I think the inherent hilarity of the statement "Not too fond of feminists or feminism. Wouldn't date one given the choice," stands on it's own. Any further commentary from me would just cheapen the moment.KingsGambit said:
Poll: Are you a feminist?
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Isn't that just being a humanitarian?Nasrin said:
OT: I like to categorize feminists into 2 sub categories, Equalists and Extremists. Pretty simple to guess what the differences are. I am neither, just want equal rights for everyone not for one specific group of people.
I'm more than that, actually. Allow me to quote Erich Fromm, he describes a viewpoint that is the same as mine:
Actually, I would prefer it if no genders existed at all -- but since that is impossible, I think we should stop making any difference between them.
We shouldn't try to "negotiate" between the sexes. Right now, we act as if they were two seperate factions that need to be held equal. Nobody should care at all whether most leading people are men, or women, or whatever else. The best people should be the leader, regardless of gender. We shouldn't care about gender at all, apart from reproductive purposes.
I don't know about you -- but I refuse to let certain behaviours be forced upon me just because I am male.
tl;dr: There are no psychological differences whatsoever between the sexes, all differences that do exist are due to our culture.
Actually, I would prefer it if no genders existed at all -- but since that is impossible, I think we should stop making any difference between them.
We shouldn't try to "negotiate" between the sexes. Right now, we act as if they were two seperate factions that need to be held equal. Nobody should care at all whether most leading people are men, or women, or whatever else. The best people should be the leader, regardless of gender. We shouldn't care about gender at all, apart from reproductive purposes.
I don't know about you -- but I refuse to let certain behaviours be forced upon me just because I am male.
Like people have said before, I support women having equal rights/opportunities/etc., but I'm not so sure if I'd call myself a feminist (mostly due to the fact that it can be defined several different ways, and because I don't want to be associated with some people who do call themselves feminists).
Which is weird since I'm by all means a woman. Oh well, that wouldn't be the first thing that's wired wrong with me.
Which is weird since I'm by all means a woman. Oh well, that wouldn't be the first thing that's wired wrong with me.
I think it's just a gaming thing. For whatever reason game-related things tend to swing a little conservative. The Escapist is one of the least bad gaming forums I've seen for this, actually - most ppl here aren't actively hostile towards women, and there's not a lot of homophobia.Shanicus said:
No, because I think it is utterly absurd, and contradictory, to think that advocating the rights of one sex will bring equality to both. I am an advocate of equal rights, not an advocate of simply "women's rights" and I refuse to be labelled in such a narrow manner.
That's something I agree with. And also, while I agree we should take those last couple of steps and finish equalizing pay cheques, and whatnot, I wouldn't really focus on feminism at this stage because it's something that is a bit of a back burner issue compared to racism, crime, etc that have some more immediately pressing concerns. In rough terms, the sexes are basically equal, so we can afford to relax a little.Jonluw said:
Of course I'm a feminist. As for people who say they are reluctant to call themselves feminists because of negative association; Do you refuse to call yourself a gamer because some ill informed people consider all gamers to be basement dwelling losers? No? So why refrain from calling yourself a feminist just because some dumbcunts refuse to educate themselves about the meaning behind it and let their perception be coloured by sensationalist media? If they are misinformed about the definition of feminism the onus is on them to educate themselves.
I see. Well actually I don't, but am glad you found it funny, whatever it is. o.oKahunaburger said:
I am a human, not simply a tall human, and I refuse to be labeled in such a narrow manner as "tall."RagTagBand said:
It never ceases to amaze me how many people who consider themselves progressive or forward-thinking drink the reactionary/conservative kool-aid re: feminism.manic_depressive13 said:
I am a feminist according to the dictionary definition you included in your post.
I do not see myself as a feminist because of all the hardcore factions of feminists that try to make it more extreme than what it needs to be. Feminism pretty much gives me the "all men are pigs" kinda view which I think is as bad as being misogynistic since it's clearly as sexist as saying women belong in the kitchen.
Feminism is a bad word for those who want gender equality since the word is a derivative of the word for women making it sound like it is in favour of women rather than a matter of equality. I also want to say that we can't have complete equality since men and women are different. If equality means we are going to ignore the fact that there's no difference between men and women then I'm against it. We aren't equal because because of our biology. Let us be as equals in sociology, give us the same opportunities, the same rights because that is something we can change. We can't make a man give birth, but we can have a man who works as a nurse, we can have a woman as a leader, we can have men who clean the house and take care of children.
I do not see myself as a feminist because of all the hardcore factions of feminists that try to make it more extreme than what it needs to be. Feminism pretty much gives me the "all men are pigs" kinda view which I think is as bad as being misogynistic since it's clearly as sexist as saying women belong in the kitchen.
Feminism is a bad word for those who want gender equality since the word is a derivative of the word for women making it sound like it is in favour of women rather than a matter of equality. I also want to say that we can't have complete equality since men and women are different. If equality means we are going to ignore the fact that there's no difference between men and women then I'm against it. We aren't equal because because of our biology. Let us be as equals in sociology, give us the same opportunities, the same rights because that is something we can change. We can't make a man give birth, but we can have a man who works as a nurse, we can have a woman as a leader, we can have men who clean the house and take care of children.
Yes, I am, because I believe that men and women should be treated equally under the law.
I'm always sure to distinguish between feminists (whom I tend to agree with) and feminazis (who are crazy).
I can't say that I've done much to advocate, since men and women are already pretty much equal under the law. I have joined several support groups for women, though, despite being male.
I have, though, done much in support of men's/father's rights, as men are currently screwed over in the legal system compared to women in many instances, particularly in custody cases and with alimony. The reason I am more vocal about this issue, aside from being male and afraid of being screwed over, is because many people (feminists included) don't recognize this problem or, worse, are okay with this blatant sexism.
I'm always sure to distinguish between feminists (whom I tend to agree with) and feminazis (who are crazy).
I can't say that I've done much to advocate, since men and women are already pretty much equal under the law. I have joined several support groups for women, though, despite being male.
I have, though, done much in support of men's/father's rights, as men are currently screwed over in the legal system compared to women in many instances, particularly in custody cases and with alimony. The reason I am more vocal about this issue, aside from being male and afraid of being screwed over, is because many people (feminists included) don't recognize this problem or, worse, are okay with this blatant sexism.
I want equality among the sexes, sure. If that means that I'm defined as feminist, then I guess I am! I hadn't really thought of being called a feminist myself until now. I figured it should be taken as default that you wanted equality, and you would identify otherwise. I mean, it is 2012, right?
I get slightly stroppy and uncomfortable whenever someone says something sexist; sometimes I even make a non-committal comment; does that count?