Poll: Am I In The Wrong Here??

[Aulleas123]

Being a teacher, it's not cute, hip, or smart to start an argument about an asinine rule that you feel is 'dumb.' It makes the student look immature and ignorant. In fact, it makes the student who yells and screams and tries to squirm out of the rules worse than the other students around them who are doing stupid stuff like screaming and throwing trash.

The point is that you have all the rest of the day to listen to music, your teacher is asking for between 1-2 hours of your time (depending on the school and the program you're in). Suck it up, deal with it. Was s/he being a douche? Probably. It still makes you look like the lesser man/woman for making a pointless cause. Sorry to say.

 

[shadowelancer]

You were not in the right to disrespect him. When he asked you to put them away, you should have. Period.

you are clearly one of the people who assumes that anyone in a position of any power deserves automatic respect due to the fact that they can uphold arbitrary rules. While he was in the wrong to not put them away the teacher was in the wrong to automatically expect respect from him. Iv dealt with many situations where the teacher expects respect for no reason and i refuse to give it to them.

Personally i think he couldve found a better way to stand up to the teacher but the way the teacher reacted was the worst possible way. Personally i never understand why teachers get all bent out of shape about having the little earbuds out, i wear the full headphones that completely cover ones ears and can be seen a mile away but no teachers ever bother me about it its always the kids with earbuds that get targeted for some stupid arbitrary reason. Maybe this is why i take a true neutral stance on things

 

[humpty334]

Just When He Tries It Again Say

"Fuck You I Am Not Gonna Do What You Tell Me"

And Put Something About Communism In There Because It Would Be Alpha

 

[Varya]

Sometimes, you have to break rules, even for small things.

This was not one of those times.

The rule is a bit silly, but it's harmless. There's NO REASON for you to break it. Thus, I can't support anyone breaking it.

The rule was stupid, and he questioned it, in response the teacher decides to confiscate his stuff instead of treating him with respect and taking the discussion. Ok, so he overreacted, fought a silly fight, but he just got one and a half weeks of detention for either 1.) A silly rule or 2.)Questioning a teacher. I don't accept any of them as enough, especially if the teacher disregarded the more disrupting students to peruse a silly rule about headphones.

 

[emeraldrafael]

EDIT:

Misread. Its stated its against the rules. so you are.

Though I have to say your uniform rule is easy going.

hell, my school didnt allow you ot wear rings, unless you had a 3.75 GPA. And that meant the girls too.

EDIT 2:

necklaces were a big no no too. especially those chain design ones as the chain that look like a real set of chains.

 

[New Frontiersman]

What you did was not wrong, but the way you handled it was poor. You probably should of just put away the headphones, some battles are just not worth fighting, and some teachers cannot be reasoned with.

By the way I do agree, that teacher sounds like quite the douche.

 

[t3h br0th3r]

Sometimes you just have to be the bigger man (or woman). Just because the authority figure is a gigantic dick, you don't get to be one back.

If the rules say no headphones they don't have have headphones out. If you have them out as a mistake then acknowledge it as such instead of trying to justify it.

 

[cookyy2k]

This is ridiculous there are actually people on here arguing that because the rule is stupid breaking it is ok. I can come up with quite a lot of laws that are stupid but breaking them is not ok. Their is a set of rules layed down, letting one person break one because they don't agree with the logic behind it just encourages others to do the same loose interpretation of the rules and leads to the complete loss of order.

As I said earlier you're lucky to get ipods on school grounds atall, I don't see why this is a huge problem rule. Comeon I assume most of you went through or are in high school, teachers have enough problems keeping the ignorant masses under control without the people who actually want to learn playing up too.

 

[shadowelancer]

Sometimes, you have to break rules, even for small things.

This was not one of those times.

The rule is a bit silly, but it's harmless. There's NO REASON for you to break it. Thus, I can't support anyone breaking it.

The rule was stupid, and he questioned it, in response the teacher decides to confiscate his stuff instead of treating him with respect and taking the discussion. Ok, so he overreacted, fought a silly fight, but he just got one and a half weeks of detention for either 1.) A silly rule or 2.)Questioning a teacher. I don't accept any of them as enough, especially if the teacher disregarded the more disrupting students to peruse a silly rule about headphones.

In my mind the way the teacher reacted has me thinking that hes one of those overbearing assholes who cant get off unless hes enforcing insipid rules. Most of the teachers iv had in life would either shrug and walk away or start a discussion depending on what class im in and iv only had a small handful that take the "those are the rules and since you questioned them your clearly disrespecting me and im going to punish you to the full extent i can" stance. It always pisses me off that teachers do that and is the primary reason i rarely give teachers respect unless they truly earn it.

 

[Akytalusia]

i can't vote. you weren't in the right. but what you did wasn't wrong, it was simply against the rules. you were aware of this rule and deliberately disobeyed it. it's reasonable to expect a reprimand.

 

[OmniscientOstrich]

If your headphones weren't plugged in, why did you have them out?

I had teachers who disliked that I wore my headphones around my neck when I was in Secondary school. but it was usually because of tests.
defying trivial rules is not worth being right over. It is all about picking your battles.

What he said.

 

[TheAceTheOne]

I was in a similar situation. Only difference is that I got in no trouble for keeping them in

I support you keeping them in. I do the same thing in class. I keep my 'phones on (I have over-ear headphones), or at least wear them around my neck, sometimes leaning one ear on them and relaxing when I'm done with my work. I'm not saying you're right or wrong, but I am saying that if I had the chance, I'd have given you back up, and probably done the same thing you did.

 

[lacktheknack]

Sometimes, you have to break rules, even for small things.

This was not one of those times.

The rule is a bit silly, but it's harmless. There's NO REASON for you to break it. Thus, I can't support anyone breaking it.

The rule was stupid, and he questioned it, in response the teacher decides to confiscate his stuff instead of treating him with respect and taking the discussion. Ok, so he overreacted, fought a silly fight, but he just got one and a half weeks of detention for either 1.) A silly rule or 2.)Questioning a teacher. I don't accept any of them as enough, especially if the teacher disregarded the more disrupting students to peruse a silly rule about headphones.

Just because one is wrong doesn't mean the other is right.

 

[dex-dex]

If your headphones weren't plugged in, why did you have them out?

I had teachers who disliked that I wore my headphones around my neck when I was in Secondary school. but it was usually because of tests.
defying trivial rules is not worth being right over. It is all about picking your battles.

What he said.

Uh not trying to be a douche but I am not a dude.

 

[CM156_v1legacy]

you are clearly one of the people who assumes that anyone in a position of any power deserves automatic respect due to the fact that they can uphold arbitrary rules.

They deserve respect because they can punish you if you don't follow the rules. And with children and teenagers, fear is respect.

While he was in the wrong to not put them away the teacher was in the wrong to automatically expect respect from him. Iv dealt with many situations where the teacher expects respect for no reason and i refuse to give it to them.

Might I ask this? Has that ever helped you? Might I also add that the teacher has gone through school to learn how to teach, and dedicates their time to making sure it is done? In other words, they have done more then you likely have. So yes, by default, they do deserve respect.

Personally i think he couldve found a better way to stand up to the teacher but the way the teacher reacted was the worst possible way. Personally i never understand why teachers get all bent out of shape about having the little earbuds out, i wear the full headphones that completely cover ones ears and can be seen a mile away but no teachers ever bother me about it its always the kids with earbuds that get targeted for some stupid arbitrary reason.

If you allow one rule to be broken, it encourages students to chalange you there for every little thing. If he had a problem with that rule, he could have taken it up with the school

Maybe this is why i take a true neutral stance on things

Sorry, but you are more Chaotic Neutral. And coming from someone who is Lawful Good (96,86), that's not a good thing in my mind.

 

[holy_secret]

I hate following stupid rules, really. I would've done exactly the same as you.
I would never ever, however, think that he was wrong in doing what he did. He may be a douchbag, but he's not wrong in what he did.

Technically, you were wrong. But in my books, you were right.
Crossed the poll as "wrong".

 

[shadowelancer]

you are clearly one of the people who assumes that anyone in a position of any power deserves automatic respect due to the fact that they can uphold arbitrary rules.

They deserve respect because they can punish you if you don't follow the rules. And with children and teenagers, fear is respect.

While he was in the wrong to not put them away the teacher was in the wrong to automatically expect respect from him. Iv dealt with many situations where the teacher expects respect for no reason and i refuse to give it to them.

Might I ask this? Has that ever helped you? Might I also add that the teacher has gone through school to learn how to teach, and dedicates their time to making sure it is done? In other words, they have done more then you likely have. So yes, by default, they do deserve respect.

Personally i think he couldve found a better way to stand up to the teacher but the way the teacher reacted was the worst possible way. Personally i never understand why teachers get all bent out of shape about having the little earbuds out, i wear the full headphones that completely cover ones ears and can be seen a mile away but no teachers ever bother me about it its always the kids with earbuds that get targeted for some stupid arbitrary reason.

If you allow one rule to be broken, it encourages students to chalange you there for every little thing. If he had a problem with that rule, he could have taken it up with the school

Maybe this is why i take a true neutral stance on things

Sorry, but you are more Chaotic Neutral. And coming from someone who is Lawful Good (96,86), that's not a good thing in my mind.

I refuse to argue with someone who claims that people deserve respect because they can punish you. That essentially means that people like Stalin deserve respect because he can have you thrown in a gulag. Your argument for respecting people is flawed and i refuse to speak to someone who views any alignments beyond lawful good as a bad thing. Good day sir

 

[Regiment]

...Might I also add that the teacher has gone through school to learn how to teach, and dedicates their time to making sure it is done? In other words, they have done more then you likely have. So yes, by default, they do deserve respect... If you allow one rule to be broken, it encourages students to chalange you there for every little thing.

I had a long and involved post, but it basically said this in about twice as many words.

You (the original poster) were in the wrong. At least at the school where I work, teachers are supposed to take electronics the first time they're used in class. When your teacher asked you to put the headphones away, he was being nice. When you refused, you were being disrespectful, and he had every right to ask for the iPod. Arguing with him at that phase was wrong. Whether or not you think the rule is fair is irrelevant, unfortunately. It's the school's prerogative to make up its rules.

Sorry.

 

[ZeroMachine]

Choose your battles, dude.

Yeah, the teacher was an ass. Yeah, it's an arbitrary rule.

But trust me... shit like that? Just. Isn't. Worth it.

Once you get into college you'll see what I mean. Stupid rules like that stop existing. So endure for whatever amount of years you have left of high school and then do whatever you want.