Poll: Are human beings born good or evil?

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Twilight_guy

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Humans are born innocent. Eventually we are imprinted on by society and form our self by our reaction to that imprint. I never met a baby who wasn't innocent and until I do my theory holds.
 

comet5002

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I think you've been playing a tad too much moral choice style video games. Take any psychology class. People are born as blank slates, they get their morals and way of life through their parents or guardians who raised them. How they're raised is who they are. If I'm raised to think that slaughtering 20 people every week is perfectly acceptable, and nothing interferes with that notion, then I'm going to think it's perfectly acceptable.
 

Mcupobob

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Kortney said:
Mcupobob said:
Neither, their not born with an idea or senese of right or wrong. Blank slates.
Whilst they definitely aren't born with in built morals - human beings are not blank slates. We know enough to come to the conclusion that a portion of a child's mental behavior and reaction will come through the parents.
You mean that the blank slates get their morals and ethics/ideals instilled into them by their parents. The same parents that take that blank slate and rise it?

Yup, inless of course you ment "We know enough to not come to the conclusion." Then I apoligize it was just a misunderstanding.

Other than that I don't think human beings don't start making their own morals intill around 15, but thats just a guesstamation.

Other than mental defects, I belive were all blank slates still just trying to learn to live and get the basics down.
 

Bon_Clay

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Good and evil are human inventions, so applying them to people is always based on opinion. Hitler can be good and Gandhi can be evil from someone's point of view. So you can't really say either.

As for what the majority's opinion would be, I guess just a split between nature and nurture with maybe a slight edge for the latter. People have genetic traits they inherit, but their life can have a big influence and make them overwrite parts of their personality.
 

oktalist

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UnwishedGunz said:
I believe that humans are born with a scale with both good and evil balanced at 50%, everytime that person does something good the balance shifts to the good side. when they do something bad the balance shifts to the evil side
Oh wowzer, so it turns out that the karma meters in Fable and Mass Effect are actually totally realistic, not completely retarded as they first appeared to be. /sarcasm

No, nobody can even agree on what good and evil actually are, so arguing about how they are created or exhibited is a fruitless endeavour. And even if we could agree on their definitions, they certainly wouldn't be a one-dimensional slider.

Go watch this [http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/extra-credits/1974] and tell me which is the good choice and which is the evil choice.

Then tell me which is the good choice and which is the evil choice here: you are the first to arrive at a car crash. The car may explode at any moment. Inside it is a little girl and her elderly grandfather. The man's injuries suggest he has a 90% chance of survival. The girl's injuries are more severe and she has more like a 50% chance of survival if rescued immediately. Who do you rescue first?
 

Death God

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Defiantly pure state. I believe that everyone is born with zero on their slate and the instant they breath air, God starts counting every good or bad.
 

Grand_Arcana

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Cheveyo said:
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Cheveyo said:
Yep, you need to teach a person to act civil.
You don't need to teach them to kill each other. That comes natural.

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Oh, and who was the genius that invented civility hmm? Because if civility exists today, it must have come from a fellow human.
Yes, it came from a person. It had to be taught to the rest.
It was adopted because it helped the species survive. We wouldn't have survived if we slaughtered each other all the time. However, as humans we're more prone to do so unless we have someone to lead us and tell us differently.
So yes, it was an idea that we weren't born with, that we got taught by people who decided it was a good idea to live by.

Why do you think people needed to have things like the 10 commandments?
It sure as hell wasn't because we're all nice people and know how to conduct ourselves without someone else to lead us. People needed those 10 rules or else they'd be doing all those things they're told not to. They see a person whose spouse they want, so they kill the person to get the spouse. They see a person whose house they want, so they kill the person and take their house. You are in my way and disagree with my point of view, so I kill you to remove you. Now nobody opposes me, nobody is there to disagree.
We, as humans, are more likely to take the easy/evil route than the "moral" one. It's far easier to take revenge on those who harmed us than it is to keep our head held high and let them go.
For those commandments to have worked, people must have voluntarily given up their individual power. Long story short: laws only work if there are people that are willing to follow and enforce them. If people disagreed with the law, and would rather do as they please, the commandments would not have been preserved as they have.

There's really no such thing as good and evil. Just organization and chaos. Humans, like many other social animals, are likely to establish hierarchy in a group. We see similar group dynamics among wolves. Most felines, on the other hand, are solitary creatures that only answer to themselves and their mothers without fighting. "Laws" are just what we call our system of hierarchy. Cooperation and civilization are in our genes. If we disagree with our current society, we revolt and create a new one.
 

lacktheknack

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If you left them be, they'd do selfish things, which inevitably turns out as evil in the long run.

Not what you would expect from Tabula Rasa.
 

Estocavio

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Evil - In the definition at least. Order and Society are things you are taught after you are born. In the period where the newborn were not shown how they should behave (Early-Mid Medieval) so happened to be one of the most disorderly, sadistic, militaristic periods in all mankinds history.
 

Dango

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Good.

It's human nature to sympathize and want to befriend others. Although that can be screwed up very easily.
 

Worgen

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Whatever, just wash your hands.
before you can ask the question you have to define good and evil
personaly I think there is no good and evil... well more of no evil since for something to be evil it has to be incapable of doing something good, in other words it can only feed a puppy if its going to use that puppy to dog fight or to eat
 

ayuri

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people can be extremely bad but still believe they are good overall there are unspoken rules that come naturally and the rest are instincts.
 

Vanguard_Ex

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I believe that some people are just born with bad souls. They're going to make life difficult or hellish for others because that is just them. The rest of us, however, are the ones that help as much as possible, and love above all else.

Why yes, I have been drinking.
 

spartan1077

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There is no evil, only different mindesets of normal. I can go kill someone and believe it was sane and for the greater good while others will prosecute me saying I'm evil. Let's use Hitler as an example. He saved Germany from opression and depression. He gave everyone jobs and could've been a great ruler. Except his mindset of good was to wipe out an entire species so he tried to do just that. Was it evil? No. Was it good? No. We are all just neutral.