[POLITICS] Republican Rand Paul blocks vote to help 9/11 victims because he is a horrible person

[Saelune]

https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/453519-rand-paul-blocks-senate-vote-on-9-11-victim-compensation-fund?amp&__twitter_impression=true

Republican Rand Paul blocked a vote to extend funding help to 9/11 victims. His claim was due to issues of debt, but the reality is Republican Rand Paul is scum, who wants to let victims of 9/11 suffer and die because he has no moral decency whatsoever.

He is trying to finish what the terrorists started, the ones Republicans used to galvanize war with the middle east while pretending to care about victims of 9/11, pretending to care about America, pretending to care about anything but bigoted warhawk hate that it actually was. He wants to kill off the ones the terrorists could not, that is what Republican Rand Paul wants.

Oh you want to reduce spending on less important things? How about the fucking military? How about reduce all this spending on Trump's golf trips that he just pockets? How about raising taxes on rich people like co-child raping duo Donald Trump and Jeffery Epstein? Oh right, because you don't care about America.

 

[Silentpony_v1legacy]

I agree this is bad. You should move to Kentucky and cast a vote to get him out of office

 

[MrCalavera_v1legacy]

No surprise here, Rand Paul is a hardass libertarian from what i know, so any kind of welfare and public spending is (un)necessary (d)evil to him, at best.

 

[Saelune]

I agree this is bad. You should move to Kentucky and cast a vote to get him out of office

Why do you wish me harm? I prefer to not go to states where abusing LGBT people is fine.

 

[Silentpony_v1legacy]

I agree this is bad. You should move to Kentucky and cast a vote to get him out of office

Why do you wish me harm? I prefer to not go to states where abusing LGBT people is fine.

I don't wish you harm, I just want to see you do something productive. I live in a swing state and vote every time so I'm doing my part. Seems like you have a lot of valid complaints, but never any solution other that 'stop defending nazis' which always involved other people doing something.

You want to stop the kids in cages, but won't move to Texas to vote and help flip it blue. You want to stop Rand Paul, but won't move to Kentucky and vote him out. You want rapists to get harsher punishments, but won't research and vote for judges. You want to stop Trump, but won't vote in primaries for candidates that can beat him. You want to save the world, but won't move out of up state New York.

 

[Terminal Blue]

I live in a swing state and vote every time so I'm doing my part.

That's a sad and pathetic estimation of the scale of your part.

If you truly believe people aren't "allowed" to be angry about the abuses of this world, then what does your vote even mean? How are you capable of holding people to principles you don't feel people should be permitted to express?

 

[Silentpony_v1legacy]

I live in a swing state and vote every time so I'm doing my part.

That's a sad and pathetic estimation of the scale of your part.

If you truly believe people aren't "allowed" to be angry about the abuses of this world, then what does your vote even mean? How are you capable of holding people to principles you don't feel people should be permitted to express?

not really. The most important thing you can do in a democracy is vote and in US elections the only states that matter are swing states. A single vote in a swing state matters more to an election than a thousand votes in a solid color state. Everyone knows Alabama is going red, and California is blue. Here in Missouri we went Obama twice, and Trump once. Our electoral points are up for grab and every vote counts

And people should be allowed to be angry. Good great! What are you going to do about it? My sister is huge anti Trump. My sister also didnt vote in 2018 and I'll never let her forget that.
The whole point of a democracy is to vote, to Express yourself that way. If all you do is rant and rave, but never vote when it matter, you might as well have never spoken up for all the good you did trying to stop evil things.

What's the phrase, evil happens when good men do nothing? Well the do nothing part is like voting.

 

[Fieldy409_v1legacy]

I live in a swing state and vote every time so I'm doing my part.

That's a sad and pathetic estimation of the scale of your part.

If you truly believe people aren't "allowed" to be angry about the abuses of this world, then what does your vote even mean? How are you capable of holding people to principles you don't feel people should be permitted to express?

not really. The most important thing you can do in a democracy is vote and in US elections the only states that matter are swing states. A single vote in a swing state matters more to an election than a thousand votes in a solid color state. Everyone knows Alabama is going red, and California is blue. Here in Missouri we went Obama twice, and Trump once. Our electoral points are up for grab and every vote counts

And people should be allowed to be angry. Good great! What are you going to do about it? My sister is huge anti Trump. My sister also didnt vote in 2018 and I'll never let her forget that.
The whole point of a democracy is to vote, to Express yourself that way. If all you do is rant and rave, but never vote when it matter, you might as well have never spoken up for all the good you did trying to stop evil things.

What's the phrase, evil happens when good men do nothing? Well the do nothing part is like voting.

Ah but if everybody left these states to go to swing states, wouldn't their home become the new swing state?

Anyway, reminder that America spends over $600 billion on Military spending when it could probably do the same job with half that.

 

[Silentpony_v1legacy]

I live in a swing state and vote every time so I'm doing my part.

That's a sad and pathetic estimation of the scale of your part.

If you truly believe people aren't "allowed" to be angry about the abuses of this world, then what does your vote even mean? How are you capable of holding people to principles you don't feel people should be permitted to express?

not really. The most important thing you can do in a democracy is vote and in US elections the only states that matter are swing states. A single vote in a swing state matters more to an election than a thousand votes in a solid color state. Everyone knows Alabama is going red, and California is blue. Here in Missouri we went Obama twice, and Trump once. Our electoral points are up for grab and every vote counts

And people should be allowed to be angry. Good great! What are you going to do about it? My sister is huge anti Trump. My sister also didnt vote in 2018 and I'll never let her forget that.
The whole point of a democracy is to vote, to Express yourself that way. If all you do is rant and rave, but never vote when it matter, you might as well have never spoken up for all the good you did trying to stop evil things.

What's the phrase, evil happens when good men do nothing? Well the do nothing part is like voting.

Ah but if everybody left these states to go to swing states, wouldn't their home become the new swing state?

Anyway, reminder that America spends over $600 billion on Military spending when it could probably do the same job with half that.

No, not really. Between New York city, Chicago and LA that's half the population of the US. There are more people in LA than both Dakotas combined. Hell there are probably more people named Dakota in those three cities than the Dakotas combined.
You could take a million people from LA and flip Pennsylvania blue and 1 million each from New York and Chicago and flip Texas blue and that would be it. Democrats would win every national election for generations and California, Illinois and New York would still be liberal bastions voting blue until the end of time.

The red is LA city, the blue is every state with a smaller population. People really underestimate how many hundreds of millions of people live in like 3 cities

 

[Saelune]

I live in a swing state and vote every time so I'm doing my part.

That's a sad and pathetic estimation of the scale of your part.

If you truly believe people aren't "allowed" to be angry about the abuses of this world, then what does your vote even mean? How are you capable of holding people to principles you don't feel people should be permitted to express?

not really. The most important thing you can do in a democracy is vote and in US elections the only states that matter are swing states. A single vote in a swing state matters more to an election than a thousand votes in a solid color state. Everyone knows Alabama is going red, and California is blue. Here in Missouri we went Obama twice, and Trump once. Our electoral points are up for grab and every vote counts

And people should be allowed to be angry. Good great! What are you going to do about it? My sister is huge anti Trump. My sister also didnt vote in 2018 and I'll never let her forget that.
The whole point of a democracy is to vote, to Express yourself that way. If all you do is rant and rave, but never vote when it matter, you might as well have never spoken up for all the good you did trying to stop evil things.

What's the phrase, evil happens when good men do nothing? Well the do nothing part is like voting.

I helped turn Long Island blue in 2018. I vote, I vote in everything. New York City is why the state is blue. Long Island is full of elitist Republicans, and upstate (which I am not in), is basically Alabama with mountains.

Speaking out is not doing nothing. Considering how many people are so unwilling to even do that much, I am doing far more than nil. I certainly am doing as much as you atleast.

 

[Saelune]

Know what I did not do? I did not vote against helping 9/11 victims.

 

[Silentpony_v1legacy]

I live in a swing state and vote every time so I'm doing my part.

That's a sad and pathetic estimation of the scale of your part.

If you truly believe people aren't "allowed" to be angry about the abuses of this world, then what does your vote even mean? How are you capable of holding people to principles you don't feel people should be permitted to express?

not really. The most important thing you can do in a democracy is vote and in US elections the only states that matter are swing states. A single vote in a swing state matters more to an election than a thousand votes in a solid color state. Everyone knows Alabama is going red, and California is blue. Here in Missouri we went Obama twice, and Trump once. Our electoral points are up for grab and every vote counts

And people should be allowed to be angry. Good great! What are you going to do about it? My sister is huge anti Trump. My sister also didnt vote in 2018 and I'll never let her forget that.
The whole point of a democracy is to vote, to Express yourself that way. If all you do is rant and rave, but never vote when it matter, you might as well have never spoken up for all the good you did trying to stop evil things.

What's the phrase, evil happens when good men do nothing? Well the do nothing part is like voting.

I helped turn Long Island blue in 2018. I vote, I vote in everything. New York City is why the state is blue. Long Island is full of elitist Republicans, and upstate (which I am not in), is basically Alabama with mountains.

Speaking out is not doing nothing. Considering how many people are so unwilling to even do that much, I am doing far more than nil. I certainly am doing as much as you atleast.

New York is solid blue.

https://www.nytimes.com/elections/2016/results/new-york

https://www.nytimes.com/elections/2016/results/texas

You could have taken 1 million voters out of New York, leaving Hilary with at 3,556,124 votes to Trump's 2,819,534 and it still goes Blue. Those 1 million in Texas however gets Hilary to 4,877,868 to Trump's 4,685,047.
That would have flipped the election. Trump gets 263 electoral college, Hilary 268. Close, very close, probably a recount, but a win none the less.
Swing states are more important.

 

[Saelune]

I live in a swing state and vote every time so I'm doing my part.

That's a sad and pathetic estimation of the scale of your part.

If you truly believe people aren't "allowed" to be angry about the abuses of this world, then what does your vote even mean? How are you capable of holding people to principles you don't feel people should be permitted to express?

not really. The most important thing you can do in a democracy is vote and in US elections the only states that matter are swing states. A single vote in a swing state matters more to an election than a thousand votes in a solid color state. Everyone knows Alabama is going red, and California is blue. Here in Missouri we went Obama twice, and Trump once. Our electoral points are up for grab and every vote counts

And people should be allowed to be angry. Good great! What are you going to do about it? My sister is huge anti Trump. My sister also didnt vote in 2018 and I'll never let her forget that.
The whole point of a democracy is to vote, to Express yourself that way. If all you do is rant and rave, but never vote when it matter, you might as well have never spoken up for all the good you did trying to stop evil things.

What's the phrase, evil happens when good men do nothing? Well the do nothing part is like voting.

I helped turn Long Island blue in 2018. I vote, I vote in everything. New York City is why the state is blue. Long Island is full of elitist Republicans, and upstate (which I am not in), is basically Alabama with mountains.

Speaking out is not doing nothing. Considering how many people are so unwilling to even do that much, I am doing far more than nil. I certainly am doing as much as you atleast.

New York is solid blue.

https://www.nytimes.com/elections/2016/results/new-york

https://www.nytimes.com/elections/2016/results/texas

You could have taken 1 million voters out of New York, leaving Hilary with at 3,556,124 votes to Trump's 2,819,534 and it still goes Blue. Those 1 million in Texas however gets Hilary to 4,877,868 to Trump's 4,685,047.
That would have flipped the election. Trump gets 263 electoral college, Hilary 268. Close, very close, probably a recount, but a win none the less.
Swing states are more important.

Whats your goal here, in this topic about Rand Paul's crimes? To shit on me for caring? Cause that is what it feels like. But thanks for another in the 'Saelune gets tons of undeserved crap for giving a fuck'.

 

[Leg End]

Republican Rand Paul blocked a vote to extend funding help to 9/11 victims. His claim was due to issues of debt, but the reality is Republican Rand Paul is scum, who wants to let victims of 9/11 suffer and die because he has no moral decency whatsoever.

Or he does have it and just wants to introduce hit amendment that'll help make sure we can finance it, according to him at least. Sounds reasonable.

He is trying to finish what the terrorists started, the ones Republicans used to galvanize war with the middle east while pretending to care about victims of 9/11, pretending to care about America, pretending to care about anything but bigoted warhawk hate that it actually was. He wants to kill off the ones the terrorists could not, that is what Republican Rand Paul wants.

Aaaabsolutely none of that is true.

Oh you want to reduce spending on less important things? How about the fucking military?

He totally agrees.

How about raising taxes on rich people like co-child raping duo Donald Trump and Jeffery Epstein?

He's fairly Libertarian or at least leans that way, so don't expect that to happen.

Oh right, because you don't care about America.

Or he wants us to not dig deeper into the hole, and doesn't want us to make Americans pay more to get out of the hole that the Government put us in by spending all of our money on bombing brown people and their children in the name of fighting terrorism which was code for Oil.

Whats your goal here, in this topic about Rand Paul's crimes? To shit on me for caring? Cause that is what it feels like. But thanks for another in the 'Saelune gets tons of undeserved crap for giving a fuck'.

They want to help you, Saelune. Most of the forum wants to help you.

 

[Silentpony_v1legacy]

I live in a swing state and vote every time so I'm doing my part.

That's a sad and pathetic estimation of the scale of your part.

If you truly believe people aren't "allowed" to be angry about the abuses of this world, then what does your vote even mean? How are you capable of holding people to principles you don't feel people should be permitted to express?

not really. The most important thing you can do in a democracy is vote and in US elections the only states that matter are swing states. A single vote in a swing state matters more to an election than a thousand votes in a solid color state. Everyone knows Alabama is going red, and California is blue. Here in Missouri we went Obama twice, and Trump once. Our electoral points are up for grab and every vote counts

And people should be allowed to be angry. Good great! What are you going to do about it? My sister is huge anti Trump. My sister also didnt vote in 2018 and I'll never let her forget that.
The whole point of a democracy is to vote, to Express yourself that way. If all you do is rant and rave, but never vote when it matter, you might as well have never spoken up for all the good you did trying to stop evil things.

What's the phrase, evil happens when good men do nothing? Well the do nothing part is like voting.

I helped turn Long Island blue in 2018. I vote, I vote in everything. New York City is why the state is blue. Long Island is full of elitist Republicans, and upstate (which I am not in), is basically Alabama with mountains.

Speaking out is not doing nothing. Considering how many people are so unwilling to even do that much, I am doing far more than nil. I certainly am doing as much as you atleast.

New York is solid blue.

https://www.nytimes.com/elections/2016/results/new-york

https://www.nytimes.com/elections/2016/results/texas

You could have taken 1 million voters out of New York, leaving Hilary with at 3,556,124 votes to Trump's 2,819,534 and it still goes Blue. Those 1 million in Texas however gets Hilary to 4,877,868 to Trump's 4,685,047.
That would have flipped the election. Trump gets 263 electoral college, Hilary 268. Close, very close, probably a recount, but a win none the less.
Swing states are more important.

Whats your goal here, in this topic about Rand Paul's crimes? To shit on me for caring? Cause that is what it feels like. But thanks for another in the 'Saelune gets tons of undeserved crap for giving a fuck'.

We all give a fuck Saelune, you're not alone. But you literally hijack other threads to complain about Trump and his actions, yet when pushed on what you're doing about it balk at the idea. You posted in the Bond thread that this doesn't matter, Trump is putting kids in cages. Good point, what are you doing about it? Nothing. Thread about Rand Paul and 9/11. What about kids in cages? Oh well excuse me for giving a fuck!

007 is a black chick now is less a priority than literal crimes against humanity at the border? Yes, fully agree. Surely that means Rand Paul voting against 9/11 bills is also less of a priority than crimes against humanity at the border, yes?

I dont mean to shit on you. Hell I even like you, you have very valid political insights and opinions. But it'd be great if the thread-hijacking was the tip of the iceberg, rather than the sole sum.

 

[Saelune]

I live in a swing state and vote every time so I'm doing my part.

That's a sad and pathetic estimation of the scale of your part.

If you truly believe people aren't "allowed" to be angry about the abuses of this world, then what does your vote even mean? How are you capable of holding people to principles you don't feel people should be permitted to express?

not really. The most important thing you can do in a democracy is vote and in US elections the only states that matter are swing states. A single vote in a swing state matters more to an election than a thousand votes in a solid color state. Everyone knows Alabama is going red, and California is blue. Here in Missouri we went Obama twice, and Trump once. Our electoral points are up for grab and every vote counts

And people should be allowed to be angry. Good great! What are you going to do about it? My sister is huge anti Trump. My sister also didnt vote in 2018 and I'll never let her forget that.
The whole point of a democracy is to vote, to Express yourself that way. If all you do is rant and rave, but never vote when it matter, you might as well have never spoken up for all the good you did trying to stop evil things.

What's the phrase, evil happens when good men do nothing? Well the do nothing part is like voting.

I helped turn Long Island blue in 2018. I vote, I vote in everything. New York City is why the state is blue. Long Island is full of elitist Republicans, and upstate (which I am not in), is basically Alabama with mountains.

Speaking out is not doing nothing. Considering how many people are so unwilling to even do that much, I am doing far more than nil. I certainly am doing as much as you atleast.

New York is solid blue.

https://www.nytimes.com/elections/2016/results/new-york

https://www.nytimes.com/elections/2016/results/texas

You could have taken 1 million voters out of New York, leaving Hilary with at 3,556,124 votes to Trump's 2,819,534 and it still goes Blue. Those 1 million in Texas however gets Hilary to 4,877,868 to Trump's 4,685,047.
That would have flipped the election. Trump gets 263 electoral college, Hilary 268. Close, very close, probably a recount, but a win none the less.
Swing states are more important.

Whats your goal here, in this topic about Rand Paul's crimes? To shit on me for caring? Cause that is what it feels like. But thanks for another in the 'Saelune gets tons of undeserved crap for giving a fuck'.

We all give a fuck Saelune, you're not alone. But you literally hijack other threads to complain about Trump and his actions, yet when pushed on what you're doing about it balk at the idea. You posted in the Bond thread that this doesn't matter, Trump is putting kids in cages. Good point, what are you doing about it? Nothing. Thread about Rand Paul and 9/11. What about kids in cages? Oh well excuse me for giving a fuck!

007 is a black chick now is less a priority than literal crimes against humanity at the border? Yes, fully agree. Surely that means Rand Paul voting against 9/11 bills is also less of a priority than crimes against humanity at the border, yes?

I dont mean to shit on you. Hell I even like you, you have very valid political insights and opinions. But it'd be great if the thread-hijacking was the tip of the iceberg, rather than the sole sum.

What I am doing is not complaining about that stuff anymore. I was there complaining about Zendaya being MJ in the Spider-Man movies, now though, fuck it, it doesn't matter and I kinda like her now. That Bond thread was a political one, and too many people want to oppose diversity because they are bigoted, and we need to call that shit out, THATS DOING SOMETHING! Not sitting quiet when people make bigoted rants, THATS DOING SOMETHING!

Rand Paul supports Trump, Rand Paul supports concentration camps. My goal in calling out Rand Paul is to remind everyone what The Republican party is truly about. It actually is all related to each other. Why do you think I explicitly pointed out he was 'Republican Rand Paul'?

 

[Asita]

And people should be allowed to be angry. Good great! What are you going to do about it? My sister is huge anti Trump. My sister also didnt vote in 2018 and I'll never let her forget that.

You mean 2016? Or are you taking her to task for not voting in the midterms? Because I'm really hoping that 2016 was a kick in the pants for everyone who deigned not to vote and that they'll be more motivated to vote next year.

 

[Saelune]

Republican Rand Paul blocked a vote to extend funding help to 9/11 victims. His claim was due to issues of debt, but the reality is Republican Rand Paul is scum, who wants to let victims of 9/11 suffer and die because he has no moral decency whatsoever.

Or he does have it and just wants to introduce hit amendment that'll help make sure we can finance it, according to him at least. Sounds reasonable.

He is trying to finish what the terrorists started, the ones Republicans used to galvanize war with the middle east while pretending to care about victims of 9/11, pretending to care about America, pretending to care about anything but bigoted warhawk hate that it actually was. He wants to kill off the ones the terrorists could not, that is what Republican Rand Paul wants.

Aaaabsolutely none of that is true.

Oh you want to reduce spending on less important things? How about the fucking military?

He totally agrees.

How about raising taxes on rich people like co-child raping duo Donald Trump and Jeffery Epstein?

He's fairly Libertarian or at least leans that way, so don't expect that to happen.

Oh right, because you don't care about America.

Or he wants us to not dig deeper into the hole, and doesn't want us to make Americans pay more to get out of the hole that the Government put us in by spending all of our money on bombing brown people and their children in the name of fighting terrorism which was code for Oil.

Whats your goal here, in this topic about Rand Paul's crimes? To shit on me for caring? Cause that is what it feels like. But thanks for another in the 'Saelune gets tons of undeserved crap for giving a fuck'.

They want to help you, Saelune. Most of the forum wants to help you.

If he wants to cut wasted money, then Trump has plenty of wasteful expenses to take from, so does the military.
https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/rand-paul-tax-cuts-for-corporations-can-add-to-the-deficit-but-9-11-victim-relief-shouldnt-860258/

Know what else would not waste money? Not funding ICE, not funding Trumps' Wall.

He is a Republican. Now, I hold the stance that Libertarians are just Republicans, and Rand Paul only supports that.

ObsidianJones, Silvanus, Thaluikhain, evilthecat, perhaps. Voting for Trump is voting against me though.

 

[Silentpony_v1legacy]

And people should be allowed to be angry. Good great! What are you going to do about it? My sister is huge anti Trump. My sister also didnt vote in 2018 and I'll never let her forget that.

You mean 2016? Or are you taking her to task for not voting in the midterms? Because I'm really hoping that 2016 was a kick in the pants for everyone who deigned not to vote and that we'll see record turnout next year.

Actually she didn't vote in either. She voted in 2008 and 2012, then moved to Canada in 2013 and just stopped. Not one vote since, as she's not in country so nothing effects her.

 

[Silentpony_v1legacy]

SNIP

Wait you complained about Zendaya being MJ? Why, are you bigoted against brown people in histrionically white roles?