[POLITICS] Republican Rand Paul blocks vote to help 9/11 victims because he is a horrible person

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Silentpony said:
Saelune said:
Wait you complained about Zendaya being MJ? Why, are you bigoted against brown people in histrionically white roles?
I want my film adaptations to follow the source material. I still do, but as I said in the Bond topic, as long as the US is the shithole it is, that kind of stuff doesn't matter and now I make a conscious effort to not waste my time being mad at a trivial matter.

But you know, 'I don't do anything helpful'.
 

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Saelune said:
If he wants to cut wasted money, then Trump has plenty of wasteful expenses to take from, so does the military.
Aaaannnd he's against the spending outright, not just making sure we can fund a bloated military. In this case, he doesn't disagree with it, he simply wants to actually try and offset the cost, to my understanding.
Know what else would not waste money? Not funding ICE, not funding Trumps' Wall.
Latter I can see. Former, well, there are a lot of things you can cut for money saving. Question is, what is worth money and what isn't? Immigration Enforcement is probably something you want funded, if differently.
He is a Republican. Now, I hold the stance that Libertarians are just Republicans, and Rand Paul only supports that.
Sad part is, I wish Republicans still wanted smaller government and taxes. Rand Paul is mostly in his own league, compared to the rest of the company he's keeping.
ObsidianJones, Silvanus, Thaluikhain, evilthecat, perhaps.
A lot more than that, Saelune. We all care, but at many points you've seemingly turned away a very large portion of the forum, particularly people that I know are actually good folks and certainly don't agree with me on a lot of things, but you turn them away nonetheless. We cannot help you if you do not want to help yourself. That's the truth.
Voting for Trump is voting against me though.
Well, your mind is set on that. No use trying to change it.

EDIT: Did the Quote notification system break again too?
 

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Leg End said:
Saelune said:
If he wants to cut wasted money, then Trump has plenty of wasteful expenses to take from, so does the military.
Aaaannnd he's against the spending outright, not just making sure we can fund a bloated military. In this case, he doesn't disagree with it, he simply wants to actually try and offset the cost, to my understanding.
Know what else would not waste money? Not funding ICE, not funding Trumps' Wall.
Latter I can see. Former, well, there are a lot of things you can cut for money saving. Question is, what is worth money and what isn't? Immigration Enforcement is probably something you want funded, if differently.
He is a Republican. Now, I hold the stance that Libertarians are just Republicans, and Rand Paul only supports that.
Sad part is, I wish Republicans still wanted smaller government and taxes. Rand Paul is mostly in his own league, compared to the rest of the company he's keeping.
ObsidianJones, Silvanus, Thaluikhain, evilthecat, perhaps.
A lot more than that, Saelune. We all care, but at many points you've seemingly turned away a very large portion of the forum, particularly people that I know are actually good folks and certainly don't agree with me on a lot of things, but you turn them away nonetheless. We cannot help you if you do not want to help yourself. That's the truth.
Voting for Trump is voting against me though.
Well, your mind is set on that. No use trying to change it.
No he doesn't. You're just making bad excuses.

Being mad at people voting against my rights as a human is not my fault and you know it. Stop blaming me for defending myself against my bullies.
 

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Saelune said:
If he cared about reasonable spending, he would not support Trump.
I don't see any actual support from him, only wiggling to get his seat to handle Iran. If you're gonna talk about that, we have a lot of things to talk about regarding how Politics is almost never leaving people spotless.
 

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Leg End said:
Saelune said:
If he cared about reasonable spending, he would not support Trump.
I don't see any actual support from him, only wiggling to get his seat to handle Iran. If you're gonna talk about that, we have a lot of things to talk about regarding how Politics is almost never leaving people spotless.
He is a warmongering kiss-ass who supports Trump. Doesn't matter why he supports Trump, all possible reasons for it are bad.
 

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Saelune said:
He is a Republican. Now, I hold the stance that Libertarians are just Republicans, and Rand Paul only supports that.
Pretty much, but Rand Paul isn't even a Libertarian. He just holds the label and swings it around to get attention. The Libertarian label has pretty much died off anyway, what with a lot of them turning full on white nationalist. There's a reason why the people behind the Tea Party movement have gone from saying they're "Libertarian" and now call themselves "Classical Liberals".

Regardless, Paul is a spineless piece of shit. Always has been, always will be. Fucking jackass is whining about how we'll pay for it, as if he gives a fuck about "fiscal responsibility". His fucking party brags that they say shit like that just to be obstructionists. He doesn't give a damn about it, and neither do they. They use it as an excuse to seem like they're the responsible ones, when they know it doesn't fucking matter. When they raise the debt more than anyone else and on feckless nonsense. "Oh how can we pay for these 9/11 victims?" they cry, as they funnel money to the wealthy and give out corporate welfare like candy.
 

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Saelune said:
He is a warmongering
I've only ever seen him come close to supporting military action against ISIS, which I would imagine you agree with.
kiss-ass who supports Trump.
I don't exactly see much support here. Kiss-assery? Sure.
Doesn't matter why he supports Trump, all possible reasons for it are bad.
Should we go to war with Iran? Because that's what's on the table here. Do you want Trump, or Rand Paul to be handling this?
 

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Leg End said:
Saelune said:
He is a warmongering
I've only ever seen him come close to supporting military action against ISIS, which I would imagine you agree with.
kiss-ass who supports Trump.
I don't exactly see much support here. Kiss-assery? Sure.
Doesn't matter why he supports Trump, all possible reasons for it are bad.
Should we go to war with Iran? Because that's what's on the table here. Do you want Trump, or Rand Paul to be handling this?
Neither of them should even be politicians anymore. I think we're safer with neither at the helm. If 'Going to War with Iran' was a car, and it was between those two driving, I would feel safer letting the car go driverless.
 

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Saelune said:
Cause he supports Trump and opposes helping 9/11 victims.
Your own link explains why he's doing what he's doing. He is not refusing to help 9/11 victims!
 

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Leg End said:
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Cause he supports Trump and opposes helping 9/11 victims.
Your own link explains why he's doing what he's doing. He is not refusing to help 9/11 victims!
And his reasoning is hypocritical. Kind of like when a Trump supporter complains someone criticizing Trump is being offensive, when they praise Trump for being offensive.
 

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Saelune said:
Silentpony said:
Saelune said:
Wait you complained about Zendaya being MJ? Why, are you bigoted against brown people in histrionically white roles?
I want my film adaptations to follow the source material. I still do, but as I said in the Bond topic, as long as the US is the shithole it is, that kind of stuff doesn't matter and now I make a conscious effort to not waste my time being mad at a trivial matter.

But you know, 'I don't do anything helpful'.
So just to be clear, you actually agree with people who think its bullshit a black woman is the new James Bond, as the source material is Bond is a white man, but only object because they should have better things to complain about...
...however when pressed on the topic at hand, Rand Paul, compared to the greater threat of Trump/cages, take umbrage because at least you're moral enough to care?
I just dont get this. I agree that complaining MJ is brown is stupid, just as much as 007 is brown is stupid. But if this and everything is less than the Latin American concentration camps going on, by what right do we complain about anything else?
 

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Silentpony said:
Saelune said:
Silentpony said:
Saelune said:
Wait you complained about Zendaya being MJ? Why, are you bigoted against brown people in histrionically white roles?
I want my film adaptations to follow the source material. I still do, but as I said in the Bond topic, as long as the US is the shithole it is, that kind of stuff doesn't matter and now I make a conscious effort to not waste my time being mad at a trivial matter.

But you know, 'I don't do anything helpful'.
So just to be clear, you actually agree with people who think its bullshit a black woman is the new James Bond, as the source material is Bond is a white man, but only object because they should have better things to complain about...
...however when pressed on the topic at hand, Rand Paul, compared to the greater threat of Trump/cages, take umbrage because at least you're moral enough to care?
I just dont get this. I agree that complaining MJ is brown is stupid, just as much as 007 is brown is stupid. But if this and everything is less than the Latin American concentration camps going on, by what right do we complain about anything else?
I think there are two people who are mad at that stuff, people who want to respect the source and would get mad if they turned a black character white or a female character male, and there are bigots who just hate women and minorities but are perfectly fine with all the historical examples of media white-washing. For example, I do not think casting a white woman as Major Kusanagi in Ghost in the Shell was following the source material either. She is very explicitly Japanese.


But here is the thing, here is 'the line', if James Bond is white or black, male or female, that wont get anyone killed short of a bigot going through with a death threat, which is the fault of the perpetrator.

Trump putting kids in cages has already killed many kids. Rand Paul's vote block will likely cause people to die. Its not as hard as you're acting like it is. If it causes the suffering of innocent people, THATS a problem.
 

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Rand Paul calls anyone who disagrees with him part of the 'left-wing mob'.

https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/453823-rand-paul-accuses-jon-stewart-of-being-part-of-left-wing-mob-after-criticism
 

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Ah but if everybody left these states to go to swing states, wouldn't their home become the new swing state?

Anyway, reminder that America spends over $600 billion on Military spending when it could probably do the same job with half that.
Between New York city, Chicago and LA that's half the population of the US.
New York City8.623 million
L.A.4.000 millionChicago2.716 million
Total15.339 million
U.S.A. total325.000 million
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Sorry, but I couldn't help wondering if it was true. Now I wonder: WHY THE FUCK DO YOU SAY SOMETHING SO FALSE!?

 

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Just dropping by to say the idea someone should uplift their life, leave behind their friends and family, abandon current employment and/or education in order to move to another state solely for the purpose of casting a vote there is... not worth taking seriously one little bit.
 

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Silvanus said:
Just dropping by to say the idea someone should uplift their life, leave behind their friends and family, abandon current employment and/or education in order to move to another state solely for the purpose of casting a vote there is... not worth taking seriously one little bit.
Well, it is for some people.