Poll: Australian man acquitted of rape due to Skinny Jeans

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Moriarty

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this thread fills me with sadness =/

how can you people form an opinion over something without ANY evidence? you start raging because you read a biased BLOG POST?
 

Plazmatic

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Mcface said:
A man in Australia was recently acquitted of the rape charges he was faced with, because the defense said it would be impossible, or very unlikely he would be able to get the woman's skinny jeans down without her consent.

This is ridiculous. My girlfriend wears skinny jeans all the time, and I have no trouble getting them off. Granted, she isn't trying to fight me.. but regardless, it's easily possible. Skinny jeans are no tighter around the waist than a normal pair of jeans, they are just tighter around the thighs and legs. How the Jury didn't realize you only have to pull them down to a certain point before you have "access" is beyond me.

Fellow Escapists, what do you think? Are the charges being dropped on the account of "she was wearing skinny jeans" bogus? Or do you think it's a solid defense?

( http://www.lemondrop.com/2010/05/05/skinny-jeans-lead-to-acquittal-in-australian-rape-case/?icid=main|aim|dl8|link3|http%3A%2F%2Fwww.lemondrop.com%2F2010%2F05%2F05%2Fskinny-jeans-lead-to-acquittal-in-australian-rape-case%2F )
what people are not understanding is that there is more to this case than beats the eye, were the hell is the evidence that she even WAS raped? were the hell is the DNA evidence? If there is no evidence that she was raped then obviously there is no reason that she should be taken seriously, and its impossible to charge the accused with rape.
 

Sheaphard117

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The problem with taking a rape case to court, is that it is very hard to convict someone of doing it due to it almost always turning into a case of his word against hers, which isan't enough evidence to lock someone away.
 

Shanecooper

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We Aussies ain't to good at all that fancy thinkin' that most the rest of the world seems to have some grasp of.
 

Rolling Thunder

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While I'm used to Australia being retarded in most ways, please, could we maintain some freaking common sense here.

Woman accuses man of rape.

Man is acquitted.

Clearly, this was a piece of circumstantial evidence that probably played only a small part in the case. I mean, if there had been clear proof of rape occuring (i.e. she'd been beaten to a pulp, or that there was damage to her genitals), then he would have been convicted at a snap. As it is, this sounds like the classic case of his word vs hers, and you can't convict someone on the basis of an accusation.
 

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clicketycrack said:
*sigh* The justice system has failed yet again. I'm just waiting for dueling to back into style.
That's a little premature. I know you must hate the justice system for imprisoning so many men on false charges, only to find them innocent after they've had their lives and reputations destroyed, but there's still the possibility that he might have done it.
 

AnneSQF

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Every time I loose faith in humanity and think it can't possibly be worse some idiots finds a way to f*ck up.
 

johnman

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Th rest of the evidence must be of dubious quality if that was enough to swing it towards innocence.
No jury, no matter how stupid, will simply acquit on account of the clothes worn

Mcface said:
It seems very likely the main reason he was acquitted was because of the jeans. That is what the whole thread and article are about.
And doesnt that strike you as odd? Agsint the ream of evidence that would have been presented, the newspaper only reports that one fact, that is sure to spark controversy and debate, such as this thread?
You can rarely judge any media outlet for the full unbiased story, at the end of the day they report the story they WANT you to hear. The constant flinging of lies you see in the American media about how videogames are the cause of 90% of social problems is a great example.
 

diablomaki

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partial story inspires debate over said story which appears to be lacking.... the rest of the story
catch the whole story at never p.m. on NO station, the station that brings u parts of things
 

Karathos

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The truly hilarious thing about this topic is how I doubt anyone here has the foggiest idea about what actually happened. I read the article and what it linked to, and it barely explained anything.

All we have is a dramatic headline, and everyone gets off their rocker.
 

AnonymouZero

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Davrel said:
OK - you may find it a little crazy, but what if he was actually telling the truth and he didn't rape her? There are plenty of fucked-up women out there too (not as many as men admittedly, but still).

The law works on the basis of proving something "beyond reasonable doubt", if the prosecution can't do that, then tough.

He was found innocent by a jury of his peers and his life wasn't ruined by a (possibly) wrongful rape conviction. As far as I'm concerned, he's innocent.

EDIT: The idea of skinny jeans being a reason to let somebody of a rape charge may seem silly to you but if it convinced a jury that this man was innocent (in combination with other evidence) then that is fair and final. Just because she could remove her jeans without difficulty doesn't mean he could. -snip- removed an incorrect point here. -snip-

As for the article itself, it reeks of self-involved, entirely subjective whining.
As for "As she so astutely put it, ''Any piece of clothing can be removed with force.''" - get a fucking brain; In this case, this not only implies that he had the ability to deliver the requisite force to remove them in the first place, but that he had the additional strength to restrain a scared and panicking woman whilst doing so. Neither argument is raised in the article to any sufficient level.

In short, on a case by case basis THERE IS ALWAYS room for evidence that in other scenarios may seem ridiculous; unless you were there or have the full court transcripts then you are in a far inferior position to decide than the jury: Fact.

She calls "bullshit" on the jury's verdict - I call "bullshit" on her feeble attempts at journalism.

N.B. I'm not saying the man in question appears to be entirely innocent of all forms of harassment (unless of course she is making it ALL up), but if the jury has decided he is innocent of rape, then he is, to all intents and purposes, innocent of rape.
quoted, cuz i thought i was the only one who actually read the article... and cuz i thought the same.