Poll: A Thread about Killing and Torture

[GrimTuesday]

I think that Killing is wrong period. That said I think that if I had to kill someone I would do it myself with them facing me and with a very sharp sword. This is because I believe that you owe it to the person, no matter how terrible their crimes to look into their eyes and swing the sword. That way killing isn't easy and you have to live with your decision.

"The Starks keep no headsmen" Eddard Stark, A Game of Thrones.

 

[freedomweasel]

no, ***torture is fucked up***. and killing people is sad.

i say toss the losers in prison with a bunch of fat felons with extra slippery soap for the rest of there life. ***that will teach them.***

.....yucky.

I haven't figured out bold tags yet..

Torture is fucked up, but "tossing" them in prison with the expectation, and dare I say, hope, that they will be raped is okay with you?

 

[Ickorus]

It's a difficult question, I think people who have no chance of being reintegrated into society should be 'put down' considering all they'll be doing is being a drain on resources since their entire life will be spent in prison. (Though if they work for their food and such then they should be allowed to live)

On the question of whether I would kill anybody myself it really depends on the situation, your scenario about the guy pushing the button to kill the people in the gas chambers I would spare considering if he didn't do that he would be killed and someone else would be found to do the job anyway; if on the other hand it was someone who I knew had done terrible things voluntarily depending on the severity of the crime i probably would be able to.

That said I would most likely still hand them over to the police to deal with.

 

[SwimmingRock]

Ooh boy, this will be a somewhat controversial one.

But yes, I believe in an Eye for an Eye in murders with no alterior motives but anger or greed, rape and child molesting, and other MAJOR crimes should be punished with a painful death. I know that people will throw the 'Eye for an eye makes the whole world blind' but it doesnt, it is just a saying that gets under my skin.

Im very sorry if this comes off as dark, or emo, gothic even but it is just my opinion beause there are so many people who deseve this but just get off with a light sentence (*ahem* CHARLES MANSON is one off the top of my head)

Regarding "an eye for an eye leaves the whole world blind", the math just never seemed to add up to me. I mean, say everybody but you and one other person have lost both eyes. Now, you each have one left. Since the saying is about revenge, which always comes after the initial offense, we can conclude that eyes are being pulled out in turns.

So then, if you pull the other persons second eye out first, they can't see you anymore. This means you can get away and keep your one eye whereas everybody else has lost both of theirs. This brings up another interesting quote:"In the land of the blind, the one-eyed man is king." My point, in short, is that "eye for an eye" can work out in your favour, so long as you make sure to strike first. Sid Meyers' Civilization has taught me from experience that this works.

OT: I'm a "forgive and forget" kinda guy. Honestly, I'm just too lazy to foster hate in the long term.

 

[Ldude893]

Dead men don't learn from their mistakes.

 

[Railgun88]

I picked the sociopath option. I'm a sick fuck when someone pisses me off.

Yah, same here. There is a mile long list of people I'd like to torture.

 

[Firetaffer]

Generally, I accept that fact that everyone should be given a chance to live.

But if given the chance to get away with all the killing I can, I would kill everyone for every little thing they disagree with me about, so that world is just full of people who think just like me! Muahahaah

 

[Orbot_Vectorman]

To be toatly honest, some one kills some one I love, I will track them down, and I will make him/her feel guilty enugh to kill him/her self, I won't even lay a finger on them... I'll just keep talking and talking, telling the how I felt when they killed the person I loved. That way, I'm not the man who kills them, they kill them.

 

[freedomweasel]

no, ***torture is fucked up***. and killing people is sad.

i say toss the losers in prison with a bunch of fat felons with extra slippery soap for the rest of there life. ***that will teach them.***

.....yucky.

I haven't figured out bold tags yet..

Torture is fucked up, but "tossing" them in prison with the expectation, and dare I say, hope, that they will be raped is okay with you?

well, getting raped is allot better than getting skinned then getting dipped in vinegar, getting stretched out on a plank, getting your skin torn apart with whips with steel in them, getting human experiments done on you, injecting glass into your eye, getting torn apart by horses, getting forced to watch disney movies, ect.

admit it. would you rather get raped it the ass or getting glass injected in you eye? *shudder*

So, why does it need to be either or? Why can you not say "tortue is bad, so toss them in prison for x amount of time".

 

[Numb1lp]

I'm just not sure if I'm the killing type. Suppose that's kind of a good thing.

 

[kickyourass]

Ahh I've been looking for something interesting like this. First order of business, I'm pretty sure the chemical you want is called Sarin gas, now to the matter at hand.

I certainly would never go to the level of torture, that crap is inexcusable even if he is a Nazi. I would instead try and get to know the man, figure out what he did, what he thought of his own actions, why he did it, ETC. If there's a chance that he can learn the reality of his actions and change then I'd most definitely take that route and send him to prison for an appropriate amount of time. But of course it's likely that he would not be able to change at all, in which case he would only be harmful to society and I would have him executed in the quickest cleanest way possible.

I didn't answer your poll because I don't think any of them apply to me.

 

[Vrach]

Is death an appropriate punishment for some things?

For certain extreme violent crimes, yes.

Would you dish out the punishment yourself if given the chance?

Depends on the situation. If they killed or tortured someone I cared for, yes.

I'm not very imaginative, all my examples will involve Nazis in some way. Do you believe in an eye for an eye or do you think that torturing/killing people is just making one more man endure agony?

There's a reason death is bad. When bad people do bad things, bad things should happen right back at them. That gives future possibly bad people something to consider before doing bad things.

Personally, I would love seeing public torture brought in for extreme cases of violent crimes (something along the lines of killing children, slaughtering an entire family etc.). For the most extreme, I'd even be in favour of keeping the murderer alive and torturing him for an extended period of time before killing him. The needle is not much of a punishment, cancer patients go through worse things with the doctors refusing to euthanize (something that's also quite idiotic).

Note however, there would need to be a 120% air tight case against a person with not a doubt in sight of guilt for such punishments. If there's even a shred of doubt, life in prison is the right sentence (imo).

Sorry if you find that extreme, but I just don't see a reason against it. Pain can easily be worse than death and those considering murder and/or torture should know they will face the worst for their crimes.

 

[Loop Stricken]

I feel that if they understand why they are being tortured and see the error of their ways, infinitely more progress was made then just killing him.

This is precisely my opinion on the matter.

 

[Drexlor]

I would reform them them in any way possible and then when they are truly reformed I will kill them when they least expect it.

 

[IronyJones]

Sexual desires of course!