Poll: Aion Online, Killer of WoW?!?!

[Phoenix Arrow]

No, it won't kill WoW. From what i've seen Aion looks exactly like every other badly made korean MMO.

It is a badly made Korean MMO.
WoW is, unfortunately, watertight. Blizzard have polished it so much that it can't be toppled. It's an awful game but it's the biggest by far so what can you do? Buy FFXIV when it comes out.

Lol again same attitude (just in a different way.) everybody has this common conception that WoW will never fall, and because of that WoW WILL never fall, regardless of the epic-ness of any game around it. no matter how good a new game is, it will always be blown off. This attitude is phail.

Ugh. Stop it.
Fine ok. WoW has the biggest fanbase out of any game. Probably has the biggest fanbase out of any type so entertainment media thing. Tell me a film that has that many million people watching it every day? At no point did I say that Aion won't have a big playerbase, of course it will. Final Fantasy XIV will. Final Fantsy XI has one already, as does Guild Wars, Warhammer, Age of Conan, EVE and just about every other MMO you care to mention. Your attitude that one game will descend from the heavens and knock the socks of WoW is frankly immature and unrealistic. All it will be is one of the many MMOs which will be popular, but not as popular as WoW. Is not a conception, it's a reality. People don't like change. The amount of people that will drop WoW in favour for this will be less than the amount of user WoW will gain in one day. I can gaurantee that.

Before you accuse me of being a fanboy, I'll say that I think WoW is an awful example of an MMO. I'll also point out that I play Final Fantasy XI and I've reached the level cap on Red Mage, so don't accuse me of shutting out other possibilities or whatever you're going to say. Cling to your hopeless pretentions if that's what keeps you warm at night, but don't come at me with your holier-than-thou attitude.

I'm done now. =]

 

[oneniesteledain]

How about this.

Does any MMO game NEED to topple WoW?

yes, they do. its a mediocre game at bets, with horrible graphics and a fan base thats completely arrogantly stubborn. (though i suppose thats what being a fan is =/)

people have to wake up and notice that this MMO monopoly isnt that amazing... <.<

though now i'm just one of those bitter bastards who seems like he's trying to rebel against society.....oh well...

I was unclear. I meant to ask if any game needs to topple WoW to be successful. I would hardly call what WoW has a monopoly. The largest consumer base is not the same as a monopoly. A monopoly would mean that NO MMO could be successful, because WoW strangles the market. Since there are many other games to choose from, and since Blizzard cannot actively take a role in suppressing development of those games, they don't have a monopoly.

Well now that you clarify yourself i'll respond accordingly
no, they do not need to topple WoW to be successful, as they said they would be fine being 2nd to WoW because even then it would be a win.
however there is some pride to taking down something of a giant dont you think?

Yes, there is. I know people who've tried to tell me "If an MMO doesn't beat WoW, it fails." I was just curious if that's a common idea.

 

[Sev72]

Well....thats embarrassing, obviously Wiki isn't as up to date as I would like to think it is.

 

[Rayansaki]

Despite it eventually being better then WoW, its just too hard to hit the playerbase of Wow.

I'm guessing TOR aswell.

 

[Abedeus]

So anyone else think Aion Can pull it off?

So it's going to kill WoW, just like Planetside, Tabula Rasa, Warhammer Online, Age of Conan and all the rest did.

Blimey, you've got to wonder how World of Warcraft keeps surviving all these crushing defeats.
Tbh Aion is well established in it's own market, but simply by being an eastern RPG it's beating itself into a niche. A big chunk of WoW's success comes from it's recognisable western fantasy setting. Aion's already lumped in with anime and JRPG's before it even arrives, it's not going to rival WoW.

Put it another way, do you know any non gamers that even know Aion exists? I'll bet they know WoW exists.

My God! Non-gamers not knowing about an un-released game?! BLASPHEMY!!

Seriously dude. It's still 3 weeks till EU/US release. And the game already have 4 millions of players after 8 months in Asia.

 

[brainless906]

No, it won't kill WoW. From what i've seen Aion looks exactly like every other badly made korean MMO.

It is a badly made Korean MMO.
WoW is, unfortunately, watertight. Blizzard have polished it so much that it can't be toppled. It's an awful game but it's the biggest by far so what can you do? Buy FFXIV when it comes out.

Lol again same attitude (just in a different way.) everybody has this common conception that WoW will never fall, and because of that WoW WILL never fall, regardless of the epic-ness of any game around it. no matter how good a new game is, it will always be blown off. This attitude is phail.

Ugh. Stop it.
Fine ok. WoW has the biggest fanbase out of any game. Probably has the biggest fanbase out of any type so entertainment media thing. Tell me a film that has that many million people watching it every day? At no point did I say that Aion won't have a big playerbase, of course it will. Final Fantasy XIV will. Final Fantsy XI has one already, as does Guild Wars, Warhammer, Age of Conan, EVE and just about every other MMO you care to mention. Your attitude that one game will descend from the heavens and knock the socks of WoW is frankly immature and unrealistic. All it will be is one of the many MMOs which will be popular, but not as popular as WoW. Is not a conception, it's a reality. People don't like change. The amount of people that will drop WoW in favour for this will be less than the amount of user WoW will gain in one day. I can gaurantee that.

Before you accuse me of being a fanboy, I'll say that I think WoW is an awful example of an MMO. I'll also point out that I play Final Fantasy XI and I've reached the level cap on Red Mage, so don't accuse me of shutting out other possibilities or whatever you're going to say. Cling to your hopeless pretentions if that's what keeps you warm at night, but don't come at me with your holier-than-thou attitude.

I'm done now. =]

a respectable argument indeed.

 

[Geamo]

WoW is too strong to actually properly fail. Even though there are many people who quit with every nerf or buff, there are loads of people who join, albiet that being shortened recently.

WoW also is exceedingly powerful in that there are a fair number of people who pay for multiple accounts (see multiboxing).

Also, WAR? Age of Conan? I have a healthy respect for EvE, because that caters for a whole different type of game, with many different pathways, but it is fantastic in terms of game design.

 

[brainless906]

So anyone else think Aion Can pull it off?

So it's going to kill WoW, just like Planetside, Tabula Rasa, Warhammer Online, Age of Conan and all the rest did.

Blimey, you've got to wonder how World of Warcraft keeps surviving all these crushing defeats.
Tbh Aion is well established in it's own market, but simply by being an eastern RPG it's beating itself into a niche. A big chunk of WoW's success comes from it's recognisable western fantasy setting. Aion's already lumped in with anime and JRPG's before it even arrives, it's not going to rival WoW.

Put it another way, do you know any non gamers that even know Aion exists? I'll bet they know WoW exists.

My God! Non-gamers not knowing about an un-released game?! BLASPHEMY!!

Seriously dude. It's still 3 weeks till EU/US release. And the game already have 4 millions of players after 8 months in Asia.

MY GOD i bet technologicly illiterate people dont know what google chrome or firefox is either!! D:

this is madness! D:

my point is the fact that non gamers dont know about it is irrelevant.

 

[brainless906]

Despite it eventually being better then WoW, its just too hard to hit the playerbase of Wow.

I'm guessing TOR aswell.

Just the wow fanboys that are afraid to try anything new

speaken from a true fan boy turned non...ah..fanboy...not very creative i realise...

 

[teh_spy]

You can't kill something so evil that has claimed the lives of eleven-million people and managed to survive on $60 subscriptions for the past 5 years.

Something worse then cocaine, it has no high. It has only a low--Paying to work.

 

[Sev72]

Err... The other likelihood is that it won't be just one game that "kills" WoW, it will be a combination of a bunch of games. Aion, TOR, GW 2, all of them might do it, but the fanbase is so largely and established at this point (entrenched might be the best word) that it would be very difficult for any single game to "kill" it.

 

[fix-the-spade]

My God! Non-gamers not knowing about an un-released game?! BLASPHEMY!!

Seriously dude. It's still 3 weeks till EU/US release. And the game already have 4 millions of players after 8 months in Asia.

Fair point, but the Far East buys into MMO's a lot more than us sweaty westerners with our shoot em ups and sports games.

The real measure will be how many of those 4 million subscribers renew after a year.

 

[oneniesteledain]

Is Aion having a sub fee?

 

[WhiteTiger225]

So aion online has been called the "killer of WoW" in for many reasons. I've played both and personally i think Aion could pull it off. I really dont care if Aion is almost a mirror image of WoW, i feel it takes what WoW created and then fixes all its flaws >8] I think its about time somebody stepped up to the plate and told WoW to go **** itself. though i may just be talking through my teeth because i'm a graphics whore (i.e. i likey teh pretty screenies) and Aion is runnin with the help of crytek. So anyone else think Aion Can pull it off?

I don't care about either.. why? Because I play Runes of Magic, another mirrior of wow.. but this one has Dual classing... and killer attack antelopes! DOES WOW OR AION HAVE KILLER ANTELOPES!? HUH!? HUH!!??

 

[Snowalker]

No, I think the only MMO with any chance of giving WoW a run for its money is GW2, and thats because even GW1 has convinced many people it was the better choice.

I Cant WAIT for GW2!!! Though Aion is backed by NCsoft (they back GW1 and GW2) so you'd think some of the fan base might look into Aion (thats how i found it )

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Thats like saying I should like Exteel, or dungeon runners aswell...

Cities of heros/villians and Tabula Rasa were also made by them...

But guess what, different development teams, so I don't really see how Aion reflects Guild Wars in anyway..

P.S. and if you even mention the stupid emote they threw in Guild Wars to promote Aion, I'll slit your throat. I'm not joking, I have a knife.

3 fails in your post. Well, 4.

1. Dungeon Runners are not MMO. They are more like Diablo or Guild Wars - you meet players only in towns, then instances.
2. City of Heroes/Villains was made by Cryptic.
3. Tabula Rasa by Destination Games. Double fail, as those games were only distributed by NCSoft.
4. Aion has quest-based leveling just like Guild Wars has.

Well, I wasn't aware of a few of those, but I know Dungeon runners is still considered an MMO because Guild Wars is considered an MMO

and the way he was refering to Aion as in "well, I think Aion will be good because its made by NCsoft, and NCsoft made Guild Wars."

I was merely stating that just because a game carries the NCsoft title/brand/logo/tradmark/etc. does not make the game good, so my point with mentioning those games is still valid in that sense, but thanks for the corrections.

 

[Abedeus]

My God! Non-gamers not knowing about an un-released game?! BLASPHEMY!!

Seriously dude. It's still 3 weeks till EU/US release. And the game already have 4 millions of players after 8 months in Asia.

Fair point, but the Far East buys into MMO's a lot more than us sweaty westerners with our shoot em ups and sports games.

The real measure will be how many of those 4 million subscribers renew after a year.

Year? 10 months, 12 in November not enough? WAR after a year has maybe 1/10th of what it started with.

Considering that even WoW didn't have 4 millions until two years later or so.

 

[GamerLuck]

I am holding out for Guild Wars 2 to be the great WoW kill. Better Graphics, newer mechanics, and all sorts of stuff we dont even know about yet... All WITHOUT SUBSCRIPTION FEES.

In the mean time, ill just flit between the original guildwars and WoW

 

[yosophat]

The way you pay for the game should be appealing to some; paying by the hour instead of a monthly subscription is more economical. Although that's only in Asia I don't know if it will apply in the US or UK as well.