Well is the person with Autism happy? If yes it is not a bad thing. Also anyone can be that good just most don't have the drive to do it which is what autism sorta gives them.
Poll: Autism. Bad or Good?
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Why are people so inclined to label things? We've got labels for everyone, does it make us feel better or something?
Now your brother is labeled as an autist, as if that weren't enough you're asking random people on the internet wether that's a good or bad thing. It makes me freaking tired to see society's preoccupation with disorders and the so called cures grow. An illness and cure mentally where every problem is caused and solved by external factors. Autism isn't caused by toxins and it's definately not an illness (well, in the general sense of the word).
Autism isn't 'good' or 'bad'. Every person is different, some might be diagnosed and only notice positive "symptoms" (but then why call it a disorder?), while others may notice a lot of hinderance in their lives due to a autistic disorder. In general I believe disorders imply that someone has problems with the respective field, so yeah imo autism is restrictive for a person and hinders (problems that go beyond general angst, or girlfriend issues) them in their general life or several aspects.
Now your brother is labeled as an autist, as if that weren't enough you're asking random people on the internet wether that's a good or bad thing. It makes me freaking tired to see society's preoccupation with disorders and the so called cures grow. An illness and cure mentally where every problem is caused and solved by external factors. Autism isn't caused by toxins and it's definately not an illness (well, in the general sense of the word).
Autism isn't 'good' or 'bad'. Every person is different, some might be diagnosed and only notice positive "symptoms" (but then why call it a disorder?), while others may notice a lot of hinderance in their lives due to a autistic disorder. In general I believe disorders imply that someone has problems with the respective field, so yeah imo autism is restrictive for a person and hinders (problems that go beyond general angst, or girlfriend issues) them in their general life or several aspects.
You're not wrong, although the OP didn't sound particularly bad compared to the true raving crazies like Jenny McCarthy, who even has a website dedicated to her dangerous stupidityTheUnchosenOne said:
http://www.jennymccarthybodycount.com/Jenny_McCarthy_Body_Count/Home.html
To further play Devil's advocate here, if his brother's diagnosis happened 8 years ago, according to his profile OP would have been 10. If told by his parents/other authority figure that a vaccine was responsible for his brother's condition, most 10 year olds would accept that. It's then not a difficult leap to retain that belief years later as not everyone becomes a cynic. (But it would sure be easier if they did).
On topic, definetely a bad thing, almost all the time.
because Jenny McCarthy says it's so, and obviously she's a paragon of intelligence and reason.KnowYourOnion said:
what drives me nuts about the whole "vaccines cause autism" fallacy is that even if it were true, vaccination would *still* be better than the alternative. a fraction of a percentage of our population ends up with a mental disorder that makes them unable to integrate completely into society? or a host of diseases which collectively increase child mortality rates and lower our life expectancy to the 30s again? hmmmmmmmmmm, tough freakin' choice.
Okay, in a handful of cases, viruses can trigger the genetic abnormalities that cause cancer (though those cancers are fairly common). I was thinking final cause.Megalodon said:
Really?DELTA x WOLF said:
It's bad. It's not insurmountable, but his life would certainly be better and easier without it. Particularly given that language appears to be his fixation. How will that help him in life? Easy--a job as an interpreter, right? Except with a lack of social skills and an impaired ability to read nonverbal cues or understand social mores, someone without such complications would simply be a more likely hire.
I hope that treatment goes well for him, but I caution you against romanticizing the condition. It's not a superpower he has, it's a form of obsession. The average person could also learn all of those things, if freed from distraction in the same way. He's filling a space that most people reserve for things like interaction with other people.
Note well: I'm not speaking ill of your brother, devaluing him as a human being, or saying he has no hope in life. I'm saying you need to toss out the idea that his condition is in some way cool or to be envied. It's unfortunate, and it's certainly not a good thing.
(Oh, also, because you came to a video game site, be prepared for a mega-malillion self-diagnosed "Asperger's" cases to tell you all about how it is.)
It's not caused by medicines or anything like that so stop believing what the media throws out there.DELTA x WOLF said:
It's a gene generally a hereditary one, sometimes skips a generation or two.
And it's not so much THEY won't deal with others as much as OTHERS won't deal with them because they're "different"
so is it worth it?
all depends...
I mean if people would get over themselves and stop acting all high and mighty and treat people like that normal then the learning boost would definitely be worth it!
But being treated like a social outcast MORE then takes it's toll
so, good or bad? it itself is good; but how others react could make it bad.
To be perfectly honest, we're a social species, and we need each other, so while some individuals may thrive with their extra learning skills, without proper social skills, they can sometimes be more of a drag than a bonus. I dont mean to generalize, but social skills are far more important in the way of operating around other people in my opinion.
It really depends on how he uses what he got I guess.DELTA x WOLF said:
I know that an Autistic man heard that his jobless friend managed to get a morgaged, devoted himself entirely to finding out how morgages worked, got 10 million dollars to buy them with insurance, and managed to turn that 10 million into over a billion dollars.
It's good and bad at the same time. It's good because of the incredible knowledge in one area. It's bad because it's ONLY one area, and the poor social skills. Depends on how you want to look at it really.
1. Enough with the vaccine thing. Cite legitimate studies, or start looking for alternative causes (like, say, genetics?).
2. I'd say high-functioning autism (including Asperger's, like me (legitimately diagnosed, dastardly...)) is neutral overall. For low-functioning people who can't correct for their deficiencies, however, it's a clear negative.
2. I'd say high-functioning autism (including Asperger's, like me (legitimately diagnosed, dastardly...)) is neutral overall. For low-functioning people who can't correct for their deficiencies, however, it's a clear negative.
Maybe the healthy baby wasn?t a healthy baby. A lot of problems aren?t always apparent at first.DELTA x WOLF said:
I was in a bit of the same boat myself. My parents, and no doctors, realised there was anything particularly wrong with me till it got the point where I was having trouble learning to walk. Once I was standing up my wonky hips became apparent and not long after they discovered my curved spine among things. I was around 2 years old before they figured out what was wrong. Hell it took them that long and there was even clues that something might be wrong before that point. Mine wasn?t the smoothest of births. I was laid weirdly in the womb so mam had to have a c-section. That was a physical disability which can be much easier to spot than any sort of learning difficulty.
As a point to note, if problems aren?t immediately recognised after birth it is typically during the early stages of development they show themselves. It is also around that time when children typically have their first vaccines. It is a typical human error to think; this thing happened around the same time as this thing, ergo they must be connected. It isn?t even just a human error, other animals have fallen play to such faulty thinking.
And these are just problems that are there right from the beginning; there can be problems we are born with that don?t manifest themselves until much later on. Puberty is another time problems typically show themselves.
I think you should change the title to aspergers, not autism in general, because aspergers is generally a mild form of autism. I read somewhere that most people with aspergers are diagnosed with it after they are adults, and live reasonably normal lives even before diagnoses.
OT: People without aspergers can learn 3 languages and have good math and reading skills. When i was 10 years old, I could read at a 12th grade level, and i could probably do math at a 9th grade level too, my school only tested reading and didn't do advanced classes, but I could do simple multiplication when I was 3. Admittedly, I only speak english, but that's just because I don't care, speaking other languages would not make my life any better so I don't learn them. Well, i took spanish in High School, but that was required for college.
OT: People without aspergers can learn 3 languages and have good math and reading skills. When i was 10 years old, I could read at a 12th grade level, and i could probably do math at a 9th grade level too, my school only tested reading and didn't do advanced classes, but I could do simple multiplication when I was 3. Admittedly, I only speak english, but that's just because I don't care, speaking other languages would not make my life any better so I don't learn them. Well, i took spanish in High School, but that was required for college.