[POLITICS] Right-Wing Hypocrisy

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Samtemdo8 said:
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Samtemdo8 said:
Left, Right, Center.

Fuck this political paradigms. Why must politics be so bipolar?
Ha

Check out this guy believing in a center
I just wish humans stop thinking in twos.
Sometimes there are just two answers, one good, one bad. It is an extremist position to believe that the answer is ALWAYS in the middle of two choices.
 

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Saelune said:
Samtemdo8 said:
undeadsuitor said:
Samtemdo8 said:
Left, Right, Center.

Fuck this political paradigms. Why must politics be so bipolar?
Ha

Check out this guy believing in a center
I just wish humans stop thinking in twos.
Sometimes there are just two answers, one good, one bad. It is an extremist position to believe that the answer is ALWAYS in the middle of two choices.
Who says it has to be the middle of two choices? Why can't there be a 3rd, or 4th, or even 5th choice?
 

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Samtemdo8 said:
Saelune said:
Samtemdo8 said:
undeadsuitor said:
Samtemdo8 said:
Left, Right, Center.

Fuck this political paradigms. Why must politics be so bipolar?
Ha

Check out this guy believing in a center
I just wish humans stop thinking in twos.
Sometimes there are just two answers, one good, one bad. It is an extremist position to believe that the answer is ALWAYS in the middle of two choices.
Who says it has to be the middle of two choices? Why can't there be a 3rd, or 4th, or even 5th choice?
Because if everyone doesn't have equal rights, then no one does.
 

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Samtemdo8 said:
Saelune said:
Samtemdo8 said:
undeadsuitor said:
Samtemdo8 said:
Left, Right, Center.

Fuck this political paradigms. Why must politics be so bipolar?
Ha

Check out this guy believing in a center
I just wish humans stop thinking in twos.
Sometimes there are just two answers, one good, one bad. It is an extremist position to believe that the answer is ALWAYS in the middle of two choices.
Who says it has to be the middle of two choices? Why can't there be a 3rd, or 4th, or even 5th choice?
Often there can be. But there are big, important issues when there are not. In a lot of political systems, for one reason or another, there are not.
 

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PsychedelicDiamond said:
This is precisely why the right is winning. They fight dirty.
well I mean by 'fight dirty' you mean literally cheating, then sure. Its like me saying I play a mean Monopoly by just stabbing everyone instead of paying them
 

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Silentpony said:
PsychedelicDiamond said:
This is precisely why the right is winning. They fight dirty.
well I mean by 'fight dirty' you mean literally cheating, then sure. Its like me saying I play a mean Monopoly by just stabbing everyone instead of paying them
Ok, this made me legit burst out laughing, thank you.
 

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Silentpony said:
PsychedelicDiamond said:
This is precisely why the right is winning. They fight dirty.
well I mean by 'fight dirty' you mean literally cheating, then sure. Its like me saying I play a mean Monopoly by just stabbing everyone instead of paying them
Well, yes. That's exactly what they do.
 

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Worgen said:
To limit that we would need a preferential voting system. We would still end up with political parties but we would have more of them instead of just two big ones.
Voting method alone doesn't break two-party systems, or hegemonic party power. Not as long as legislatures are single-member districts. Proportional representation is the way to go, and preferably in parliamentary systems as opposed to presidential systems: parliamentary systems trend overwhelmingly towards higher representation on the EIU democracy index compared to presidential systems. One could certainly make the argument as a UK-based organization the EIU is biased towards Commonwealth governments, but that doesn't explain Nordic representation on the index itself.
 

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Marik2 said:
Silentpony said:
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Samtemdo8 said:
Left, Right, Center.

Fuck this political paradigms. Why must politics be so bipolar?
This. Political parties undermine democracy.
How? Like if they're purging voting roles and keeping people from voting, like the GOP, then yeah sure. But how are the dems undermining democracy?
If the founding fathers saw the future of murica, then they would have probably outlawed political parties.

https://www.history.com/news/founding-fathers-political-parties-opinion
The founding fathers probably would've also been horrified by inter-racial marriage and women's suffrage. Also keep in mind that every founding father elected president who wasn't named George Washington joined a political party.
 

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erttheking said:
Marik2 said:
Silentpony said:
Marik2 said:
Samtemdo8 said:
Left, Right, Center.

Fuck this political paradigms. Why must politics be so bipolar?
This. Political parties undermine democracy.
How? Like if they're purging voting roles and keeping people from voting, like the GOP, then yeah sure. But how are the dems undermining democracy?
If the founding fathers saw the future of murica, then they would have probably outlawed political parties.

https://www.history.com/news/founding-fathers-political-parties-opinion
The founding fathers probably would've also been horrified by inter-racial marriage and women's suffrage. Also keep in mind that every founding father elected president who wasn't named George Washington joined a political party.
Ah, they'd be horrified at male suffrage. Most believed that the common man SHOUDLNT be involved in the political process because they... not nice.
 

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Saelune said:
But then you have apathetic 'centrists' who think there is middle ground between equal rights and unequal rights.
So, you firmly believe Centrists are your enemy as well? You also believe that a Centrist is perfectly in the middle between every possible subject?
 

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Leg End said:
Saelune said:
But then you have apathetic 'centrists' who think there is middle ground between equal rights and unequal rights.
So, you firmly believe Centrists are your enemy as well? You also believe that a Centrist is perfectly in the middle between every possible subject?
You show me the center between Trump and Hillary, and I will show you a Right-Winger.

The people who call themselves 'Centrists' in the US today are Right-Wingers. I oppose the Right.

The difference between Mainstream Right-Wing and 'The Alt-Right' is how willing they are to admit their bigotry. There is no practical difference.
 

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Actually Saelune is right about this to an extent.

Since Hillary is right-wing and Trump is further to the right, a centrist between the two would inherently be right-wing.
 

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crimson5pheonix said:
Since Hillary is right-wing and Trump is further to the right, a centrist between the two would inherently be right-wing.
Pretty much
 

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So like, people say the American parties flipped, but did they really, or did the Democrats not change all the much from a centre right party and still, while the Republicans went from a left wing party to a far right one?
 

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Fieldy409 said:
So like, people say the American parties flipped, but did they really, or did the Democrats not change all the much from a centre right party and still, while the Republicans went from a left wing party to a far right one?
The Republican party was always right wing. The Democratic party was always left wing.
 

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Fieldy409 said:
So like, people say the American parties flipped, but did they really, or did the Democrats not change all the much from a centre right party and still, while the Republicans went from a left wing party to a far right one?
Along with a shift in what is considered left and right due to social norms, that's not a bad way of looking at it.