Poll: Abortion a political issue?
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Im against abortion, but for killing babies.
Nobody wins. And points to those who know where this comes from.
Its not my actual opinion though. I think the bigger issue is why girls ill-equipped for pregnancy are getting pregnant.
Why fight a symptom when we know the cause?
Nobody wins. And points to those who know where this comes from.
Its not my actual opinion though. I think the bigger issue is why girls ill-equipped for pregnancy are getting pregnant.
Why fight a symptom when we know the cause?
It's not a big political issue at the moment but i'm against abortion. The adoption process yields the same result of not having to raise a child while not killing the baby. Abortion is completely unnessecary in my opinion.
I'm against it if it's just killing a child for no reason. There are so many people out there in line for adoption. It's horrible.
Blah blah blah. Until the computer system starts absorbing and processing new information from the outside world, it is as good or bad as any other factory fresh OEM beige box.
IE I accept that a child is unique only after it has started learning. All other limits and borders are completely arbitrary. Sure, it is unique - but so are snowflakes. There are no societies for conservation of snowflakes though.
The US society is insanely religious and puritanical. It is a political issue - that's a fact. Nothing can be done about that - it has been brought to the political arena. Whether it should be a political issue... That's a complicated question. People are obviously upset about it and have all sorts of different opinions. What they choose to argue and get upset about - that's their business. They've often shown themselves to be a crazy and psychotic bunch of monkeys. Thank god they outgrew their poop-throwing phase. At least in the literal sense.
IE I accept that a child is unique only after it has started learning. All other limits and borders are completely arbitrary. Sure, it is unique - but so are snowflakes. There are no societies for conservation of snowflakes though.
The US society is insanely religious and puritanical. It is a political issue - that's a fact. Nothing can be done about that - it has been brought to the political arena. Whether it should be a political issue... That's a complicated question. People are obviously upset about it and have all sorts of different opinions. What they choose to argue and get upset about - that's their business. They've often shown themselves to be a crazy and psychotic bunch of monkeys. Thank god they outgrew their poop-throwing phase. At least in the literal sense.
However, why put the burden of a child on someone else when it's just easier to terminate the pregnancy? Besides, there could be an instance where the mother is a carrier for a disease or condition that will most likely be passed on to the child. I think abortion should remain legal just for the sake of population control.The Potato Lord post=18.68731.638473 said:
This might sound weird coming from a Catholic, but I'm pro choice. Its is a legal action that you can do in the United States, but only in the first trimester of pregnancy. Basicaly the abortion argument can be broken into one of three groups the Religious, Moral and Pro group. The religious group says that life begins at fertilization and that abortion is a sin and should be illegal. The moral group can be subdivided into three groups. One groups argument is prety much the reglious groups argument except without the sin part. The other groups argue that abortion hurts the woman because abortion is a very difficult desision, but the group thinks if you made the wrong choice it will haunt you your whole life and hurts you mentaly. the third group thinks that abortion is a way of skating pass responibility and not being responsiable. The pro group is for abortion (I figured that it was self explanitory).
well a couple things here
first of abortion isn't always cause stupid teens get knocked up, most of those tend to have the babies and get pregnant again. this is something that needs to be solved by better sex education in schools, better education lead to less pregnancy.
the other thing is those saying "oh you can give it up for adoption", there's a problem with that. it's not that easy to give a child up, most people who have done this said it was the hardest choice they ever made AND the one they regretted the most. so while it's all nice to say "yeah i could easily do that" why not get pregnant and then try and give your baby up for adoption.
abortion isn't something used as a form of birth control. it's sad to hear people spouting out that rhetoric. it's a bad statement that is full of inaccuracies on the reasons why women get abortions.
first of abortion isn't always cause stupid teens get knocked up, most of those tend to have the babies and get pregnant again. this is something that needs to be solved by better sex education in schools, better education lead to less pregnancy.
the other thing is those saying "oh you can give it up for adoption", there's a problem with that. it's not that easy to give a child up, most people who have done this said it was the hardest choice they ever made AND the one they regretted the most. so while it's all nice to say "yeah i could easily do that" why not get pregnant and then try and give your baby up for adoption.
abortion isn't something used as a form of birth control. it's sad to hear people spouting out that rhetoric. it's a bad statement that is full of inaccuracies on the reasons why women get abortions.
To me, asking if abortion is a political issue is like asking if the legalization of murder is a political issue.
I don't support abortion-- people should be responsible and exercise some goddamn self control.
Of course, I guess I'm just a silly idealist.
I don't support abortion-- people should be responsible and exercise some goddamn self control.
Of course, I guess I'm just a silly idealist.
I considered including this in my post, but then I just didn't.Ivoryagent post=18.68731.638598 said:
In the case of rape, execute the rapist and let the baby be born. If the mother does not want to raise it, then have it sent to an orphanage. This serves several purposes-- the world has one less rapist, the heavy penalty acts as a deterrent, and the child isn't killed.
I think that abortion should be legal, I don't condone it, but women should be able to have the choice, because usually if they really don't want the baby they'll find some way to get it out.
And that could mean going to an underground abortionist, which could lead to the death of the woman and the baby, so what would you rather take: 1 life or 2?
And that could mean going to an underground abortionist, which could lead to the death of the woman and the baby, so what would you rather take: 1 life or 2?
right and how many people do you know who gave their children up for adoption? i will say you know none. it sounds so simple and nice HOWEVER there's a lot of unintended consequences with that. those including worrying over the child's well being, depression and suicide, the fact the child will wonder about their real parents as well and a few other things.HSIAMetalKing post=18.68731.638615 said:
as nice and as easy as it sounds to give up the child for adoption, it's not and far from it. i'd suggest you try doing it yourself or go ask someone who has done it in the past and see how easy it was to give up the child and then what they suffered after
You don't know that they're going to have a horrible life-- at least they're getting a chance. I know that I was once a fetus, and if my parents had had me scrambled up before I was born, it would have totally sucked.Ivoryagent post=18.68731.638645 said:
And it does solve something-- unless you're trying to say that rapists aren't a problem.
I may not personally know any people who gave their children up for adoption, but I do have a friend who has three adopted sisters. All of them are now living very happy lives.cleverlymadeup post=18.68731.638651 said:
As for depression and suicide-- those are sideffects of women who have abortions as well. At least giving a child a chance at a good life away from a bad parent is a responsible decision-- murdering them while they're still in the womb is just a way of getting rid of them so you don't have to deal with raising them... all because you were too fucking irresponsible to keep it in your pants.