Poll: are you some form of pagan?

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Pariah87

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Woot a thread for me. I guess I fall in the Pagan spectrum. Heathen to be as exact as I can.

Why did I become a Heathen? I remember vividly being 13 years old and my Dad filling in the census form stating that I was Christian. I hadn't been brought up to be particularly Christian, being white and English makes you a Christian by default apparently. I remember telling him I didn't believe in God, I wasn't sure what I believed in but a part of me was outright against Christianity. He didn't change the census answer which bugged me for 10 years untill I was finally able to put Pagan on this years one, hurrah! but I've strayed from the point.

It was at that point I began to seriously question what it was I believed. I spent a couple of years on and off researching various belief systems. I delved into the occult, "satanism", traditional magic and so on. I should point out aswell that I knew I wasn't an Athiest. It might be what the intelligent people do I'm sure but as any person with faith in anything will tell you, it's not something you know in your head, it's something you feel.

I discovered Wicca, first the twisted version the media portrays it as which became really popular in the early 2000's (thanks Buffy) and then the more traditional. Of course, none of the old ways today are exactly as they were, they have had to adapt to the times, so when I say traditional I mean as traditional as we can get. I realised that so much of our lives today were shaped by these beliefs, I saw how snippets survived through the ages handed down as Folklore and how to a degree those traditions and beliefs could still be relevant today.

Something still didn't feel right however, although I felt I was getting close. Asartru/Heathenry came next in my studies and everything seemed to fit into place in my mind and in my soul. These beliefs were not about control or forcing a population to behave the way you want them to, these were beliefs OF the people, which wound themselves around every aspect of their daily lives. I felt something to, a kind of full circle thing, knowing that these were the beliefs of my ancestors.

I do not practice fully, I have things I do on special days but really I feel somewhat alone. Athiests call you retarded for following any path that is not theirs, the general majority of other people simply do not understand. Most see it as ancient mythology and therefore dead, believed by those silly bearded men with horned hats (sigh). It's something that in the real world I keep very private, on the internet less so but still I don't go running round shouting it at every possible moment.

The one perception of modern day Paganism overall I would love to change is the way it is viewed as a very white power thing. Some of the aspects of course appeal to the white power/neo nazi crowd but they twist it to suit their own purpose.

What else is there to say really? If you wish to know anything else just ask.
 

mythlover20

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Witty Name Here said:
mythlover20 said:
Same here. Unfortunately for us the westboro baptist church and it's ilk are more like true christians than we like to admit. i mean, how many christians do you know have actually read their bible? Seriously. Not many. Not many at all. It's probably the most hate-filled book other than the maleas malificarum you'll find.

I'm not going on a religion bashing expedition here. I actually was a christian. i spent a great deal of time exploring it in depth at three different points of my life, at three differnt sects of the christian cult, while i was in three very different states of mind. and i was one of those who didn't read the bible. then i decided to read it. suffice to say i never called myself a christian after that.
I have to respectfully disagree on that, the WBC are as far from christians as possible, even those random folks who only go to mass on easter are more christian then them.

Christian means (from what I've heard anyways) "Christ Like", it doesn't necessarily mean knowing every ounce of Canon and all the sacraments. In fact there were even passages in the bible where Jesus 'condemned' the Pharisees for caring more about the literal interpretation of the law (in the case of that passage, they were using the whole 'You should rest on the sabbath and not work rule' as an excuse for not taking care of the poor) then about helping others. There was also a little snippit from one of the gospels that basically said "Ignore people who stand in the middle of town and preach, they aren't true christians and God wont hear them, God will hear you if you go in your house and silently pray by yourself."

So if anything, people like Ghandi who might not be "christians" yet still follow a path of pacifism and caring for your fellow man are more Christlike then people who read the gospel every day and stand at the center of town to scream at people about the different ways they're going to hell.


In my opinion, Christianity isn't about reading a book every night or memorizing canon, you could know nothing about Jesus, you could even be an Atheist, yet if you care for your fellow man and try to avoid violence, your more of a christian in my book then any of the evangelical preachers on TV.

True, you don't need to know everything by heart to follow a particular religion. That however was not the point i was making, and I am sorry I didn't make myself clear (seems I have a habit of doing that today. Meh, I'll put it down to this case of bronchitus). One can interpret a particular saying as to mean anything they like, but in a lot of cases their interpretation are not what it actually says.

You don't need to be a christian to help others. in fact being christian has absolutely NOTHING WHATSOEVER to do with being a decent person, and I respectfully resent the implication that it does. Helping someone also does not automatically make you a christian. It also implies that your not a good person if you are not a christian, which is unfortunately an accusation I have had leveled at me many times, usually by someone i was trying to help, but that's beside the point.

A lot of the passages in the bible are hatefilled and murderous in some cases. and if not they are down right contradictory. remember that little bit where i said i was a christian? those passages were the reason i abandoned it. they can be glossed over as much as anyone likes but they are there, they are part of it and were an active part in christian society for a very long time. i could go into a long discussion about how and why and how it's all interconnected throughout human history but none of us have time for me to dig up that 10,000 word thesis. Think I got a Distinction on it.

All this said and done. I could also be misinterpreting what you said. I'm sorry if this is the case. Really I am. I don't mind that we disagree. It's better that way. This is the only way we can learn from each other, and grow to respect each other's view points. and that's always a good thing. Most of us have got to agree on that.

Also apologies for the long wait for my reply. The site wouldn't let me post for a while there.
 

Owyn_Merrilin

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No, but going from the original Latin sense, I do live in a rural area; fun fact, Pagan was originally Latin for redneck. It took on its current context because people living out in the sticks held on to their old ways the longest.

Edit: I voted "no but I" because I thought there was a missing elipsis, not because I want to learn more about pagans.