i have only played dawn of sorrow and portrait of ruin(of the DS ones) but i must say this: do NOT waste money on portrait of ruin. i found myself having to WORK through the end of portrait of ruin, and the replays were no more appealing, whereas all the other (2d, why cant they seem to get 3d right? dark fantasy atmosphere melee focused metroid prime, its not that difficult konami! dont seperate the combat from the platforming with the same zeal jRPGs seperate gameplay from story) castlevania games ive played since SOTN i have replayed at least 3 times. dawn of sorrow was essentially aria of sorry, but with somewhat more exciting graphical effects, and slightly improved gameplay in every way, portrait of ruin... is what oblivion was to the elder scrolls, but without the technical advances. in theory, it was a good game, but they took all the stuff that made it what it was, and fucked it up, then they added an annoying gimmick, and overextended the gameplay. i cant speak for order of ecclesia, with my broken DS and all (fuck toyota) but im going to guess its better than portrait of ruin.