what people are not understanding is that there is more to this case than beats the eye, were the hell is the evidence that she even WAS raped? were the hell is the DNA evidence? If there is no evidence that she was raped then obviously there is no reason that she should be taken seriously, and its impossible to charge the accused with rape.Mcface said:A man in Australia was recently acquitted of the rape charges he was faced with, because the defense said it would be impossible, or very unlikely he would be able to get the woman's skinny jeans down without her consent.
This is ridiculous. My girlfriend wears skinny jeans all the time, and I have no trouble getting them off. Granted, she isn't trying to fight me.. but regardless, it's easily possible. Skinny jeans are no tighter around the waist than a normal pair of jeans, they are just tighter around the thighs and legs. How the Jury didn't realize you only have to pull them down to a certain point before you have "access" is beyond me.
Fellow Escapists, what do you think? Are the charges being dropped on the account of "she was wearing skinny jeans" bogus? Or do you think it's a solid defense?
( http://www.lemondrop.com/2010/05/05/skinny-jeans-lead-to-acquittal-in-australian-rape-case/?icid=main|aim|dl8|link3|http%3A%2F%2Fwww.lemondrop.com%2F2010%2F05%2F05%2Fskinny-jeans-lead-to-acquittal-in-australian-rape-case%2F )
That's a little premature. I know you must hate the justice system for imprisoning so many men on false charges, only to find them innocent after they've had their lives and reputations destroyed, but there's still the possibility that he might have done it.clicketycrack said:*sigh* The justice system has failed yet again. I'm just waiting for dueling to back into style.
And doesnt that strike you as odd? Agsint the ream of evidence that would have been presented, the newspaper only reports that one fact, that is sure to spark controversy and debate, such as this thread?Mcface said:It seems very likely the main reason he was acquitted was because of the jeans. That is what the whole thread and article are about.
quoted, cuz i thought i was the only one who actually read the article... and cuz i thought the same.Davrel said:OK - you may find it a little crazy, but what if he was actually telling the truth and he didn't rape her? There are plenty of fucked-up women out there too (not as many as men admittedly, but still).
The law works on the basis of proving something "beyond reasonable doubt", if the prosecution can't do that, then tough.
He was found innocent by a jury of his peers and his life wasn't ruined by a (possibly) wrongful rape conviction. As far as I'm concerned, he's innocent.
EDIT: The idea of skinny jeans being a reason to let somebody of a rape charge may seem silly to you but if it convinced a jury that this man was innocent (in combination with other evidence) then that is fair and final. Just because she could remove her jeans without difficulty doesn't mean he could. -snip- removed an incorrect point here. -snip-
As for the article itself, it reeks of self-involved, entirely subjective whining.
As for "As she so astutely put it, ''Any piece of clothing can be removed with force.''" - get a fucking brain; In this case, this not only implies that he had the ability to deliver the requisite force to remove them in the first place, but that he had the additional strength to restrain a scared and panicking woman whilst doing so. Neither argument is raised in the article to any sufficient level.
In short, on a case by case basis THERE IS ALWAYS room for evidence that in other scenarios may seem ridiculous; unless you were there or have the full court transcripts then you are in a far inferior position to decide than the jury: Fact.
She calls "bullshit" on the jury's verdict - I call "bullshit" on her feeble attempts at journalism.
N.B. I'm not saying the man in question appears to be entirely innocent of all forms of harassment (unless of course she is making it ALL up), but if the jury has decided he is innocent of rape, then he is, to all intents and purposes, innocent of rape.