Poll: Are Humans Smart?

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Copter400

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To call something smart, you have to have something not-smart to compare it to. This something, for a balanced response, must be about the same as the original something.

We have yet to discover something that comes anywhere near human levels. The closest living example, the ape, still enjoys plundering termite nests for sustenance.

In short, your question cannot be answered.
 

Bulletinmybrain

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Khedive Rex said:
Korolev said:
As a species we are generally intelligent, and a hell of a lot more intelligent than any other species on the planet. We are the only species with a complex language that has grammar and syntax. We are the only species which has extend its natural lifespan. We are the only species which have comprehended the most fundamental aspects of the universe. We are the only species with philosophy, advanced morality and science. We are the only species which has ANY prospect of self-improvement.
Actually, dolphins and whales communicate with a more complicated language than we do according to a lot of studies.

Countless species have extended their natural life span by adapting to better live around humans. Whether this involves pretending to be dogs (in the case of wolves) so people will give you food, patroling with three people intead of two (in the case of racoons) to ease the act of stealing food, or just making yourself look cuter and more cuddly while around humans (in the case of pigs who before domestication had tusks and wiry hair and now look mostly harmless) so that humans will get rid of all your parasites and generally make your life more pleasent, species are extending their life spans all the time.

As for not grasping the basics how the earth works, Racoons perfer to wash the food they find before they eat it. There would be no reason to do this except to remove germs. Ants build boats which are capable of crossing things like the Mississippi River, I think they would understand properties like boyancy and displacement. There are also the countless species (Crows, Monkeys, ect) who know to use things like gravity in problem solving.

As for animal morality I would point out that just because we don't recognize it doesn't mean it's not there. We can't get people to agree on what is morally correct even amoungst our own species (and there is often violent disagreement on this particular issue), how would we be able to discern what other species view as morally sound or how would we even know that their species had come to any kind of concensus? that being said though, Elephants have grave yards and mourn their dead and it would be impossible to name all the speicies that put the life of their children before their own.

And evolution gaurantees self improvment. All species are subject to evolution and therefore all species have some prospect of self improvement.

I once sat down and tried to make a list of all the things that empiraclly seperated Humanity from the animal kingdom. The only things I could think of were that humans create things for entertainment and have currency. Looking back I'm not entirely sure that those are unique to humans either.

Woudn't all the above be adaption? The pigs lost the tusks because they became useless on farms and the hair became useless wince farms usually arn't in the cold and they are given a place to sleep. The pigs did not decide to lose the tusks they were used less and less and they then lost it completely. The appendix is not useless. We have just adapted past its usefulness. Intelligence is being able to communicate

Intelligence - the ability to comprehend; to understand and profit from experience


Thats what we do. Just some do those less. We can understand each other, We can comprehend and adjust to what we know. Like from what we have heard and experience we change. We are not creatures of instinct no longer we have evolved past that. We now make choices on what we know, Whats likely to happen and etc.
 
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Bulletinmybrain said:
We are not creatures of instinct no longer we have evolved past that. We now make choices on what we know, Whats likely to happen and etc.
*cough* *cough* *cough*

Right...

Tell your mum that there's a bread shortage and see how many loaves appear in your freezer.

We'll always be creatures of instinct; we've just found a definition of intelligence that puts us at the top.
 

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Lanczos said:
Firstly: We are not the smartest. Dolphins are smarter than us which makes them the second smartest creatures an this planet. First place in case of smartiness are the mice! Diddn't you read D. Adams Hitchhikers Guide?
Dolphins may be more complex but i have yet to see a dolphin build a city.
 

nickkcin

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meh, i suppose we built computers, a.k.a my life.... kidding, my life does NOT revolve around the pc... i have a ps3 too
 

Bulletinmybrain

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The_root_of_all_evil said:
Bulletinmybrain said:
We are not creatures of instinct no longer we have evolved past that. We now make choices on what we know, Whats likely to happen and etc.
*cough* *cough* *cough*

Right...

Tell your mum that there's a bread shortage and see how many loaves appear in your freezer.
Instincts can not be learned. The above is actually intelligence because she would react on what she knows.

Instincts are more along the lines of you must eat every day or your body may be starved. To crap someplace other then where you drink stuff like that. Unspoken things your body instantly does without you having to actually put forth effort.

We'll always be creatures of instinct; we've just found a definition of intelligence that puts us at the top.
 

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I was going to say yes, but then it occurred to me, "Why, yes, there are indeed people arguing that humans, as a race, are stupid."



I don't know about you guys, but generally, when someone asks me "Are you stupid?" I say no.

I don't agree and then give them reasons why.

Or maybe I do.

Darn it.
 

Bulletinmybrain

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infernovolver said:
A person is smart, more or less. Humans are not.
So what you are saying is we have the capacity to be intelligent but humans a lone are not born smart. You sir use logic. You are smart.
 

lanostos

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Well, I am utterly disgusted at the elitism than some of the posters displayed. Actually it was as extreme as talking about the human race like if they weren't part of it. I can't really feature that. When you think about it, there's a boatload of elitism all around this site anyways. There has to be a complex of something...somewhere.
 

infernovolver

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Not exactly. But I'll take the compliment. What I'm saying is a person can have their individual views, knowledge, so on and so forth, but collectively, humanity does not utilize this knowledge in a way that could be considered smart. Humanity is an egotistical, destructive, uncaring, ignorant species. While knowledge is among them, collectively, they do not use this intellect to the ultimate potential it should be used for. Thus, they harm each other, themselves, other species, the environment, and inevitably will cause their own destruction.

Oh yeah, to lanostos, if it was as extreme as talking about the human race as if they weren't apart of it? Not exactly like I don't realize I'm human, I'm more of a misanthropist myself.
 

Caboose669

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Humans are intelligent, defiantly, just look at what we've managed to accomplish.

But Smart ? I don't bloody think so. Take smoking as a fair example. Everyone knows it's bad for you, and yet, in full knowledge that it'll make you pretty damn sick in later life, people are still puffing away 220/30 a day.

So no, people are not smart.
 

Flunk

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Define smart... By my definition, which is "smarter than me" I would say on average... No. If your definition is something like "able to speak" then the answer is probably yes but then you are on my list of people who don't qualify as smart.
 
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Bulletinmybrain said:
Instincts can not be learned. The above is actually intelligence because she would react on what she knows.

Instincts are more along the lines of you must eat every day or your body may be starved. To crap someplace other then where you drink stuff like that. Unspoken things your body instantly does without you having to actually put forth effort.
OK...so you can't learn that in a combat situation you get the hell out of the way immediately?
Fire a gun in a crowd and see how few do anything but go "Uhhh?"; only the trained soldiers will immediately go for cover.

Intelligence would be to question if there was actually a food shortage. Simply storing food is instinctual.

And as for the 'Don't crap where you eat', Cats know that. However, a number of African villages don't. And Dogs don't care because they're also coprovores.

What is unspoken for us maybe perfectly acceptable for others; that's the nub of how you can't judge intelligence.
Countries with a mostly rural population will score lower on IQ tests because they don't have the abundance of straight lines that are a main component to 'normal' IQ tests.
In visual tests that rely on camouflage though, they'll score a lot higher than we would.
 

Solo508

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Humans suck and I'm ashamed to be one. We are violent, greedy and selfish creatures. :)