said:
Ah so you think that it's okay to be a dick because there are people in the world who just don't deserve your niceness. Gotcha.
nah, he's just saying people die all the time and it's really not a big deal. Being upset about the death of someone you don't even know sounds pointless, you'd be feeling sad 24/7 and still couldn't keep up.
Who said anything about being upset? I'm asking why you have to be a dick, whether you know somebody or not. I'm not asking him why he doesn't cry and I'm not asking him why he doesn't go found a cancer research charity. I'm asking him why his kindness is apparently so hard to come by that it's necessary to ration it.
 

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fare777 said:
I guess you could say that the ovarian cancer was...

-puts on sunglasses-

Super effective!

YEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHH!
I laughed. Then again, I made a joke about Michael Jackson the second I heard he died. Yeah, not big on holding anything sacred. Sure, death's supposed to be depressing, but it's hard to do that when you think about how people die every day. We all end up worm buffet, people, get over it.
 

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Ghengis John said:
Who said anything about being upset? I'm asking why you have to be a dick, whether you know somebody or not. I'm not asking him why he doesn't cry and I'm not asking him why he doesn't go found a cancer research charity. I'm asking him why his kindness is apparently so hard to come by that it's necessary to ration it.
Yeah but why is he a dick because of a joke? The person at whose expense the joke was originally done certainly doesn't mind now, so he basically brightened the mood of some people and worsened the mood of other people. Sounds like a fair tradeoff to me.


This sort of thing always happens online after all, the news of someone being dead always inplies a sad atmosphere, but most people aren't going to be sad so it creates the perfect setup for morbid jokes.
 

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Wow that's terrible, my little kid self just cried.
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fare777 you're going to hell and I'll be joining you beacuse that was the evilest hillarious thing I've ever read.
I know I will be joining you because I laughed and groaned at the same time. ROAD TRIP!!
 

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I may be a pokemon fan, but I stopped watching the series halfway into Johto. Loss of life is sad, but Im sure I wont notice a different voice actress.
 

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arc1991 said:
Tomoko Kawakami, the Voice actor of Dawn's Buneary, the Sinnoh Pokedex and some other Pokemon and Characters has passed away due to Ovarian Cancer. Sad news =\

The article came from Bulbapedia, and can be seen here http://bulbanews.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Dawn%27s_Buneary_voice_actress_passes_away

Not the biggest article in the world, but it's where i found the news, sure she wasn't a majour part of the anime (like the voice actor for Pikachu or Ash, or any other main Chatacter), but for the fans of the show (like me) it is quite upsetting =\

Also on that link, there is another link to show everything she has done non-Pokemon related.

Your thoughts guys?
Wasn't she the one who did the voice of pikachu? A la http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vidMsubS3DE ?
 

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Ghengis John said:
Moriarty said:
Ghengis John said:
Ah so you think that it's okay to be a dick because there are people in the world who just don't deserve your niceness. Gotcha.
nah, he's just saying people die all the time and it's really not a big deal. Being upset about the death of someone you don't even know sounds pointless, you'd be feeling sad 24/7 and still couldn't keep up.
Who said anything about being upset? I'm asking why you have to be a dick, whether you know somebody or not. I'm not asking him why he doesn't cry and I'm not asking him why he doesn't go found a cancer research charity. I'm asking him why his kindness is apparently so hard to come by that it's necessary to ration it.
I'm not being a dick. I'm being indifferent.

My comment earlier was basically to point out this right here, that for some reason being indifferent somehow implies being a dick.
 

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Moriarty said:
Ghengis John said:
Who said anything about being upset? I'm asking why you have to be a dick, whether you know somebody or not. I'm not asking him why he doesn't cry and I'm not asking him why he doesn't go found a cancer research charity. I'm asking him why his kindness is apparently so hard to come by that it's necessary to ration it.
Yeah but why is he a dick because of a joke? The person at whose expense the joke was originally done certainly doesn't mind now, so he basically brightened the mood of some people and worsened the mood of other people. Sounds like a fair tradeoff to me.


This sort of thing always happens online after all, the news of someone being dead always inplies a sad atmosphere, but most people aren't going to be sad so it creates the perfect setup for morbid jokes.

Nice to see someone understands my point anyways.
 

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Moriarty said:
Sorry Moriarty, not sold. Even if it does happen all the time, there's nothing in there that doesn't point to anything but a lack of consideration. Nobody likes to be ridiculed and if you don't care it's less trouble to show some respect and keep moving. There's that part in there about "worsening the mood of other people" that's entirely the problem. The people who might actually care don't appreciate it, so why not show a little appreciation for them if not the deceased? Because you can't be bothered? Hence we come back around to being a dick. If you're not a part of something that doesn't mean you have to automatically become a detractor. You act like it's an either or proposition.

In the words of Lord Humongous, man of peace:
 

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Ghengis John said:
Moriarty said:
Sorry Moriarty, not sold. Even if it does happen all the time, there's nothing in there that doesn't point to anything but a lack of consideration. Nobody likes to be ridiculed and if you don't care it's less trouble to show some respect and keep moving. There's that part in there about "worsening the mood of other people" that's entirely the problem. The people who might actually care don't appreciate it, so why not show a little appreciation for them if not the deceased? Because you can't be bothered? Hence we come back around to being a dick. If you're not a part of something that doesn't mean you have to automatically become a detractor. You act like it's an either or proposition.

In the words of Lord Humongous, man of peace:
Well and now you're throwing everyone out who doesn't agree with your emotional framework. You're no better than anyone else just because you try to paint yourself as the victim here. Some people react differently than you, so what? They're not barrad from expressing their lack of empathy just because you don't disagree with it.

Why can't you just let everyone react their own way?
 

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Moriarty said:
Well and now you're throwing everyone out who doesn't agree with your emotional framework. You're no better than anyone else just because you try to paint yourself as the victim here. Some people react differently than you, so what? They're not barrad from expressing their lack of empathy just because you don't disagree with it.

Why can't you just let everyone react their own way?
Who is the person who has no concern for the opinion of others to demand to be heard? Who is the person with no respect to demand respect? Expression? Of the ego. Why must you force your lack of empathy on others? Why can't you let people grieve in peace?

This is getting quite circular now.
 

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Ghengis John said:
Moriarty said:
Well and now you're throwing everyone out who doesn't agree with your emotional framework. You're no better than anyone else just because you try to paint yourself as the victim here. Some people react differently than you, so what? They're not barrad from expressing their lack of empathy just because you don't disagree with it.

Why can't you just let everyone react their own way?
Who is the person who has no concern for the opinion of others to demand to be heard? Who is the person with no respect to demand respect? Expression? Of the ego. Why must you force your lack of empathy on others? Why can't you let people grieve in peace?

This is getting quite circular now.

How is he forcing his lack of empathy on anyone else, he made a statement, you had the choice to read it or not to read it.
Offence is taken not given, what you may find offensive others may find hilarious, do not force your judgmental views upon everyone else.

@Moriarty Your comment was highly amusing, as a person who loves both pokemon and has had people dear to me lost to cancer I tip my hat to you, Awesome call.
 

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Hmm...according to her voice roles, she was also the voice of Aika from Skies of Arcadia, Meru from Legend of Dragoon, and...Sasha from Ratchet and Clank: Up Your Arsenal (likely Japanese versions)? Damn. Three great games I've played. Rest in peace, and condolences to the family.
 

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tobi the good boy said:
Offence is taken not given.
Trite semantics. Respect is given not taken. Saying someone had the choice to read something assumes they know what the content will be before hand, and now look who judges. The pot calls the kettle black. By the same logic I could say I made a statement and it was your choice to read it or not. But you chose to complain. You who reserves the right to offend are complaining that you are now offended? How hypocritical, now that's hilarious. The logic is circular. But I'm not arguing with Moriarty. Nor did he do anything that offended me. He simply chose to defend philosophically people's right to troll and I respect the way he did that, so my response is philosophical in nature. In your rush to defend freedom and liberty you must have missed that it wasn't him who made the joke, nor were we ever even mad at each other.

As soon as we start asking what right anyone has to do anything we enter into an endless argument really though. This is something I realized now and it seems Moriarty has as well. If I say "Don't step on anyone's toes." all I'm doing is stepping on the toes of the toe steppers. Making a joke about a dead person? Seriously that's being an asshole. Calling somebody an asshole for laughing at a dead person, that's being an asshole too. Bottom line: Everyone reserves the right to be an asshole in their own way. Nobody wants to live with somebody else's way of being an asshole. I get it. I don't like your lack of empathy and you don't like my being judgmental and nothing's going to change that. The best thing we can do is admit to ourselves that we don't like everything about people and move forward with our lives. I hope you get it, because arguing about it is pointless.

Take this panda for instance, he's an asshole too:

MyFooThurTS said:
tobi the good boy said:
Offence is taken not given...
Ha ha! Damn well said. In my eyes, the definition of an attitude problem is taking offense at the truth.
Uh huh. Obviously the truth was that her "ovarian cancer was SUPER EFFECTIVE!!!!" Gotcha.
 

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Ghengis John said:
tobi the good boy said:
Offence is taken not given.
Trite semantics. Respect is given not taken. Saying someone had the choice to read something assumes they know what the content will be before hand, and now look who judges. The pot calls the kettle black. By the same logic I could say I made a statement and it was your choice to read it or not. But you chose to complain. You who reserves the right to offend are complaining that you are now offended? How hypocritical, now that's hilarious. The logic is circular. But I'm not arguing with Moriarty. Nor did he do anything that offended me. He simply chose to defend philosophically people's right to troll and I respect the way he did that, so my response is philosophical in nature. In your rush to defend freedom and liberty you must have missed that it wasn't him who made the joke.

As soon as we start asking what right anyone has to do anything we enter into an endless argument really though. This is something I realized now and it seems Moriarty has as well. If I say "Don't step on anyone's toes." all I'm doing is stepping on the toes of the toe steppers. Making a joke about a dead person? Seriously that's being an asshole. Calling somebody an asshole for laughing at a dead person, that's being an asshole too. Bottom line: Everyone reserves the right to be an asshole in their own way. Nobody wants to live with somebody else's way of being an asshole. I get it. I don't like your lack of empathy and you don't like my being judgmental and nothing's going to change that. The best thing we can do is admit to ourselves that we don't like everything about people and move forward with our lives. I hope you get it, because arguing about it is pointless.

Take this panda for instance, he's an asshole too:

MyFooThurTS said:
tobi the good boy said:
Offence is taken not given...
Ha ha! Damn well said. In my eyes, the definition of an attitude problem is taking offense at the truth.
Uh huh. Obviously the truth was that her "ovarian cancer was SUPER EFFECTIVE!!!!" Gotcha.

Alright, I'll admit fault at my own in introducing a circular argument and It is true that this argument by the points that have been raised is endless so I will concede to this.

However for your quip remark at MyFooThurTS
Technically, The cancer was 'Super effective' at killing her so he is in fact referring to the truth of the matter...

In a completely off topic note I shall be having someone refer to my cause of death in the future as being "Super effective" now.
 

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tobi the good boy said:
However for your quip remark at MyFooThurTS
Technically, The cancer was 'Super effective' at killing her so he is in fact referring to the truth of the matter...
I must admit that this is true.

Tip of the hat to you sir for being a class act.