I think it would have to be a Nightwing movie, but I'm not sure how they could do that without first introducing a new Batman/Robin due, which isn't happening in the final Chris Nolan Batman movie, so you're looking at this not coming around for quite a long time.
The movie is called "Batman: Under the Red Hood" and it stars the second Robin, Jason Todd, descending into the life of a vigilanty crime lord named the Red Hood. It's actually really great for a direct to video cartoon/animated film. They go over Jason's life as Batman's second Robin, his progression as a violent teen Robin, and he's motivation to becoming a bad guy. A lot of other great characters appear in this film, but I don't want to spoil too much. It's a great film and everyone should definitely buy it/check it out.
I don't know why, but I always felt whenever this movie idea popped in my head, it would follow Tim Drake as he became the Red Robin, and he'd have his relations with Stephanie Brown and Dick Grayson and Damian. I mean it won't be like a Dark Knight type of thing, he'd interact with the family, but he'd be the focus of the story. If we went with the Red Robin path, Bruce would be missing.
However, I get where you're coming from. It's one of the reasons I want Tim to be the focus. Stephanie is least known of the Robins, and at least Tim was in a few cartoons and was in Arkham City. Speaking of which, whoever designed Grayson's realistic Nightwing costume, I love you sir. That thing is amazing.
I guess Jason Todd.. Only if the ending of the film is the death of Robin.
Seriously cannot stand Robin and would relish in seeing the char just evaporate into nothingness. Robin does infinitely more damage to the franchise than he does good.
I guess Jason Todd.. Only if the ending of the film is the death of Robin.
Seriously cannot stand Robin and would relish in seeing the char just evaporate into nothingness. Robin does infinitely more damage to the franchise than he does good.
How much of the character do you know...? Are you saying that because of the "Robin's the little kid Batman keeps with him that's annoying as hell" mentality on the internet? Because that was Golden Age Robin, back with Dick Grayson. Jason Todd wasn't loved too much either until his rewrite in 2000 that sprung the Red Hood story. Tim Drake had his run from the 90's forward and was pretty smart and independent. Damian is a mass killing machine raised by demonic Assassins, and Stephanie didn't even go up to Batman like "I WANNA BE ROBIN D:" No, she went out and risked her life just to prove to him she could help.
As some might be aware, I'm a bat-family fan, not a Batman fan, and most notably I'm a fan of the character of Robin. Since there have been five Robins though, here's my question. Which Robin should have their own stand-alone movie? Chronologically, Grayson should but he was always Batman's wonder boy until he became Nightwing, so maybe something a bit more independent.
For those that don't know, quick read outs:
Dick Grayson:
Grayson is the Robin everyone thinks of first. He was the first Robin, and the most popular in several non-comic continuities. Yes, he was the "HOLY CATCHPHRASE BATMAN!" kid but he was also the Teen Titan's leader. He is the most common and tends to have the most fluctuating personality as a character, but all agree he's the fun loving Robin.
Jason Todd:
Jason was a massive tone shift from Grayson, and not many fans liked him until his retcon in 2000. Jason Todd was Juvenile Delinquent who met Batman by stealing the rims off the Batmobile. Batman took Jason under his wing to train him to be more good, rather than live the street rat life. Jason is one of the more cold of the Robins, hot headed and Rambo-like in nature. He was killed by the Joker in 1988's "A Death in the Family" and his death is marked as one of Batman's greatest failures.
Tim Drake:
Tim Drake started off as the happiest of the Robins, but eventually his father was murdered by "Captain Boomerang" who was trying to live up to his old reputation. Some hate this, some don't mind. What goes on in Tim's head is fascinating however, because for once we see the mind of a Robin work and tweak, and somehow duplicate the mind of Batman, which is a scary though. During Bruce's disappearance in 2008 and 2009, Tim becomes the Red Robin and searches for Bruce in true detective fashion.
Stephanie Brown:
Stephanie was Tim's girlfriend and is the daughter of the crime lord The Cluemaster. When Tim retires for a brief time after his father's death, Stephanie decides to prove herself to Batman as dressing up in her own Robin costume and taking care of business on her own. She was the only female Robin, and eventually became the sixth Batgirl.
Damian Wayne:
Damian Wayne is the love child of Bruce Wayne and Talia al Ghul. He is the youngest of the Robins, but definitely the most sick minded. Damian out-right pummels Tim Drake in a fight for the role as Robin and clearly does not have his head screwed on right. He looks to Batman for approval and acceptance, but the two almost never see eye-to-eye.
For my personal favorite, Tim Drake. I would love to see Tim has his own movie and the reasoning for that is because he was the first Robin to work on his own from the start, rarely taken under Batman's wing. But that's my reasoning.
Robin is to closely linked to batman to really have his own movie. However if they started now with a new Batman movie and introduce Grayson right away, the sequel could take place X years later and start with Grayson becoming Nightwing, and Batman finding Todd to be his new Robin. Each sequel could follow that premise, introducing a new robin each time, and having the old Robin move on to his/her next roll (Red Hood/Red Robin/Batgirl) and each of them could have their own movies.
Well I'm glad you posted it, because that exactly the reason I entered this thread. That fan made Grayson trailer is tremendously badass. The trailer is nearly a decade old at this point, and honestly this would probably never be made into a film but DC really should pick up the concept as a mini.
Xanthious said:
Tim Drake and Damian really hasn't done enough away from Batman to warrant their own movie so they are both out. Stephanie Brown is way too obscure. That leaves Jason Todd and Dick Grayson. Which means it would come down to a Red Hood movie or a Nightwing movie. Given the choice I'd take a Nightwing movie as Red Hood as a stand alone character simply isn't interesting enough. Yeah Under the Red Hood was an ok Batman movie but it doesn't change the fact Jason Todd really isn't that great of a character. Hell when he was Robin people actually voted to kill him.
I guess Jason Todd.. Only if the ending of the film is the death of Robin.
Seriously cannot stand Robin and would relish in seeing the char just evaporate into nothingness. Robin does infinitely more damage to the franchise than he does good.
How much of the character do you know...? Are you saying that because of the "Robin's the little kid Batman keeps with him that's annoying as hell" mentality on the internet? Because that was Golden Age Robin, back with Dick Grayson. Jason Todd wasn't loved too much either until his rewrite in 2000 that sprung the Red Hood story. Tim Drake had his run from the 90's forward and was pretty smart and independent. Damian is a mass killing machine raised by demonic Assassins, and Stephanie didn't even go up to Batman like "I WANNA BE ROBIN D:" No, she went out and risked her life just to prove to him she could help.
Robin is to closely linked to batman to really have his own movie. However if they started now with a new Batman movie and introduce Grayson right away, the sequel could take place X years later and start with Grayson becoming Nightwing, and Batman finding Todd to be his new Robin. Each sequel could follow that premise, introducing a new robin each time, and having the old Robin move on to his/her next roll (Red Hood/Red Robin/Batgirl) and each of them could have their own movies.
In theory that would work, but in practice we would have to have individual movies branch off the main series that introduces the Robins. If you go "OH LOOK IT'S NIGHTWING! Oh and here's Jason Todd" someone will be overshadowed. If there was a main series of roughly five movies that followed each Robin at a crucial point in their "career" then that would definitely work if we had short branches off into their successes. For example, the second movie would be with Jason Todd and it would follow his life a little, quick time skips until we get to his death, which was a crucial point in his life. Then there would be a spin off movie for the Red Hood. Tim Drake would follow his father's death, we would work on from there. We would roughly have four spin offs of the main series. But that's my thought process.
I guess Jason Todd.. Only if the ending of the film is the death of Robin.
Seriously cannot stand Robin and would relish in seeing the char just evaporate into nothingness. Robin does infinitely more damage to the franchise than he does good.
How much of the character do you know...? Are you saying that because of the "Robin's the little kid Batman keeps with him that's annoying as hell" mentality on the internet? Because that was Golden Age Robin, back with Dick Grayson. Jason Todd wasn't loved too much either until his rewrite in 2000 that sprung the Red Hood story. Tim Drake had his run from the 90's forward and was pretty smart and independent. Damian is a mass killing machine raised by demonic Assassins, and Stephanie didn't even go up to Batman like "I WANNA BE ROBIN D:" No, she went out and risked her life just to prove to him she could help.
In theory that would work, but in practice we would have to have individual movies branch off the main series that introduces the Robins. If you go "OH LOOK IT'S NIGHTWING! Oh and here's Jason Todd" someone will be overshadowed. If there was a main series of roughly five movies that followed each Robin at a crucial point in their "career" then that would definitely work if we had short branches off into their successes. For example, the second movie would be with Jason Todd and it would follow his life a little, quick time skips until we get to his death, which was a crucial point in his life. Then there would be a spin off movie for the Red Hood. Tim Drake would follow his father's death, we would work on from there. We would roughly have four spin offs of the main series. But that's my thought process.
I was thinking for the second movie, it would start with an older Grayson "graduating" into Nightwing maybe with some flashbacks to the high/low points of his Robin career. And then Batman finds Todd and there would be time skips as Todd ages a little and Batman train him, until the main movie plot starts (probably with the Joker as the main villian) and the movie would end on a happyish note. The Third movie would start sometime after and start with Joker Killing Todd and the Batman being found by Drake and would continue from there.
DrgoFx said:
EXACTLY. Isn't she perfect?
But still, she stands out. It's a shame she's not that well known.
I guess Jason Todd.. Only if the ending of the film is the death of Robin.
Seriously cannot stand Robin and would relish in seeing the char just evaporate into nothingness. Robin does infinitely more damage to the franchise than he does good.
How much of the character do you know...? Are you saying that because of the "Robin's the little kid Batman keeps with him that's annoying as hell" mentality on the internet? Because that was Golden Age Robin, back with Dick Grayson. Jason Todd wasn't loved too much either until his rewrite in 2000 that sprung the Red Hood story. Tim Drake had his run from the 90's forward and was pretty smart and independent. Damian is a mass killing machine raised by demonic Assassins, and Stephanie didn't even go up to Batman like "I WANNA BE ROBIN D:" No, she went out and risked her life just to prove to him she could help.
I know enough of the public perception of Robin to know that its like an albatross around Batmans neck. I grant you on individual levels, Dick Grayson turned out great as Nightwing. Tim Drake is... ok, as Red Robin, Damien is shaping up to eventually turn into something solid. But those chars transcended being a long running bad joke.
Ive expressed what I personally felt. I revile the char of robin. Its out of place, it serve only to make Batman weaker and really does little to improve Batman until the person in the robin Costume grows up and out of it. Be that nightwing, Red Robin, Red Hood or what Damien will eventually turn into.
I know enough of the public perception of Robin to know that its like an albatross around Batmans neck. I grant you on individual levels, Dick Grayson turned out great as Nightwing. Tim Drake is... ok, as Red Robin, Damien is shaping up to eventually turn into something solid. But those chars transcended being a long running bad joke.
Ive expressed what I personally felt. I revile the char of robin. Its out of place, it serve only to make Batman weaker and really does little to improve Batman until the person in the robin Costume grows up and out of it. Be that nightwing, Red Robin, Red Hood or what Damien will eventually turn into.
Fair enough. Your thought process isn't wrong, in fact it's probably the most logical assumption. The character of Robin has had a very bad representation in pop culture. Their solo acts would probably work a lot better.
I've been trying to do a robin Fan film for years (Mainly because I made a badass costume and am vain) But couldn't find anyone willing to be in it. So Ima work on the logic of, Tim Drake had his own comic series, And Deserves his own movie.
Dick is overused (boom chicka wow wow) Jason is only good as red hood, Steph was robin for 3 issues, and Damian...Is a murderer.
(Although Tim Drake does Angst Quite a lot in the first few issues of red robin)
As much as I like him, yes, Dick Grayson is overused and half the time it confuses me with the timeline. I would much rather see another Robin have the spotlight...But that aside, I do agree that Tim would be the best options aside from Grayson.
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