Poll: Alice in Wonderland or Acid Wonderland

[hearty0]

I know it's a classic, but really when I watch it I think HOW ON EARTH COULD SHE DREAM THAT!?!? The whole show is just one big acid trip, I mean really if anyone has a weirder dream than the entirety of this(cannot have been induced from meds,beer,etc) then I will be surprised.

I'll admit I had a weird dream when i was young where I had to go to the bathroom like heck, and these giant crabs chased me around chopping all the toilets up(weird it may be but it's got nothing on Alice).

I would also like to note that there were a total(according to Wikipedia) of 13 writers for this! I think that they made this by all getting high writing what they saw, and then stringing it into a movie.

If anyone disagrees then I welcome your complaint, and you may even change my mind about this, but it's going to be one hell of a challenge! =-D

P.S. I don't think the poll options are needless I'm just giving more freedom in expressing their thoughts on this topic.

 

[crepesack]

alice in wonderland was a great book even though the author was accused of being mentally ill but anyways a real acid trip would probably account for the sentence.
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[hearty0]

Meh sorry if this isn't conversational dynamite, but I'm just laying out my feelings of what I think of it. I do still like it. Maybe I'll get lucky, and someone will post something that really starts a good old argument over this.

 

[meatloaf231]

Seriously trippy film/book.

Completely useless poll options.

 

[hearty0]

Seriously trippy film/book.

Completely useless poll options.

Like I said before I'm just giving people more freedom in what thy think of this.

 

[TomNook]

Wasn't he on opium when he wrote it?

 

[Jamash]

I've taken plenty of acid, mushrooms, Ketamine (not all at once!) & other hallucinogenics in my time & although I've tripped, pretty hard at times, I've never seen anything like Alice in Wonderland or seen major things that weren't there.

The biggest hallucination I had was staring at some South American guys curly black hair, which seemed to be moving & pulsating like an sea anemone, but that's just altered perception.

I think there's a lot of misconception about the nature of acid hallucinations & acid trips, it alters your senses of perception somewhat, but never like you would see in a film or on T.V.

Either that or I have a very strong mind which isn't very susceptible to major hallucinations & doesn't allow me to stray too far from reality. I am quite a logic thinker & level headed so that could be the case.

Like TheNecroswanson said, Alice in Wonderland is from a fishing trip not acid trip.

 

[Typecast]

Yes, but it does contain drug references. Which makes me wonder why the hypochondriacs that run the OFLC don't put a parental warning on the damn thing

 

[mooncalf]

I can't say for certain that Lewis Carroll never touched a dot of anything stronger than wine, but it is my suggestion that his works are political and social satire wrapped up in a blameless guise of innocent fantasy and fancy. The caucus race for example seems pretty straightforward in it's criticism of meandering politics.

 

[The_root_of_all_evil]

I don't think it actually contains any drug references.

The Hookah (Caterpillar) is actually generally used for smoking tobacco. Take any children's story like Watership Down (Talking Rabbits), James and the Giant Peach (Talking Insects), Charlie and the Chocolate Factory(?????), Where the Wild Things Are, The Gruffalo, Chorlton and the Wheelies; and they're all a little surreal.

I think this is similar to "The Magic Roundabout", where even though drug references can be made, the real story is that Serge Danot wrote it quite sensibly, but the English simply couldn't get all the French references.(And there's proof to that Jeffers )

Seriously, look at ANY Children's TV show from the 70's/80's and they're all like that. Jamie and the Magic Torch, Mr. Benn, Trapdoor???

Jabberwock might be an acid trip, but Alice really isn't.

 

[imaroboturarobot]

one of my fav books but i do think she was

 

[hearty0]

Like TheNecroswanson said, Alice in Wonderland is from a fishing trip not acid trip.

I think you missed what I meant when I say acid trip. I wasn't talking about how this originated I was talking about how Alice could dream that.

Also I found this video that uses sounds and small clips from the movie to make a song. It's kinda messes with your head because Alice keeps singing "there is hell, follow it, to the devil"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pAwR6w2TgxY

 

[Jumplion]

Funny, I was just listening to this when I read this post.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pAwR6w2TgxY

Wasn't Alice raped in the original book? With the author on opium? It's subliminal messages I tells ya! DISNEY'S PROVOKING DRUGS!

 

[eggdog14]

Not actually contributing to this. . . idk discussion?:

Alice in Wonderland is the best Disney animation, period. (Not the best MOVIE, but animation.) It's bananas x2.

 

[BlazeTheVampire]

Some of the absolute best works in history have been created on drugs. Edgar Allen Poe was a frequent Opium user. So even if Carrol had done drugs, I really wouldn't have judged him as anything else but a literary genius. Alice in Wonderland is still my favorite piece of literature.

I hated the Disney version at first, but laid back and accepted it. The absence of the chess references irked me- the Red and White Queens were just not there at all, and the White Queen was such a FANTASTIC character. I directed the show my Senior year of high school, and the actress who played the White Queen just did so well it almost brought tears to my eyes. I love that character.

Sorry I've been so quiet guys. As much as I love talking to the lot of you, I've been studying more than I've ever studied before. When I returned to University, I found out that there was a much greater gap in the curricula of my two Japanese classes than I'd originally thought, and now I'm three chapters behind. Once I get caught up, I'll be one more. Promise.

 

[Lord Krunk]

Funny. I thought the book was about drugs.

 

[Lord Krunk]

Some of the absolute best works in history have been created on drugs. Edgar Allen Poe was a frequent Opium user. So even if Carrol had done drugs, I really wouldn't have judged him as anything else but a literary genius. Alice in Wonderland is still my favorite piece of literature.

I hated the Disney version at first, but laid back and accepted it. The absence of the chess references irked me- the Red and White Queens were just not there at all, and the White Queen was such a FANTASTIC character. I directed the show my Senior year of high school, and the actress who played the White Queen just did so well it almost brought tears to my eyes. I love that character.

Sorry I've been so quiet guys. As much as I love talking to the lot of you, I've been studying more than I've ever studied before. When I returned to University, I found out that there was a much greater gap in the curricula of my two Japanese classes than I'd originally thought, and now I'm three chapters behind. Once I get caught up, I'll be one more. Promise.

Don't forget the author of Sherlock Holmes.

He was a heroin addict.