Poll: 2nd Amendment bug you? Me too.

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xDarc

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Wintermute_ said:
As the owners of the most powerful military in the world, average, untrained citizens armed with pistols, rifles, and maybe some semi or automatic weapons are not going to defeat the well trained, organized, supplied, well armed, and massive U.S. army. It would not happen.
It would never happen? Because we're doing so well in Iraq and Afghanistan?

This place is a concrete jungle and we're having a hard time running a desert. I mean really.
 

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The Man With the Soap said:
The U.S. military is not nearly as large as people seem to think. This is part of why we have had so much trouble in Iraq. But, I still want to have my guns for in case something catastrophic were to happen. Mostly, though, I want my guns because I won't kill as many ducks with my bare hands. Now, if I had BEAR hands, that might be something.
The US has the second or third largest standing military in the world.
 

xDarc

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Guns aren't going away. There's no practical way to accomplish it. It's just another bullshit political football that the owners of the media like to throw around so politicians can pick sides and secure that special interest money.

Nothing ever changes. Just worry about your damn self. And I do. I live in the metro Detroit area, and I've been shot at for no reason what so ever. Just some kids out for a joy ride at 11:30, on my way out the door for work, and my car was parked in the street. I never needed a gun so badly then when I'm just standing there, frozen, hoping their reverse lights do not come on.

If they ever do make a law and tell everyone to hand in their guns, I'd wager a large amount of people would tell the politicians to blow it out their ass, I would... and I consider myself to be "left of the center."
 

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LetalisK said:
Howitzers can be privately owned. Granted, they're really small howitzers owned by ski companies to provoke avalanches to make skiing safe, and this is clearly not within the context you were assuming, but I just think that little tidbit is amusing.
I can just see it now... "TAKE THAT MOUNTAIN JOHNSON!! TAKE IT NOW!" "BUT SIR! ITS TOO MUCH SNOW! AND WE NEED MORE AMMO!"
 

Smithburg

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Darren-Jaguar said:
This might have been said before, but I can't really be bothered to read through the thread.

Berethond said:
What part of shall not be infringed do you not understand?
Do you ever think that maybe the people who wrote that were, you know, smarter than you?
And knew what they were doing?
They may have known what they were doing, but "smart" isn't on the list of their qualities. Nor is good grammar.

"A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."

It's the most outrageously bad use of commas ever devised. It should read something like so: "A well regulated Militia is necessary to the security of a free State: the right of the people to keep and bear Arms shall not be infringed."

Which implies that the said weapons be used for militia purposes. Oh.
I think they had different rules for grammar then.
 

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Darren-Jaguar said:
This might have been said before, but I can't really be bothered to read through the thread.

Berethond said:
What part of shall not be infringed do you not understand?
Do you ever think that maybe the people who wrote that were, you know, smarter than you?
And knew what they were doing?
They may have known what they were doing, but "smart" isn't on the list of their qualities. Nor is good grammar.

"A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."

It's the most outrageously bad use of commas ever devised. It should read something like so: "A well regulated Militia is necessary to the security of a free State: the right of the people to keep and bear Arms shall not be infringed."

Which implies that the said weapons be used for militia purposes. Oh.
It wasn't made for just the militia. It was made to protect every man's right to own and operate a firearm. Not just the militia's ability to defend people. That's what the whole "right of the PEOPLE to keep and bear Arms" part is about.
 

Shiv595

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I'm fine with people owning pretty much any kind of gun, IF THEY HAVE BEEN THOROUGHLY VETTED.
 

Berethond

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Darren-Jaguar said:
This might have been said before, but I can't really be bothered to read through the thread.

Berethond said:
What part of shall not be infringed do you not understand?
Do you ever think that maybe the people who wrote that were, you know, smarter than you?
And knew what they were doing?
They may have known what they were doing, but "smart" isn't on the list of their qualities. Nor is good grammar.

"A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."

It's the most outrageously bad use of commas ever devised. It should read something like so: "A well regulated Militia is necessary to the security of a free State: the right of the people to keep and bear Arms shall not be infringed."

Which implies that the said weapons be used for militia purposes. Oh.
No, if we're rewriting amendments then it should say, "A well regulated militia is necessary to the security of a free state. The right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.

Implying that the two are separate. Oh.

Also militia, in that time, meant the collective consisting of all able-bodied men.
 

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TeeBs said:
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TeeBs said:
I think at this point, owning a gun to stand up and rise against the government would be pretty irrelevant. Unless we have the right to bear tanks.
Vietnam war, the vietkong didn't have tanks or helicopters, they did pretty alright for themselves.

OT: heroin is illegal people still get they're hands on it. Military Grade guns like for instance the M4 Assault Rifle WITHOUT the limitation that prevents it from being fully automatic still find there way into the hands of criminals. You honestly think that dissallowing guns into the hands of the upstanding citizens. The ones without connections would prevent gun violence? No. That's 8 levels of bullshit. So the gas station operator deep in the slums will have no way of defending himself? Felons already are banned from owning firearms,yet they still have them.
Throw enough asian men into a tank's trends and you will render it immobile ill give you that.

Seriously, How many Vietnamese were killed in comparison to american soldiers.
I'd google it but I don't care that much, regardless the fact we kinda lost would indicate that it had to have worked on some level.