Poll: are games workshop losing touch

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konor77

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to start off I'm a massive warhammer 40k fan. But i've noticed that warhammer models seem to be getting worse and worse value-wise. But today i got the latest white dwarf and it was about tyranids (the army i use) and i noticed the new battleforce has all the same models as the last one except this one doesn't have a carnifex ( a 35 euro model) and costs 85 euro rather than 80. this might not seem like much to you but if your a 16 year old that gets 25 euro a week thats a huge differnce. this was the last straw for me and although i will continue to play 40k i will now exclusively get my models online. i want to know if other people feel the same way i do about these prices which i simply can't aford
 

wooty

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I dont get it myself, had a friend once pay near £300 on 40k models, he near enough never went near them after it, 2 years later, he still hasnt
 

Dyp100

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Nope...I mean, they cost more..But still.

Not losing there touch quality wise, or fluff wise (that just NEED to advance the plot) but they are now a soul-less company, even if 40k has a very nice and tight community, having been part of some great 40k forums in my time.

I'm not sure what you mean by them losing there touch really, yes, there charging a lot, but. -Shrug- I kinda stopped buying the models, more in it for the book these days, since the fluff is just...Pure awesomesauce.
 

TimeLord

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I have given up on 40k due to the cost, just play the PC games now

Dyp100 said:
they just NEED to advance the plot
But advancing the plot would unbalance everything. Unstoppable Necrons devouring world, unstoppable Tyranids devouring worlds until there be nothing left and only two armies on an endless war
 

dragontiers

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Gamesworkshop is not loosing touch, they've been steadily increasing price while decreasing the value of the items for years. Originally, all Warhammer/Warhammer 40K models were metal models. Now, 90% of newer models are plastic. And yes, they are going up in price. Also, they are constantly re-printing the army books. They currently have it on a cycle, printing a new army book every so often, and then when they've printed a book for each army, printing a new "edition", obsoleting the older figures/books. Each cycle they change about half the figures, and usually enough of the core units so you have to buy all new ones if you want to stay current. It's a loosing battle trying to keep up. Warhammer is not for the light of pocketbook.
 

Pyotr Romanov

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konor77 said:
16 year old that gets 25 euro a week
Oh my god... You get that much? It's only a year difference and I get a whopping 6 euros a week...

OT: I used to be into Warhammer too,but I guess I just kind of grew out of it. So I didn't know they were getting even more expansive...
 

annoyinglizardvoice

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They've always been a bit on the greedy side, but I don't think any more-so now than a few years ago. Prices of a lot of stuff are on the up.
I just keep using my old mins and only buy the ones that really interest me or have other rpg uses.
 

Aunel

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still play it every Saturday with friends at the store,
although it isn't cheap :(

(worth it though)
 

ottenni

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I don't know about the models getting worse. When i got started i avoided Orks and guard like the plague because i though the models looked utterly terrible. Now i am a devoted guard player.
 

Joe_Fitzsimmons

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yeah
it all went to shit when they became a publicly traded company, then the bottom line became about profits.
to be fair to them they are quiet smart with what they do, theyr sitting on a gold mine.
 

Wadders

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I stopped getting GW stuff when I realised it was more money than it was worth. They lost touch several years ago.

I only really enjoyed making, converting and painting the models anyway. I am tempted to make a IG army for the hell of it, but I know, in my heart, that it'll never happen, due to their extortionate prices.
 

Soxafloppin

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I never got the whole model thing. I allways glance into the shop when i walk past it though. The people in it allways make me giggle.
 

Insanum

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I never had the cash to get into them, And now i do, I realise they area pointless waste of time.
 

Zykon TheLich

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I played 40K i8n the early 90's and it was pretty expensive back then, but I recently walked into a GW store just to have a look for old times sake and nearly had a heart attack. IMO it all started to go wrong in 1993 when there was a management buyout and they started to aim their products at a younger audience*. The models these days look a bit OTT and cartoonish, some are quite cool though, I bought a squad of Dark Angels veterans to paint for a brief distraction.

That said, it's not the price that put me off, it was all the time you have to spend painting them. When you are 14 you suddenly realise that time spent inside painting little lumps of lead is time not spent with girls, and the less time spent with girls the less chance you have of getting into their knickers.

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*Not to mention they've racked up the danger levels with each new race/edition so that now there are so many superawesomeunstoppableforcesofdoom bearing down on the human race that it's impossible to rack up the tension anymore...which is good in a way, because that is a pretty hackneyed way of getting people interested in your little story/universe etc and it gets pretty stale and offputting after a while. Unfortunately it seems that that is all GW are capable of doing, or perhaps that's the level of sophistication they think their customer base has (teenagers like GRIMDARK yeah?).

As already mentioned, it also means it's impossible to advance the 'story' anymore, but that's what you get when you start tacking bits of history and fluff to a fantasy setting, it wasn't really a story to begin with, but now people expect one, even though you've built up the setting to the point that advancing it's 'story' would mean trashing it (according to all the hype you've built up around the superawesomeunstoppableforcesofdoom bearing down on the human race).
 

konor77

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[quote="Dyp100" post="18.162602.4176268"
Shrug- I kinda stopped buying the models, more in it for the book these days, since the fluff is just...Pure awesomesauce.[/quote]
i probably spend twice as much on 40k books as 40k minatures