Poll: Are you a Camper

[JonnoStrife]

No. Not at all. I lack the patience required to sit still and wait for people to come to me.

This.

 

[RUINER ACTUAL]

Easy question.

If you do, you ruin the game.

(Sniping is camping by nature, and that is how you use the weapon, so you do not count. This refers to when you are using anything except a sniper rifle.)

Ambushing is also not camping. Waiting until someone goes past and shooting them in the back with ANY weapon is a perfectly valid tactic in both games and real life, and many FPS games are filled with hidey holes so you can do exactly this.

The term "camping" originates from the days of Doom and Quake, where someone would sit at one spot where an item that gave them an obvious advantage (a good weapon, quad damage, extra armour) would always respawn. So people would say "you're there so often you might as well pitch a tent", hence "camping." Camping is about exploiting the mechanics of the map in a way that doesn't translate to real-life gunplay, it is NOT about hiding and them shooting someone in the back. That's just intelligent FPS play and it's the other person's fauilt for not checking his blind spots.

Camping is also not about sitting at somewhere like a capture point and defending it. That's just intelligent defense that anyone with a brain should do.

good explanation. ive had some moments while trying to crawl through some grass on a map when someone walks past i stand up and gun them down. then i have to run away, because the position is compromised.

Exactly. If you use that spot over and over, people will just spread the world that you're there and lob grenades in it or continually snipe you from across the field or whatever. So in this sense you can see that hiding isn't camping because tactically it's not unfair. It's actually a disadvantage to stay in the one spot if there's nothing that the game is going to hand you for staying there (like a powerup or whatever).

In MW2 the game doesnt give you weapons/powerups, so anyone camping IS just there for cheap kills. Moving up slow, choosing your position and hiding for a few moments isnt camping. I've seen teams never leave their spawn because of an A-symmetric map they can camp.

But you do now have the people who will change their position SLIGHTLY so you cant kill them in their previous position.

 

[Deleric]

Yes, camping is very fun. Marsh mellows, bears and all that jazz.

 

[Laxman9292]

camping is a legit, period. just like how any and all weapons are legit, any and all perks are legit,and any and all techniques are legit, any and all strategies are legit.

Is that it? or do you want to explain that statement a little?
I think that guns like the m16 are n00bish because they take little to no skill. it basically turns a FPS into a point and click game, i do not include snipers in this because they take skill because they are only effective at a certain range and quick, and no scoping are pure luck and if you dispute that you are simply wrong. whereas if you have an m16 you have the finger of god from any range and any point on any map, especially with stopping power. totally breaks the balance of the game
Same for n00b tubes.

 

[UnkeptBiscuit]

What I hate are the people in MewTwo who sit where there's no light, so that even if you were to check you wouldn't see them. In fact, you don't even have time to check, because as soon as you enter the hallway, they pull the trigger and you're dead. I know I could just get them in the next life, and I do. It's just because of the killstreaks that I get annoyed. I'll have a good streak going, turn a corner, and before I know it I'm dead thanks to some no-talent camper. I'd be a lot less annoyed if death didn't have that sort of penalty.

 

[chozo_hybrid]

I don't mind them I guess, I don't do it often at all. The only thing that really sets me off and this happened to me more then once was getting killed by campers mere seconds after you've spawned for a whole match.

That was 10 mins of me not playing a game I was involved in...

 

[Blatherscythe]

well, if you camp to make an ambush with others it doesn't count either, cause that's called Guerilla Strategy.

remember in war there's no rules, only the cunning survives.

Well said.

 

[ModsDeleteThisAccountPlease]

Another Mewtoo thread? Here I was thinking we were going to have an educated discussion on the virtues of camping in real life. Oh well.

Camping? Yes, I do camp. It's a legitimate strategy so stop bitching and get over it. Instead of wasting time, creating a thread dedicated to camping. Instead, find some ways to counteract the camper. May I suggest grenades?

 

[BonsaiK]

Easy question.

If you do, you ruin the game.

(Sniping is camping by nature, and that is how you use the weapon, so you do not count. This refers to when you are using anything except a sniper rifle.)

Ambushing is also not camping. Waiting until someone goes past and shooting them in the back with ANY weapon is a perfectly valid tactic in both games and real life, and many FPS games are filled with hidey holes so you can do exactly this.

The term "camping" originates from the days of Doom and Quake, where someone would sit at one spot where an item that gave them an obvious advantage (a good weapon, quad damage, extra armour) would always respawn. So people would say "you're there so often you might as well pitch a tent", hence "camping." Camping is about exploiting the mechanics of the map in a way that doesn't translate to real-life gunplay, it is NOT about hiding and them shooting someone in the back. That's just intelligent FPS play and it's the other person's fauilt for not checking his blind spots.

Camping is also not about sitting at somewhere like a capture point and defending it. That's just intelligent defense that anyone with a brain should do.

good explanation. ive had some moments while trying to crawl through some grass on a map when someone walks past i stand up and gun them down. then i have to run away, because the position is compromised.

Exactly. If you use that spot over and over, people will just spread the world that you're there and lob grenades in it or continually snipe you from across the field or whatever. So in this sense you can see that hiding isn't camping because tactically it's not unfair. It's actually a disadvantage to stay in the one spot if there's nothing that the game is going to hand you for staying there (like a powerup or whatever).

In MW2 the game doesnt give you weapons/powerups, so anyone camping IS just there for cheap kills. Moving up slow, choosing your position and hiding for a few moments isnt camping. I've seen teams never leave their spawn because of an A-symmetric map they can camp.

But you do now have the people who will change their position SLIGHTLY so you cant kill them in their previous position.

That's not "camping", that's just picking a strategic defense location and defending it.

If they change their position slightly, that just means they're smart.

If the map is asymmetrical... well, war is also asymmetrical, more often than not. Just means you are at a disadvantage and you have to think and act smart to beat your superiorly-positioned dug-in opponents. Good teamwork and communication is usually what wins any FPS battle at the end of the day, the ones who lose and complain about "camping" are the unstrategic Rambo-mode crowd who won't communicate with teammates and expect to win on skills alone.

 

[userwhoquitthesite]

camping is a legit, period. just like how any and all weapons are legit, any and all perks are legit,and any and all techniques are legit, any and all strategies are legit.

True, but it doesn't make you any less of a talentless douche.

See, this is how I look at it. People using "cheap" strategy are TRUE Americans and everyone else is a form-ranks redcoat. When you decry a particular mode of play as unsporting, you are asking everyone to obey some sort of "rules of combat" malarkey. America was won with assassination kills and camping! Lots and lots of camping. Mostly at Valley Forge.

 

[e2density]

No. I feel like I am not doing anything that takes skill if I sit in a corner and farm kills that way. And I like moving around, run 'n' gun type things.

I occasionally in matches, do camp outside enemy respawns to kill enemy medics right as they spawn, but that isn't full blown camping.

 

[ModsDeleteThisAccountPlease]

hah and here i was thinking that someone on the escapest went real life camping other than me. now pm me with messages on how i shouldent be talking and how i have no life and no girlfriend.

Nah, because camping in real life is awesome. High five, fellow woodsman!

 

[azncutthroat]

camping is a legit, period. just like how any and all weapons are legit, any and all perks are legit,and any and all techniques are legit, any and all strategies are legit.

True, but it doesn't make you any less of a talentless douche.

See, this is how I look at it. People using "cheap" strategy are TRUE Americans and everyone else is a form-ranks redcoat. When you decry a particular mode of play as unsporting, you are asking everyone to obey some sort of "rules of combat" malarkey. America was won with assassination kills and camping! Lots and lots of camping. Mostly at Valley Forge.

Or that camping is indie and "other tactics" mainstream. You make a good point there, sir.

 

[userwhoquitthesite]

camping is a legit, period. just like how any and all weapons are legit, any and all perks are legit,and any and all techniques are legit, any and all strategies are legit.

True, but it doesn't make you any less of a talentless douche.

See, this is how I look at it. People using "cheap" strategy are TRUE Americans and everyone else is a form-ranks redcoat. When you decry a particular mode of play as unsporting, you are asking everyone to obey some sort of "rules of combat" malarkey. America was won with assassination kills and camping! Lots and lots of camping. Mostly at Valley Forge.

Or that camping is indie and "other tactics" mainstream. You make a good point there, sir.

Why thank you sir. Consider yourself invited to Madmen in Tophats!

 

[Brad Shepard]

only once in a blue moon in FFA, and only in MW2

 

[Nex-Falx]

Only when the other team is doing it...

Don't know how that logic works, but it does... try it some time...