Poll: Beer and Religion

[SilentCom]

This would probably the wrong place to ask that kind of question. A lot of people here probably like alcohol and have more than a few doubts about religion. Anyways, why not just start a religion about alcohol? Let the Booze God bless us with plentifuls of BOOOZE!

Actually I don't drink... p_-

 

[let's rock]

Being an athiest, the fuck if I know, and it depends on your religion I guess

 

[IkeGreil29]

The nice thing about Catholics/Christians is that they always warn but never prohibit the use of Alcohol and other substances. I was raised religiously, and consider myself a deist. I answered sometimes because drinking responsibly is fine. Drinking like a dummy to get drunk doe snot mix with religion.

 

[Blood Countess]

I am Asatru so yeah it mixes well for us since we have the mighty drinking horn

 

[Your Fearless Captain]

I knew a preacher who said "Jesus drank." So I guess there it is.

 

[gmaverick019_v1legacy]

depends.

personally i dislike the taste of alcohol anyways, but people are free to do as they please, fuck if i care.

(raised catholic myself, but i'm more of agnostic theist if given a label)

 

[Coffinshaker]

Well considering it was the monks that mainly brewed beer in the olden days I don't see why it wouldn't.

this and the fact that almost all religions have a use of alcohol or (other mind altering drugs) in their rituals. MANY use wine as a staple of their ceremonies and again, the monks (christian) are responsible for the creation and refinement of much of our modern day brews. I think I like the lager monks the best though... >)

 

[honestdiscussioner]

I'm an atheist . . . and if I have a religion . . it is beer . . and also bourbon . . and maybe red wine too.

 

[Smurf McSmurfington]

Well they do mix in the sense that one would have to be completely wasted(or stupid, or insane, or a combination of the three) to actually believe in fairytales, and I doubt the people who originally came up with the various religions in existance were exactly sober or in any way sane.
So I chose "hells yeah".

 

[Troublesome Lagomorph]

At least the Bible itself doesn't say that alcohol itself is bad. Jesus drank... hell, he partied quite a bit. Also: it just says to not get piss drunk because then you do stupid shit and God starts to facedesk at you.

 

[Dr. wonderful]

*FACEPLAM*

Jesus Christ, let end this.

Yes, you can drink beer, fuck it stated in the bible that a little wine is good for the stomach! You can drink in moderation!

Mod-er-ation!

Explation: yes you can have a cup of beer/whine/camel piss for dinner but you can't have four cups in a row.

Also, Catholic/christen tend to use wine in the Eucharist.

Yes, this logic appy toward smoking as well.

 

[remnant_phoenix]

Or, really, alcohol and religion; Can they be mixed? Ireland seems to think so. SHOULD they?
(by "mixed, I do'nt mean like getting hammered in the pews, just drinking in general for religious people. maybe having a beer while playing video games with Jesus. something like that.)

I'd rather get religious people, or at least people who were raised religious (and thus, know what it's like) opinions, but I welcome atheists' views as well.

I am a devout follower of Christ, and I find it hilarious how modern Christian religion grossly overlooks glaringly obvious statements in their own holy text.

Here's a few of those glaringly obvious statements:

1) Jesus drank wine.

2) Jesus's first recorded miracle was turning water into wine and then giving the wine to people who were already drunk so that they could STAY drunk during a wedding feast.

Yeah...

1) So, if drinking alcohol is sinful then that means Jesus sinned, which undermines the essence of who Jesus is in accordance with the Christian faith.

2) Also, if being sauced is sinful then Jesus was encouraging sinfulness, which, again, undermines the essence of who Jesus is in accordance with the Christian faith.

Here's some more food for thought:

Proverbs, considered to be the "book of wisdom," extolls the virtue of beer and wine as tools of comfort.

"Let beer be for those who are perishing,
wine for those who are in anguish!
Let them drink and forget their poverty
and remember their misery no more."

-Proverbs 31:7 (look it up if you don't believe me)

Now, let me say this as well: if drinking alcohol causes a person to lose self-control and behave in a way that is, in accordance with their beliefs, morally reprehensible, then that is a problem and that person should probably stay away from the sauce. The Bible has a ton to say about the virtue of self-control and exercising wisdom to avoid behaving in a way that is immoral.

In short, I wholeheartedly believe that there's nothing wrong with alcohol in and of itself. It's the wanton abuse of alcohol and the lack of exercised wisdom that causes moral problems for people of faith. The main reason that there is such a religious stigma against it, especially in the States, is because of Puritanical belief systems and the Prohibition movements associated with them.

 

[Smurf McSmurfington]

Y'know I just remembered a funny thing about religion and alcohol - during the middle ages, monks who made an oath to be poor and eat very little, and be humble and so on and so forth, they were still quite fat - you see the oath didn't cover alcohol, so they just started brewing and drinking beer, instead of eating. That's also why the belgian abbey beers are so bloody great - the tradition of brewing beer has been there for centuries.

 

[mental_looney]

Well catholocism doesn't have any issues with alcohol and alot of the irish are lapsed catholics or protestant as well (church of ireland also no issues with booze) so unless you are from one of the ones that ban alcohol go for it. Both use win in church communion.

I was raised in the scottish church and the only reason my parents didn't drink is my mum doesn't like the taste of alcohol very much and my dad really can't hold his drink, now me and my brother we drink and most of the timehold it pretty well but we stopped going to church asap as were not believers.

Also monks make booze so they must be cool with it. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buckfast_Tonic_Wine

 

[FirstPersonWinner]

The only Christian I know who never drinks is probably my Dad, buts that because he doesn't like it, not because of any religious reasoning. Other than that I don't know any Christians (of legal age that is) who are staunchly opposed to drinking as something that opposes biblical law.

I do know some Mormons who are staunchly against drinking though, if that counts.

 

[Titan Buttons]

Yeah there is nothing wrong with it was long as no one goes crazy and becomes an alcoholic, so pretty much the normal situation when drinking alchol, be responsible.

 

[Snake Plissken]

Beer IS my religion.

 

[scythian0528]

Alcohol is considered forbidden by a great deal of adherents of Islam. Some are okay with it, and some are not.

A better topic would have been the issue of consumption of pork being explicitly forbidden in Islam and Judaism, but not in Christianity, solely because of western society rather than adherence to religious text. (Leviticus condemns consumption of pork, from what I remember).

 

[BlumiereBleck]

well wine counts as part of many religions as something sacred.