Poll: Are you a feminist?

[Skratt]

I've always understood there are two basic types of feminists - those that think certain things are an exploitation of women and those that think a woman can do whatever the fuck she wants as long as she wants to do it and it is within her means to do so. I am more in line with the later and while I have never actively protested I try not to keep quiet if the issue comes up.

 

[MeTheMe]

I think the primary problem in most discussions like this is a lack of understanding. Many people will say they don't like Feminism because they want to be superior. That's Misandary, not Feminism, which is just after equal rights. People say Feminists are radical, but in my experience that's a vocal minority. I don't think think there's anything inherently wrong with Feminism, but people need to know what they're talking about. I want equal rights for women just like men, so by definition, that makes me feminist, doesn't it?

 

[maturin]

45% aren't advocates for equal rights for the sexes? Wow, you really are pigs.

 

[Cheesepower5]

45% aren't advocates for equal rights for the sexes? Wow, you really are pigs.

I think the majority who voted no did so because they do not like identifying as a feminist, not because they don't support equality. While I agree with that sentiment, I voted yes as solely within the boundaries of the poll question and the provided term definitions it is where I fall.

I think the more accurate statement would be 45% don't take polls literally.

 

[Dasick]

I think the primary problem in most discussions like this is a lack of understanding. Many people will say they don't like Feminism because they want to be superior. That's Misandary, not Feminism, which is just after equal rights. People say Feminists are radical, but in my experience that's a vocal minority. I don't think think there's anything inherently wrong with Feminism, but people need to know what they're talking about. I want equal rights for women just like men, so by definition, that makes me feminist, doesn't it?

I don't understand the need to invent many confusing and vague words to mean "treating each person fairly"(or not).

 

[Eveonline100]

45% aren't advocates for equal rights for the sexes? Wow, you really are pigs.

or alternatively a fair amount of people mis interpret what feminism is (the belief women should be equal). truthfully a fair amount of people don't like to identify as feminism due to all the different connotations related to word depending on who you talk to(and the many different shades of it). While i do believe in equal rights for all people and hope to 1 day live in star trek world in which race, sex, sexuality are non issues. i don't identify as a feminist due to the all various ways that can be interpreted. I.e.
Guy A: So your an feminist eh so you hate men when you yourself are a man?
Guy B: So your an feminist, what that means you want to see men emasculated?
Guy C: So your an feminist, that means you want equal rights between men and women but don't like sex?
Guy D: So you an feminist, which means you just want the sexes to be equal right?
Truthfully i'll say a fair amount of the 45% simply misinterpret the general meaning of the word and group behind the word or do want their to be equal rights they just don't want to identify as a feminism to avoid be misinterpreted as something they're not.

 

[ThunderCavalier]

I support equality of the sexes and the empowerment of women, but there are so many things associated with 'feminist' that I do not agree with that I can't honestly say that I entirely agree with being associated with them.

And, all things considered, I do, in fact, enjoy some stereotypes. The frilly girl stereotypes and the burly guy stereotypes, while some may find annoying or offensive, I find a bit enjoyable and endearing. imo, as long as you aren't showing a clear, divisive inequality between males and females, I don't mind if some stereotyping is involved. For one, I think magical girl shows (some, at least, like Puella Magi Madoka Magica) manage to show off the whole 'frilly girl aspect' while also showing off a degree of equality (and badassness).

I think the only thing I really don't like about female stereotyping is the clear objectification of women in comics. Yes, we get it. They have boobies. They don't exactly have to be a focal part of her attire, though.

 

[ninetails593]

I'll be a feminist if I can call myself a masculinist as well.

 

[maturin]

"Are you a vegetarian? No? Then you hate animals!"

Or:

"Are you an envorimentalist? No? Then you hate the enviroment!"

Or:

"Are you a liberal? No? Then you hate freedom!"

Is exactly the same thing as:

"Are you a feminist? No? Then you are sexist and hate women!"

Wrong. If you don't believe in equal rights for women, then you are sexist.

If you don't eat meat, you are a vegetarian, no matter what you call yourself.

So if you aren't a feminist, you don't believe in equal rights for women. Unless you're too dumb to read the dictionary definition at the beginning of the thread and don't understand the meaning of words, which I like to think applies to 45%. After the whole Tropes vs Women thing, though, I have my doubts.

 

[flatten_the_skyline]

Oh? A few examples? How about some reputable organizations!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Center_for_Women%27s_Global_Leadership
http://www.mavaw.org/index2.asp
http://www.sfuwomenctr.ca/faqs.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/INCITE!_Women_of_Color_Against_Violence

any organization that claims to try to end domestic violence and then goes on to say they only care about domestic violence against women, is not for equality. Yet many of these organizations and people are not only accepted in the movement, but praised. What am I to think of the movement?

The rates are about 45-55 men erring on the side of over representation, but the gap is closing, especially as men start reporting. We should be giving them help in men's shelters, not giving them scorn as others in this very thread suggest. That's why I don't support feminism.

EDIT: add these disgusting people too

http://www.nomas.org/node/107

So because organisations focus on domestic violence against women they are considered evil?
That logic would make any society to help blind people ignorant of the deaf. Domestic violence is different between the genders, and no one stops the formation of a group to support abused men.

The final group is criticising studies, using transparent sources. Though I don't like the tone of this "myth" talk, all it does is quoting scientists and essays that suggest that what you believe is wrong. I don't know if they're right, but I actually don't like to compare two evils, so no, I don't think that their article is helping much.

 

[Khazoth]

I support some feminism, but i'm not a feminist. I like to think of myself as a humanist because I support equal rights and equality for everyone. I do not, however, support most of feminism.

Let me explain, some feminists are rational people working for the betterment of their gender. They fight for things like the fact that women get payed less and unfair workplace habits and the right to breastfeed in public. All things that are perfectly okay to fight for, such is their right.




Then you have the breed of feminism that seems to exist on this forum that works on moon logic. Where no matter what a woman does they are clearly in the right. Where a woman cannot and will not get in trouble for the awful crap they say, but god forbid a man make any joke about a woman being harmed, discouraged, about her body weight or image, or anything that does not make her look flattering.


You want proof? See that video above someone posted from ABC, or perhaps go looking up reactions from women to that Lorena Bobbit incident back in the 90's.

So in closure? I believe in real feminism.

 

[itsthesheppy]

Wrong. If you don't believe in equal rights for women, then you are sexist.

If you don't eat meat, you are a vegetarian, no matter what you call yourself.

So if you aren't a feminist, you don't believe in equal rights for women. Unless you're too dumb to read the dictionary definition at the beginning of the thread and don't understand the meaning of words, which I like to think applies to 45%. After the whole Tropes vs Women thing, though, I have my doubts.

I call bullshit, as do a lot of people on this forum.

But you go on, keep believing that women are universally hated and maybe you can get a few sympathy points on the backwater of the the internet.

I'm just going to go ahead and say you're both wrong.

Saying you're not a feminist doesn't make you sexist by default. Believing that women should have anything less but completely equal rights and privileges to men would make you sexist, in my eyes.

However, I don't think anyone, even the most ardent feminists on the planet; feminist s who would look at me and see nothing less than The Oppressor, truly believes that women are 'universally hated'. Not anyone with ties to reality, in any case.

 

[axlryder]

I refuse to identify myself as feminist. I think the name sounds far too stupid. I also dislike the connotations it carries. I'm all about dem equal rights and fair treatment, though.

 

[RoBi3.0]

I support equal rights and treatment for all human beings. What does that make me?