Poll: A question for Escapist readers from the UK.

[Faulty Turmoil]

Maybe you should watch this video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j617mImHVvk&feature=related

UNBIASED scientific proof that the Welsh are the TRUE British.

If you really want to go that route then we are all African. Listen I get that you don't like us, but it's not our fault. You seem to be frustrated about seeing England everywhere and to you it looks like we have all the power. But we're in the same position as you, albeit a little further west I mean the other west err... you know, east. The point is this United Kingdom is comprised of England, Scotland, Wales and Northen Ireland. We all get a say about how things are run, that is the point of a democracy after all, if you don't like something then complain about it to your MP.

I think that we get more coverage because culturally we've had a bigger impact, not only here, but on the whole world. It's a similar thing with the USA. They, in the recent past and now still, have a very big impact culturally on the rest of the world. Everybody knows about the USA, hell I know more about it's government than my own (Is that bad?). The reason we have a higher amount of MPs is because proportionally we have the most people and the government should reflect those that it governs. So naturally we will have a higher amount of MPs than Wales or Scotland or Northen Ireland.

The point is we need each other, if we don't stay together we will all be weaker for it. I don't mind that you are proud of your Welsh heritage, most people are proud of their country, but that doesn't make any other heritage or country any less valid (On it's own at least).

As to your true British point, considering Britain is made up of the Welsh, Scottish and English then the only TRUE British are the WELSH, SCOTTISH AND ENGLISH.

Sometimes I wish more people would remember the United part in United Kingdom.

On a less serious note, this is the best post I have ever written. I'm quite proud.

Also, I thought this was funny.

Spoiler: Silly Picture

 

[DJjaffacake]

How typical when the English keep going on about "INGERLAND" it is ok, yet the moment the Welsh, Scottish or Irish do the same we are "bigots", because I do not support England I am a bigot?? Name me ONE time the English have supported one of the other nations in a sporting contest, when Wales played France in the 2011 Rugby World Cup every English person I knew was shouting on France, but I forget the English are NEVER bigoted.

How many English people do you know? Because everyone I know was supporting Wales. Same for the World Cup after England got knocked out. And you would not be a bigot if you shouted "WEYELS", as Lolige pointed out, saying you'd support everyone but the English makes you a bigot.

Edit:

Sometimes I wish more people would remember the United part in United Kingdom.

On a less serious note, this is the best post I have ever written. I'm quite proud.

That part alone makes it amazeballs.

 

[LordFish]

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Kind of related: The Welsh Assembly has completely ruined your education system and has poured billions into forcing a minority language onto the majority in some councils. As a result one in five welsh students starting high school cannot read or write... All of this because the Welsh education sectary didn't want your schools to look 'too english'

My point: Nationalism is retarded.

Source : http://www.gogwatch.com/2012/02/06/welsh-education-policy-is-that-an-elephant-in-the-room/

So in answer to the poll, you can CALL me what ever you want, when it starts to affect me I'll take notice.

 

[Madcat75]

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Kind of related: The Welsh Assembly has completely ruined your education system and has poured billions into forcing a minority language onto the majority in some councils. As a result one in five welsh students starting high school cannot read or write... All of this because the Welsh education sectary didn't want your schools to look 'too english'

My point: Nationalism is retarded.

Source : http://www.gogwatch.com/2012/02/06/welsh-education-policy-is-that-an-elephant-in-the-room/

So in answer to the poll, you can CALL me what ever you want, when it starts to affect me I'll take notice.

Ummmmmm Welsh IS the National Language of Wales I know the English want to force the whole world to speak English but *NEWS FLASH* some countries do actually LIKE to speak thier own National Languages, as much as that will shock the self absorbed English.

 

[LordFish]

Ummmmmm Welsh IS the National Language of Wales I know the English want to force the whole world to speak English but *NEWS FLASH* some countries do actually LIKE to speak thier own National Languages, as much as that will shock the self absorbed English.

You think I even care that you're one side of the border of another. I care that there are children in my country (as in UK) being taught science in a language they don't speak.

I'd class that as abuse myself.

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[Madcat75]

Ummmmmm Welsh IS the National Language of Wales I know the English want to force the whole world to speak English but *NEWS FLASH* some countries do actually LIKE to speak thier own National Languages, as much as that will shock the self absorbed English.

You think I even care that you're one side of the border of another. I care that there are children in my country (as in UK) being taught science in a language they don't speak.

I'd class that as abuse myself.

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So let me get this straight, you are complaining because children in WALES are being taught in WELSH....what next are you going to complain that children in France are being taught in French or children in Germany are being taught in German????

 

[3quency]

No, but largely out of laziness.
Anyway, we all come from the same small, wet piece of rock so what difference does it make?

 

[LordFish]

Ummmmmm Welsh IS the National Language of Wales I know the English want to force the whole world to speak English but *NEWS FLASH* some countries do actually LIKE to speak thier own National Languages, as much as that will shock the self absorbed English.

You think I even care that you're one side of the border of another. I care that there are children in my country (as in UK) being taught science in a language they don't speak.

I'd class that as abuse myself.

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So let me get this straight, you are complaining because children in WALES are being taught in WELSH....what next are you going to complain that children in France are being taught in French or children in Germany are being taught in German????

The children don't speak welsh, yet they are being taught in welsh, and the parents, who also don't speak welsh and have no desire for their children to, have no recourse.

Once again, nice and simply: Its not a good idea to teach children, in a language they do not understand.

 

[WindKnight]

I honestly don;t really care either way what I'm considered to be.

 

[Daystar Clarion]

Ummmmmm Welsh IS the National Language of Wales I know the English want to force the whole world to speak English but *NEWS FLASH* some countries do actually LIKE to speak thier own National Languages, as much as that will shock the self absorbed English.

You think I even care that you're one side of the border of another. I care that there are children in my country (as in UK) being taught science in a language they don't speak.

I'd class that as abuse myself.

Edit, Fail quote

So let me get this straight, you are complaining because children in WALES are being taught in WELSH....what next are you going to complain that children in France are being taught in French or children in Germany are being taught in German????

The children don't speak welsh, yet they are being taught in welsh, and the parents, who also don't speak welsh and have no desire for their children to, have no recourse.

Once again, nice and simply: Its not a good idea to teach children, in a language they do not understand.

You'd be better off banging your head against a brick wall with this one.

Nothing but hate and bigotry.

 

[LordFish]

You'd be better off banging your head against a brick wall with this one.

Nothing but hate and bigotry.

*nods* will do, I get a fair bit of good natured ribbing from my Scottish girlfriend, but clearly there's nothing good natured about militant nationalism and racist views.

Cheers x

 

[Daystar Clarion]

You'd be better off banging your head against a brick wall with this one.

Nothing but hate and bigotry.

*nods* will do, I get a fair bit of good natured ribbing from my Scottish girlfriend, but clearly there's nothing good natured about militant nationalism and racist views.

Cheers x

Indeed.

I love the rivalry between our countries.

We all take the piss out of each other, but there's no hate there.

Well, most of the time.

 

[Suicidejim]

No, because identifying as British means that I can take credit for all the good things any of the others countries do. Then, if England decides to commit mass genocide or turn out to be a nation of lizard-people, I'll just go back to being plain old Welsh.

 

[LordFish]

Then, if England decides to commit mass genocide or turn out to be a nation of lizard-people

Who told you about our plans?!

 

[Daystar Clarion]

No, because identifying as British means that I can take credit for all the good things any of the others countries do. Then, if England decides to commit mass genocide or turn out to be a nation of lizard-people, I'll just go back to being plain old Welsh.

I hate you glory fans.

Oh sure, you're there getting all the good stuff, but commit a bit of genocide and you're nowhere to be seen.

You disgust me.

 

[Madcat75]

Ummmmmm Welsh IS the National Language of Wales I know the English want to force the whole world to speak English but *NEWS FLASH* some countries do actually LIKE to speak thier own National Languages, as much as that will shock the self absorbed English.

You think I even care that you're one side of the border of another. I care that there are children in my country (as in UK) being taught science in a language they don't speak.

I'd class that as abuse myself.

Edit, Fail quote

So let me get this straight, you are complaining because children in WALES are being taught in WELSH....what next are you going to complain that children in France are being taught in French or children in Germany are being taught in German????

The children don't speak welsh, yet they are being taught in welsh, and the parents, who also don't speak welsh and have no desire for their children to, have no recourse.

Once again, nice and simply: Its not a good idea to teach children, in a language they do not understand.

You'd be better off banging your head against a brick wall with this one.

Nothing but hate and bigotry.

It is hate and bigotry to teach children the language of the country they are living in, how would you fell ok if all the children in England were forced to learn everything in Arabic?? Why should the people of Wales be ok with their children being forced to learn everything in English, it is that view that is bigoted, if you moved to Japan, Germany or Russia you would not complain about your children learing the languages there so why should Wales be any differnt.

 

[Daystar Clarion]

Ummmmmm Welsh IS the National Language of Wales I know the English want to force the whole world to speak English but *NEWS FLASH* some countries do actually LIKE to speak thier own National Languages, as much as that will shock the self absorbed English.

You think I even care that you're one side of the border of another. I care that there are children in my country (as in UK) being taught science in a language they don't speak.

I'd class that as abuse myself.

Edit, Fail quote

So let me get this straight, you are complaining because children in WALES are being taught in WELSH....what next are you going to complain that children in France are being taught in French or children in Germany are being taught in German????

The children don't speak welsh, yet they are being taught in welsh, and the parents, who also don't speak welsh and have no desire for their children to, have no recourse.

Once again, nice and simply: Its not a good idea to teach children, in a language they do not understand.

You'd be better off banging your head against a brick wall with this one.

Nothing but hate and bigotry.

It is hate and bigotry to teach children the language of the country they are living in, how would you fell ok if all the children in England were forced to learn everything in Arabic?? Why should the people of Wales be ok with their children being forced to learn everything in English, it is that view that is bigoted, if you moved to Japan, Germany or Russia you would not complain about your children learing the languages there so why should Wales be any differnt.

Except that isn't what LordFish was saying.

He was saying that Welsh children are failing at English and Maths because they don't know Welsh, a language a very small minority of Welsh people actually speak.

 

[LordFish]

Oh how I wish it was a reportable offence for people to completely ignore the posts they are quoting.

 

[Madcat75]

Ummmmmm Welsh IS the National Language of Wales I know the English want to force the whole world to speak English but *NEWS FLASH* some countries do actually LIKE to speak thier own National Languages, as much as that will shock the self absorbed English.

You think I even care that you're one side of the border of another. I care that there are children in my country (as in UK) being taught science in a language they don't speak.

I'd class that as abuse myself.

Edit, Fail quote

So let me get this straight, you are complaining because children in WALES are being taught in WELSH....what next are you going to complain that children in France are being taught in French or children in Germany are being taught in German????

The children don't speak welsh, yet they are being taught in welsh, and the parents, who also don't speak welsh and have no desire for their children to, have no recourse.

Once again, nice and simply: Its not a good idea to teach children, in a language they do not understand.

You'd be better off banging your head against a brick wall with this one.

Nothing but hate and bigotry.

It is hate and bigotry to teach children the language of the country they are living in, how would you fell ok if all the children in England were forced to learn everything in Arabic?? Why should the people of Wales be ok with their children being forced to learn everything in English, it is that view that is bigoted, if you moved to Japan, Germany or Russia you would not complain about your children learing the languages there so why should Wales be any differnt.

Except that isn't what LordFish was saying.

He was saying that Welsh children are failing at English and Maths because they don't know Welsh, a language a very small minority of Welsh people actually speak.

The reason a small minority of Welsh people speak Welsh is because we have English forced upon us at every opportunity, at one point the English Goverment practically made it illegal to speak Welsh even now Welsh speakers are passed over for jobs in favour of the English.

This is just a small example of things the English have forced upon the Welsh no matter what the Welsh said about it "In 1956, a private bill sponsored by Liverpool City Council was brought before the UK parliament to develop a water reservoir from the Tryweryn Valley, in Meirionnydd in Gwynedd. The development would include the flooding of Capel Celyn (Holly Chapel), a Welsh-speaking community of historic significance. Despite universal and bi-partisan objections by Welsh politicians (35 out of 36 Welsh MPs opposed the bill, and one abstained) the bill was passed in 1957. The events surrounding the flooding highlighted the status of the language in the 1950s and 1960s.".

 

[LordFish]

The reason a small minority of Welsh people speak Welsh is because we have English forced upon us at every opportunity, at one point the English Goverment practically made it illegal to speak Welsh even now Welsh speakers are passed over for jobs in favour of the English.

This is just a small example of things the English have forced upon the Welsh no matter what the Welsh said about it "In 1956, a private bill sponsored by Liverpool City Council was brought before the UK parliament to develop a water reservoir from the Tryweryn Valley, in Meirionnydd in Gwynedd. The development would include the flooding of Capel Celyn (Holly Chapel), a Welsh-speaking community of historic significance. Despite universal and bi-partisan objections by Welsh politicians (35 out of 36 Welsh MPs opposed the bill, and one abstained) the bill was passed in 1957. The events surrounding the flooding highlighted the status of the language in the 1950s and 1960s.".

We can do stuff like that?! COOL!