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Poll: Any Romantics out there?
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No, that is something that psychopaths do. Yes, women separate men into categories; men do the same thing. Look at all of your female acquaintances; there are some you'd date if you had the opportunity, some you'd fuck, some you'd only do the friend thing with, and some you'd prefer never to talk to again. Furthermore, if a man realizes that a woman is playing games with him, he will do one of three things: if he's that sort of person, he'll start his own mind games and they'll be happy fucking with each other into eternity; if he has any notable level of self-esteem, he'll move on; or, if he's just looking for a relationship so he can feel better about himself, he'll let her shit all over him until she gets sick of it.ninjablu said:
People are talking like men don't allow women to do shitty things to them.
Ninja, not all women do that. Not even the majority. Some do, and those are the ones that get around a lot, thus keeping the belief alive that the majority, if not all, women are like that. Guys play games too, we just don't see that because, well, we're the guys that don't. We don't see the games that happen with us as you say, how are we supposed to see the games happening to other people? Guy games are different. Guy games are more along the lines of trying to figure out whether or not this chick will sleep with the guy, and then whether or not he wants to keep her, or say "it was a one night thing, don't be mad we were both drunk". I know many guys personally that play these games. It hurts the girl that actually liked the guy and thought he liked her just as much as it hurts the guy that wants to be in the date zone but gets thrown into the friend zone repeatedly. The only difference is the girl gets to have sex before she's rejected, the guy doesn't, and then is expected to be a friend to the girl.
Ah the person I had been attempting to court let's say I had something nice and grand planned in order to reveal my affection, I never expected it to come to anything I just wanted to say it in a nice way. But after a month or two of delays I just rang her and sort of mumbled and stumbled it out. To be fair she hadn't long been out of a fairly long relationship and I don't care that nothing happened because of my actions I'm just glad I did it and so is she. I try to be elegant and grand if circumstances permit it but if I can't then I do my best.
Something may come of it and I very much hope so but if it doesn't then well I'm just glad I plucked up courage and got it out of the way.
She's very nice and smart and all that lark but terribly confusing at times, then again so are people generally.
I try my best which is a damn lot more than some other vagrants I know, all seems terribly unfair at times.
Still we endeavour.
Edit: Oh yeah, it wasn't a rejection it was more of a put off for now, maybe, 'kinda?' One can always hope but I can remain humble if needed.
Something may come of it and I very much hope so but if it doesn't then well I'm just glad I plucked up courage and got it out of the way.
She's very nice and smart and all that lark but terribly confusing at times, then again so are people generally.
I try my best which is a damn lot more than some other vagrants I know, all seems terribly unfair at times.
Still we endeavour.
Edit: Oh yeah, it wasn't a rejection it was more of a put off for now, maybe, 'kinda?' One can always hope but I can remain humble if needed.
Hopeless romantic...I'm pretty bitter about it.
I'm not sure what that makes me.
You aren't anonymous here, and you can't expect any form of credibility or respect if you're going to act like a misogynist shit.
There are plenty of female users on this site, and I know I would be personally offended if I was one of them.
Hell, I'm still angered despite my testicles.
If you want to be a sexist prick, go to 4Chan, leave it out of here.
I'm not sure what that makes me.
avykins said:
avykins said:
This isn't a Chan site.avykins said:
You aren't anonymous here, and you can't expect any form of credibility or respect if you're going to act like a misogynist shit.
There are plenty of female users on this site, and I know I would be personally offended if I was one of them.
Hell, I'm still angered despite my testicles.
If you want to be a sexist prick, go to 4Chan, leave it out of here.
Some of us (me) enjoy being treated as special in incidental matters (such as the door-holding thing), but wish to be held to the same standards and receive the same rewards as men for achieving the same things in non-incidental matters. I also think that women properly treat *men* as being special by, say, smiling at them or whatever. It works both ways.ninjablu said:
As far as I can tell, the standards/reward thing works fine, so I don't know what most women complain about. Sure, maybe you can't be a firefighter, but that's because you can't shoulder a 200 lb. body and run down a staircase, not because you're a woman. (I know women who CAN do this.)
It can be romantic . . . in bed. Start pillow-talk with a woman you barely know and she will rightly regard you as an ass. But most people will regard you as an ass if you start making personal statements or asking personal questions when they don't know you.santaandy said:
I used to be a romantic... then I started dating.
I learned pretty quickly that idealism doesn't work in the real world...
It still comes and goes... but it's more often gone than here.
I learned pretty quickly that idealism doesn't work in the real world...
It still comes and goes... but it's more often gone than here.
Nope, you're wrong. I would fuck or date none of my female acquaintances, excluding two. One of these is my ex, so I can't say I wouldn't fuck her because I have. The other one is one who has earned great respect with me and I am currently courting. I'll agree there are some I'd prefer to never talk too again, and this is mostly because they were a ***** when I was perfectly polite. I'm not polite all the time, not even close, but I know when I am and when I don't deserve harsh treatment.Good morning blues said:
And here's the problem with those three options: this isn't mind fucking. It's testing. Any psychologist will agree with me as well as my old ethics teacher, who was a woman that believed in the righteousness of the human spirit. This is something most women do regardless of whether they are are aware of it or not. If I was living somewhere near you, I would offer to go to a bar or some other place people go to get picked up/pick up with you and prove it. This even happens to me at my work, because it's the place I'm most confident it's the place I get the most attention from female coworkers or customers.
And the problem again is that men don't realize they are being tested, even if they have healthy levels of self-esteem. The whole "does this make me look fat?" is something that men just deal with, not something that makes them walk away instantly.
I agree. Men play this game too. But I disagree. MOST women play this game. the ones who are playing these games are the ones who know they are attractive and use it to their advantage. Men get hurt by the women doing it and women get hurt by the men doing it. I agree that it's all categorical bullshit.Unholykrumpet said:
What I'm saying, however, is that most women who play the game don't even realize they are doing it, while most guys have to actually be trying to play the game to play it. This is why men tend to be less successful at the game then women. If a man OR a woman doesn't know a game is being played, they are likely to fail at it. And I think it's wrong for the game to be played at all. It's just my educated opinion women play it almost consistently, while men don't.
So let me get this straight. You think that I should, on a usual basis, hold the door open for you and be sensitive to the fact that you are a woman when talking to you in the office, and that you think I should go out of my way to treat you better (like, say, not cussing with) than just a guy I share a cubicle with, but then when it comes promotion time you and I should be equal, although the only thing you've done to reciprocate me going out of my way is a smile here and there.JMeganSnow said:
Do you see the double standard yet?
And I am so confused by your second paragraph. When did personal economics become a job as a firefighter?
Well, I don't know what to say. Either you have had some bad experiences that have left you excessively bitter, or my life and my associates are the best the world has to offer.ninjablu said:
Possibly a mixture of both. I'm just fed up with manipulation and, because of the way I act, every woman whom I meet thinks I'm a toy or a friend, but never a date. Gets old.Good morning blues said:
Sorry for the amount of bile in that last post. Given the chance, I'd take out maybe 10% of it.
You don't understand his point. He does not want to score. He would rather keep his own mind working on his own stuff instead of trying to sort out someones elses life and his.jockslap said:
Nickname: Solid Snake attitude, Someone who gets their job done and worrys about screwing later. Non video game nickname would be someone who does not think with their penis.
Peoples' obsession with sex disgusts me. I mean, it's great and all; but not worth the way people ignore their morals to get it. I've pretty much decided I will die without ever having a girlfriend. During the time I like someone, and my crushes usually last a few years, even if I know for sure it's pointless, will never go out with anyone else. The people I like aren't usually people I talk to on a regular basis, and I will not ask someone out who I do not really know, I lack the guts. Also, in order for me to like you, I need to at least be a bit attracted to you physically, and I will never, ever go out with an airhead or person I don't like much just for their body. Not much room left.
I am a romantic, but I am incredibly hopeless for three reasons:
1. I am unbelievably socially awkward. Here's a conversation I recently had that resembles most others:
Girl: Hey.
Me: Huh? Oh. Uh... hey.
Girl: What's up?
Me: Huh? Oh. Um. Er. Uh... I'm... okay... I guess. (walks away awkwardly)
2. I lack the ability to start a conversation. Just about every time I speak to someone without them speaking to me first, everything I say comes out as barely distinguishable mumbles.
3. I rarely notice when someone is trying to be nice to me and I usually respond coldly, sometimes without even realising it until after I've said it.
Sometimes, I really hate being me.
1. I am unbelievably socially awkward. Here's a conversation I recently had that resembles most others:
Girl: Hey.
Me: Huh? Oh. Uh... hey.
Girl: What's up?
Me: Huh? Oh. Um. Er. Uh... I'm... okay... I guess. (walks away awkwardly)
2. I lack the ability to start a conversation. Just about every time I speak to someone without them speaking to me first, everything I say comes out as barely distinguishable mumbles.
3. I rarely notice when someone is trying to be nice to me and I usually respond coldly, sometimes without even realising it until after I've said it.
Sometimes, I really hate being me.
I would so take that instead of my incredibly deep voice. If I do not speak loud enough its really hard to distinguish what I say. Getting teased through all of middle school and I bet high school too. I sound like a grown ass man lol.L1250 said:
My conversation skills usually involved snide remarks which then leads to a conversation which I have no part in.
Coincidentally, I also have a friend by the same name like that. You're not me from an alternate universe/time, are you? I'll know if you are! I'm a terrible liar!jockslap said:
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@"spreading her legs": No, you don't have to butter it up, but yes, it was incredibly foul. I take an offense to it because you made it sound like that's how all girls are, and that's a bunch of shite. There are some stupid, stupid girls out there who think that "The Hills" is really how life is, and they aren't worth even a little bit of your attention. If you honestly can't talk sense into this girl that you want but doesn't see you that way, than aren't you just as hung up on her as she is on whatever jerk she goes back to?
On a slighted related note, while you guys call it cuddle *****, it's really emotional attachment. Psychobabble: women seek emotional relationships, using people as sounding boards and talking about personal issues primarily. Men tend to have more "action" relationships, centered on mutual activities (gaming, sports, w/e). When was the last time any of you had a heart-to-heart with a guy friend about things like these irl? It usually doesn't happen, and when you do start talk to a woman you like about emotional things, it's something important, novel, she's got to know I like her now! But for her it's just...normal. Unless you upfront present yourself as a suitor (for lack of a better term) you'll be filed into that friend category (which does exist, with a few subcategories haha).
Also, real studies prove that men are more likely to have an idealized opinion of love, and fall in love easier, and women weigh in other factors as more important (financial security, safety being near the top)
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@"spreading her legs": No, you don't have to butter it up, but yes, it was incredibly foul. I take an offense to it because you made it sound like that's how all girls are, and that's a bunch of shite. There are some stupid, stupid girls out there who think that "The Hills" is really how life is, and they aren't worth even a little bit of your attention. If you honestly can't talk sense into this girl that you want but doesn't see you that way, than aren't you just as hung up on her as she is on whatever jerk she goes back to?
On a slighted related note, while you guys call it cuddle *****, it's really emotional attachment. Psychobabble: women seek emotional relationships, using people as sounding boards and talking about personal issues primarily. Men tend to have more "action" relationships, centered on mutual activities (gaming, sports, w/e). When was the last time any of you had a heart-to-heart with a guy friend about things like these irl? It usually doesn't happen, and when you do start talk to a woman you like about emotional things, it's something important, novel, she's got to know I like her now! But for her it's just...normal. Unless you upfront present yourself as a suitor (for lack of a better term) you'll be filed into that friend category (which does exist, with a few subcategories haha).
Also, real studies prove that men are more likely to have an idealized opinion of love, and fall in love easier, and women weigh in other factors as more important (financial security, safety being near the top)
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