Poll: A question for Escapist readers from the UK.

[Frostbyte666]

Guess what, if you Scotland and Wales wanted to be independent, both populations would have voted for it a long time ago.

As it stands, Scotland and Wales wish to be part of the UK, so please, less of the nationalistic rhetoric.

I question the validity of any of the so called "referendums" on independance seeing as everyone of them is run and controlled by the English Goverment.

Hate to burst your bubble of racial hatred but aren't most of the politicians in the English parliament Scottish? Also the English crown did end up with a Scot family (King James I of England who is King James VII, or VII, of Scotland can't remember which), of course it then went to the Germans.

Also Scotland does have its own parliament, though I admit I don't know how much about it.

My advice get over yourself, get out of living in the past and embrace the now with a united Great Britain. Besides I find in my personal experience Wales full of rascist (against english) hatemongers and I would be extremely happy to never ever set foot on that soil ever again.

Warning borderline rascist remark below except the guy who said it is Welsh.
Mmy Welsh geography teacher once said "The only good welshman is 1 who doesn't live there."

If I get suspended for this fine but I am sick of the Welsh rascism.

EDIT: Also why have you left off Northern Ireland and Channel Islands from the options of a British passport

 

[Dandark]

I would just keep calling myself British since it's the most well known. Im Welsh and I let people know im Welsh if they ask but many people don't even know what Wales is so I usaully just say that im British.

 

[Nightmonger]

Well I personally am proud of Being British (because Yorkshire isn't a country *mumble mumble*)

Also all the countries of Britain have become intertwined over the course of hundreds of years and I don't think a simple referendum will be able to break the union apart.

Also with regards to the coal mines it affected the whole of Britain not just Wales and I personally haven't met a single northerner (England) that supports thatcher

 

[Hoplon]

Well I personally am proud of Being British (because Yorkshire isn't a country *mumble mumble*)

Also all the countries of Britain have become intertwined over the course of hundreds of years and I don't think a simple referendum will be able to break the union apart.

Also with regards to the coal mines it affected the whole of Britain not just Wales and I personally haven't met a single northerner (England) that supports thatcher

No no! you can't let them know about the glorious republic of Yorkshire! not yet!

 

[Suave Charlie]

Then why live in Wales if you don't want to speak Welsh, as I have said before that is like moving to Germany, France, Japan, Israel, etc and complaining because you have to speak the respective language.

Yeah but the difference is that Welsh is a minority language among the Welsh population. I have a Welsh house-mate that can only just about swear in Welsh, does that make him any less Welsh than you?

It's not because there's some grandiose conspiracy to convert the Welsh to English, the majority of them just straight up don't give a fuck. But they're lucky you've got their back right?

 

[Nightmonger]

Well I personally am proud of Being British (because Yorkshire isn't a country *mumble mumble*)

Also all the countries of Britain have become intertwined over the course of hundreds of years and I don't think a simple referendum will be able to break the union apart.

Also with regards to the coal mines it affected the whole of Britain not just Wales and I personally haven't met a single northerner (England) that supports thatcher

No no! you can't let them know about the glorious republic of Yorkshire! not yet!

Those bloody lancastrians will eat Yorkshire pudding and like it!

Captcha: act of god (its a sign rise up fellow people of yorkshire we will show them that H and E do not belong in the word the! )

 

[ChildishLegacy]

The children don't speak welsh, yet they are being taught in welsh, and the parents, who also don't speak welsh and have no desire for their children to, have no recourse.

Once again, nice and simply: Its not a good idea to teach children, in a language they do not understand.

I'm still hoping for a response to this part.

All I've heard so far is "Rabble rabble the english were mean in the past rabble rabble fuck the english" and conspiracy theories about the past. I get the feeling that he wouldn't be hard to convince that politicians are out to get him personally..

Then why live in Wales if you don't want to speak Welsh, as I have said before that is like moving to Germany, France, Japan, Israel, etc and complaining because you have to speak the respective language.

Hate to bring this point up, but knowing English is a valuable tool for getting somewhere other than Wales if you want to pursue a career that will take you elsewhere. If you only knew Welsh then you would be pinned into Wales and that's it. If you cut out English then your country would be the only country to speak your language, and there'd be hardly any opportunities for your people to do anything outside of what's available in Wales, which could seriously upset some people that had their sights set on certain careers.

It also really helps to be able to communicate with countries that you are on the border with, and I know this is an Englishman saying "why u no learn our language", but it is kind of helpful for our entire island to be able to communicate efficiently and all of the countries are kind of integrated. Whenever I go to Scotland I feel just as welcome as in England, which is really nice.

Also why would you move out of the country you were born in because you speak a language that almost everybody can speak, but not one that a select few can speak?

 

[SpectacularWebHead]

No. I also think your should expand your OP as to why you're asking.

I consider myself English, but I'm perfectly fine with being called British because that's also true.

I'm too be busy being a stereotype to consider myself anything other than british what, what.

*Sips tea*

OP: in all seriousness, I'm english but I really don't care enough to bother.

 

[SpectacularWebHead]

Depends. If that idiot Alex Salmond gets his way and Scotland becomes independant then all residents of Scotland would have to get new passports with Scottish as a nationality. But it's ok because everyone in Scotland will vote no and Salmond will walk away with his tail between his legs and we can get on with being part of the UK.

Vote no to Scottish independence!

What?

You don't what to be independent?

What am I going to do with all this cement and all these brick?

I was gonna build a wall!

I dig my hole you build a wall
I dig my hole you build a wall
One day that wall is gonna fall

Gon' build that city on a hill
Gon' build that city on a hill
Some day those tears are gonna spill

So build that wall and build it strong cause
We'll be there before too long

Gon' build that wall up to the sky
Gon' build that wall up to the sky
Some day your bird is gonna fly

Gon' build that wall until it's done
Gon' build that wall until it's done
But now you've got nowhere to run

So build that wall and build it strong cause
We'll be there before too long

Sorry, I've got a severe case of Bastionitis today.

 

[Hazy992]

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*looks at custom title*

I bet the OP just loves you!

 

[FamoFunk]

No. It's a British passport and I am British as well as Welsh.

Changing it on something not everyone owns is pointless, I think, more hassle than it's worth.

 

[Lord Mountbatten Reborn]

I think the OP wins the award for "Guy least likely to be spoken to at a party". Now I feel telling you I'm English would irrevocably link me to centuries of history I never took part in, as well as assuming all English people are some sort of hive mind that think the same things. Oh, as well as exposing me to hateful nationalistic rhetoric. (Seriously, won't support a single English athlete because they're English and that's it? I'm sure these athletes were among the very first to cry for Welsh subjugation.)

Also, "British" is much easier for the rest of the world (not to mention the fact that it's correct in geographical terms). If you had "Welsh" on your passport the odds are the customs guys would be unsure where you came from for one thing. Unless you're thinking countries attain global significance the moment their origin changes to become a bit more specific.

 

[Westaway]

Guys, I think we can give it a rest. Obviously nothing we can say will persuade OP; they are clearly extremist and unreasonable. At least that's how OP comes across... I'm sure OP is a fine person when they're not talking about the English.

 

[Dogstile]

Ummmmmm Welsh IS the National Language of Wales I know the English want to force the whole world to speak English but *NEWS FLASH* some countries do actually LIKE to speak thier own National Languages, as much as that will shock the self absorbed English.

You think I even care that you're one side of the border of another. I care that there are children in my country (as in UK) being taught science in a language they don't speak.

I'd class that as abuse myself.

Edit, Fail quote

So let me get this straight, you are complaining because children in WALES are being taught in WELSH....what next are you going to complain that children in France are being taught in French or children in Germany are being taught in German????

The children don't speak welsh, yet they are being taught in welsh, and the parents, who also don't speak welsh and have no desire for their children to, have no recourse.

Once again, nice and simply: Its not a good idea to teach children, in a language they do not understand.

You'd be better off banging your head against a brick wall with this one.

Nothing but hate and bigotry.

It is hate and bigotry to teach children the language of the country they are living in, how would you fell ok if all the children in England were forced to learn everything in Arabic?? Why should the people of Wales be ok with their children being forced to learn everything in English, it is that view that is bigoted, if you moved to Japan, Germany or Russia you would not complain about your children learing the languages there so why should Wales be any differnt.

If they can speak English, can understand English and wish to be taught in English, then they get taught in Welsh, then I would have a problem with it. In fact that's what everyone has a problem with.

If they want to learn it, fine, let them learn it. We have no problem with that, but gimping them intellectually because you want to appear "less English" is ridiculous. Its not the same as people in France being taught in French because everyone in that classroom can understand French. If we were forced to learn everything in Arabic we wouldn't be ok, because we don't understand it, much in the same way that wonderful 1 in 5 children in Wales can't read or write when they get to year 7 or so of their education because they're being taught in Welsh, a language they probably don't understand.

Jesus Christ my family aren't even English and I get that.

 

[Madcat75]

Guys, I think we can give it a rest. Obviously nothing we can say will persuade OP; they are clearly extremist and unreasonable. At least that's how OP comes across... I'm sure OP is a fine person when they're not talking about the English.

SO when the English are proud of their country and keep going on and on about "1966" and "INGERLAND" it is ok and it is patriotic, but when someone from Wales or Scotland does the same it is racist, bigoted, extremist and unreasonable.

If each country in this so called "United" Kingdom is equal then tell me why there is no Welsh presence on the Union Jack also that the "Prince of Wales" is English and not Welsh compleatly ignoring the fact that Wales had a Royal Family for hundreds of years and also the the Tudor Royal Family which included Henry the Eighth and Elizabeth the First were descended from Welsh Royalty, the last native Welshman to hold the title of Price of Wales was in the 1300's and was also the last Welsh King ( and Welsh folk hero(see Meibion Glyndwr(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meibion_Glynd%C5%B5r))) Owain Glyndwr.

Captcha - Burning Oil, seem very apt for this topic.

 

[lRookiel]

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*looks at custom title*

I bet the OP just loves you!

*Hides* I don't wanna befriend a nutter >.<

I've had this title for long enough anyways....

 

[Captain Pirate]

No. If I had my way we'd all be classed as citizens of the world first, then narrow it down to countries just after.
I like to be as general as possible, therefore, British would be best.
I really don't give a fuck though, I'm pretty much the opposite of patriotic for Britain or England.


[small]Oh my tits, nearly 2000 posts![/small]

 

[MetalMagpie]

Although I consider myself English, I'd stick with British on my passport to not feel like a traitor to the fact I'm - strictly speaking - half Welsh.