TheIronRuler said:
I guess I was wrong after all, I had just not seen it as a "prefix" before.Keava said:
Poll: 'Anno Domini' in other cultures
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There are people who still use AD? In a non-historical sense (like a character in the middle ages saying the date) or ironic sense, I mean.TheIronRuler said:
I've used CE for years.
Also, I quite like bagels. ^^
Sorry, you've lost me there. How does change of position signify that it's not an English abbreviation?TheIronRuler said:
On looking into this, it appears that proper form does place the designation before the year, though always after centuries.
So I learned something today. Huzzah.
Love them.TheIronRuler said:
I found the source of my confusion, AD being a "prefix" and BC being a "suffix". Sigh.
I say: Fuck BC. Fuck AD. We should decide a singular (preferably rounded out) moment when Humanity "started" -as in when the first Human Civilization was set up- and just name that Year 1.
So if the Civilization games were to be believed, this year would 6011. According to that game, Human civilization started in 4000 BC. I'm not sure how historically accurate that is; someone should double check, (though I want it to be 4000 BC since that's a nicely rounded up figure; better than 5485 or something.) but yeah.....anyone else agree with this or am I just batshit insane?
So if the Civilization games were to be believed, this year would 6011. According to that game, Human civilization started in 4000 BC. I'm not sure how historically accurate that is; someone should double check, (though I want it to be 4000 BC since that's a nicely rounded up figure; better than 5485 or something.) but yeah.....anyone else agree with this or am I just batshit insane?
The problem is we don't know when the first civilisation was made, the lastest news is that we've found 11,0000 year old grave sites but there are probably older ones out there, so it would be a rather fluent and useless scale.GrizzlerBorno said:
Yeah I am aware the AD calender is probably off by 7 years.
Knew that already. I use CE and BCE - pretty sure BC and AD have been phasing out slowly in favour of the other two for a while now.
And just because its translation is "in the year of our lord", its hardly an indication of someone's religious stance if they use it.
And just because its translation is "in the year of our lord", its hardly an indication of someone's religious stance if they use it.
In Tsarist Russia they used РХ (Рождество ХристовоTheIronRuler said:
which was basically since Birth of Christ.But USSR and it's awesome atheism brought us to Russia's current calendar.
Now it's like 2011 н.э. which stands for "наша эра" and translates to "our era"
Anything before is 5000 до н.э. which is "till our era"
I used to think Anno Domini translated to "Our Era".
Will I use it now? No, cause I'm a Russian agnostic.
Bagels?
You can also say fuck time, why doesn't it work inb the metric system?GrizzlerBorno said:
Why won't a minute be comprised of 100 seconds, an hour of 100 minutes and a day of 20 hours? have a week of ten days and a month of 100.
Because, quoting 'Bob' here, "The World.. Is... WEIRD!"
Ah, so is this thread's genesis due to some idiosyncratic frustration? In what fashion does your teacher do this anyhow? And yet no kudos for my love of bagels and cream cheese?TheIronRuler said:
The question is, why do you care?
Over on another forum, I don't tend to hang around on this one as much now so can't comment, but they reported "Merry Christmas" as religious and inflammatory. And there's a current push in politics to get rid of Christmas. Which is kinda funny considering Santa isn't Christian, he's a Coke marketing gimmick. And a bloody good one.
I use AD and I also say "Merry Christmas" if I do offer a seasons greetings rather than "Happy Holidays" or CE. The only people I've come across who take exception to that are "hardcore" atheists who are looking for an excuse to rag on someone.
Like the homosexual pair (not a couple mind) who went out of their way to go to a hotel in the middle of nowhere that had a policy of "No unmarried couples in the same room/bed". Which is reasonable enough, cuts down on prostitution, keeps them out of any sordid business with secretaries and lawyers. But the pair sued them for discrimination and won. That's what this thread looks like IMO.
Grow up, you're giving the rest of us a bad name.
Over on another forum, I don't tend to hang around on this one as much now so can't comment, but they reported "Merry Christmas" as religious and inflammatory. And there's a current push in politics to get rid of Christmas. Which is kinda funny considering Santa isn't Christian, he's a Coke marketing gimmick. And a bloody good one.
I use AD and I also say "Merry Christmas" if I do offer a seasons greetings rather than "Happy Holidays" or CE. The only people I've come across who take exception to that are "hardcore" atheists who are looking for an excuse to rag on someone.
Like the homosexual pair (not a couple mind) who went out of their way to go to a hotel in the middle of nowhere that had a policy of "No unmarried couples in the same room/bed". Which is reasonable enough, cuts down on prostitution, keeps them out of any sordid business with secretaries and lawyers. But the pair sued them for discrimination and won. That's what this thread looks like IMO.
Grow up, you're giving the rest of us a bad name.
I'm always glad to learn about russia.Shirokurou said:In Tsarist Russia they used РХ (Рождество ХристовоTheIronRuler said:
But USSR and it's awesome atheism brought us to Russia's current calendar.
Now it's like 2011 н.э. which stands for "наша эра" and translates to "our era"
Anything before is 5000 до н.э. which is "till our era"
I used to think Anno Domini translated to "Our Era".
Will I use it now? No, cause I'm a Russian agnostic.
Bagels?
Never knew that.
I might ask my father about it some day.
I think you spell Tzar with a 'z'.
Language is a constantly evolving thing, and its origins are rarely PC. This phrase does imply that I'm a Christian, just as "rule of thumb" implies that I beat my wife. That doesn't make it true, and using "CE" doesn't change the fact that you're counting the years since Jesus was born (give or take).TheIronRuler said:
As for your other questions:
1) Yes. I am a language geek, and this is not a particularly obscure fact.
2) I will continue to use Anno Domini. Language is more fun with Latin in it, and nobody but history majors ever gets upset at it anyway.
3) Asiago and cinnamon only. Also, cream cheese is the devil.
She has a fetish for disregarding christianity, so when in class she use the genesis count.. Is that how you say it in English?Ghengis John said:
She is one teacher out of many that use the christian calender.
It's just a notation for keeping track of time and history, no reason to make a big deal over its name. Also, consider this: to this day, current is defined as going in the opposite direction of the current's actual direction. It has not been redefined "for historical reasons". If we can keep an outright fault for Historical reasons, then surely we can keep a name for historical reasons.
And bagels are alright I guess.
And bagels are alright I guess.
CE and BCE are supposed to be taught in history now but I know AD and BC are also still used. I forget the wording but I believe muslims have one that goes in the year of muhammed or something simmiler.
But Remember time is something arbitrairily created by humans.
But Remember time is something arbitrairily created by humans.
