Poll: Bioshock Infinite: Burial at Sea (Ep.1) Thoughts and opinions

[Falcondynamite]

Just finished it myself about ten minutes ago and I won't spoil much of anything, but I can generally see where it's going. Would like to hear some thoughts and opinions on what's there to expect on future episodes and how you felt about this one...
I will say this though, being back in Rapture felt great, being able to hold more than two weapons was also very nice and combat felt back at home (I'm personally not a big fan of the combat in regular Infinite, I could express my opinion further, but only if someone asks), in which I mean I felt like I could go in with a plan and strategy knowing where my enemies lurked. It felt comfortable. The Big Daddies... THAT was one hell of an improvement! I thought they were pretty tough in the first game... but WOW!

Play nice kids (coming from the guy who's probably younger than you'd think...)

-Julio

 

[schrodinger]

It was nice to actually see what rapture was like before the revolution. Rapture could have been a nice place to live in during the glory years. It was great to see Sander Cohen again, that crazy ass artist; he even became intimidating during his speeches.
The weapon wheel was godsend to have again and the trade for the wheel with less gun ammo was acceptable.

That ending though...

Spoiler

Holy shit, Booker just cannot catch a break. From what the ending is saying an alt Booker was trying to get anna from other Booker, but unlike the main storyline this Anna was decapitated, yeesh. Elizabeth with big daddy's help kills Booker again for killing baby Anna. So alt Booker becomes Comstock, but with his guilt he becomes Booker again? Did he also become younger too? How did that work? Also, was this Elizabeth the one from the main story or is it alt Elizabeth? These stories are becoming so twisted it's hard to identify who's who anymore. Does this mean all the Elizabeths/Annas will hunt done the Bookers/Comstocks that have down wrong, because this will become an endless cycle it seems. Just let Booker die for good already, the poor guy has gone through enough shit.

 

[Pink Gregory]

I still maintain that it feels like a cop-out to go back to Rapture.

"Hey, we created this breathtaking sky-city with huge scope for exploration of it's landscape (air-scape?) and themes!"

"But the fans like Rapture."

"...BACK TO RAPTURE!"

 

[JustinDP]

I personally enjoyed the setting of Rapture better than the setting of Columbia. Rapture is darker, and a bit more visually interesting. Not that Columbia was terrible, or anything. So, I'm actually fairly excited to see it return. Besides, there is plenty of time for them to return to Columbia for a future DLC. Hell, you could even argue there is no real reasoning why they can't rift their way into Columbia during this DLC series at one point or another. Even if just temporary.

 

[Falcondynamite]

It was nice to actually see what rapture was like before the revolution. Rapture could have been a nice place to live in during the glory years. It was great to see Sander Cohen again, that crazy ass artist; he even became intimidating during his speeches.
The weapon wheel was godsend to have again and the trade for the wheel with less gun ammo was acceptable.

That ending though...

Spoiler

Holy shit, Booker just cannot catch a break. From what the ending is saying an alt Booker was trying to get anna from other Booker, but unlike the main storyline this Anna was decapitated, yeesh. Elizabeth with big daddy's help kills Booker again for killing baby Anna. So alt Booker becomes Comstock, but with his guilt he becomes Booker again? Did he also become younger too? How did that work? Also, was this Elizabeth the one from the main story or is it alt Elizabeth? These stories are becoming so twisted it's hard to identify who's who anymore. Does this mean all the Elizabeths/Annas will hunt done the Bookers/Comstocks that have down wrong, because this will become an endless cycle it seems. Just let Booker die for good already, the poor guy has gone through enough shit.

Spoiler

First off that boss fight with the big Daddy was intense and was probably the best thing I've seen from any of the Bioshock games period... Just pointing that out there. Well judging from the possibilities here we're talking an infinite number of possibilities (hence the title). This could very well be the same Elizabeth we came to know and love and since she could figure who Comstock was that's why she was so harsh and inevitably killing him. I would like to believe this is the same Elizabeth we parted ways with in Infinite but it's genuinely possible it is another variation of Elizabeth who drowned Comstock in Columbia to stop the events of Infinite... There has to be at least one Elizabeth that stops Comstock and has to relive the events that Comstock did to her, so that's why I believe it could very well be the same Elizabeth. Maybe she's on a Vendetta, going from Infinite worlds stopping anyone from the stuff Booker was capable of doing. She could be on a hunt for any Booker who has had the capability of becoming Comstock, has been Comstock, is Comstock, or has interactions with Comstock from another world. I don't think Anna plays a role (not yet anyway) in all of this, remember Anna doesn't ever go through the trauma that creates Elizabeth, so why would Anna have anything against Comstock if she never knew him or ever gain the powers of tear (which she only developed because the Lauteces experimented with her enough, she wasn't born with the ability).

Ending kind of reminds me to the first trailer to Bioshock... If anyone still remembers that.

 

[Autumnflame]

I loved the twist at the end it was well done and within the cannon of the first game.

cant wait to see what happens next

 

[Falcondynamite]

I still maintain that it feels like a cop-out to go back to Rapture.

"Hey, we created this breathtaking sky-city with huge scope for exploration of it's landscape (air-scape?) and themes!"

"But the fans like Rapture."

"...BACK TO RAPTURE!"

There was plenty to explore in both worlds, but it never hurts to go back to your roots for a fun little journey that could please both the newcomers to infinite and the nostalgic fans of the first.
In other words I doubt their done with Columbia, but there was plenty to explore still in Rapture's youth.

Spoiler

although Burial at sea kindly addresses as to how the hell Vigors came to be in Infinite and that was because apparently a tear in Rapture basically dumped some of the plasmids over to Columbia and Fink just happened to get hold of it... Dr. Suchong explains this in one of the audio logs... Honestly it's very vague, but I guess that's one way of a plausible explanation...

 

[Chimpzy_v1legacy]

I like it, even though it's pretty much fan-service. A bit on the expensive side for the amount of playtime though.

 

[teamcharlie]

I definitely liked this bit of DLC. It's not massive, but it's very well written (as we have come to expect) and the level design is neat. Clearly not your standard cash-grab horse armor pack.

But dat ending (and, in retrospect, the ending to the original game):

Spoiler

So. If Elizabeth can hop through time and space at a whim, why doesn't she...oh, I dunno, HELP her father instead of murdering him? Y'know, get him to stop drinking and gambling, find a decent job and actually raise his daughter without getting so deep into debt that he ends up selling her/just stop him from meeting the Luteces.

But I guess that takes time and care, and she probably can't be bothered. Revenge and hate are so much easier after all when there aren't any repercussions for hurting the only person who has ever actually cared about her.

Here's hoping the final boss of part II is Elizabeth, the real monster of the game.

 

[Falcondynamite]

I definitely liked this bit of DLC. It's not massive, but it's very well written (as we have come to expect) and the level design is neat. Clearly not your standard cash-grab horse armor pack.

But dat ending (and, in retrospect, the ending to the original game):

Spoiler

So. If Elizabeth can hop through time and space at a whim, why doesn't she...oh, I dunno, HELP her father instead of murdering him? Y'know, get him to stop drinking and gambling, find a decent job and actually raise his daughter without getting so deep into debt that he ends up selling her/just stop him from meeting the Luteces.

But I guess that takes time and care, and she probably can't be bothered. Revenge and hate are so much easier after all when there aren't any repercussions for hurting the only person who has ever actually cared about her.

Here's hoping the final boss of part II is Elizabeth, the real monster of the game.

That's actually where I was thinking the story was headed... It'd make more sense, and maybe it isn't the same Elizabeth, it could be one from another world with similarities... We don't know that yet, or it's still open to interpretation.

 

[Falcondynamite]

I'm very happy that some people actually voted the last poll option, makes me feel all warm inside.

 

[Yoshi4102]

I can see why some people wouldn't like it, playtime and all that jazz. Me personally I was VERY impressed with the extra bit of story campaign.

A lot of the over-reactions I've seen though are what is wrong with gaming. 99% haven't even played it (probably weren't planning to either) and use the "from what I've heard" argument. Drives me nuts. Play the game before being a doomsayer! I saw one person say that Irrational deserves to be shut down because of this, seriously?

 

[Falcondynamite]

A lot of the over-reactions I've seen though are what is wrong with gaming. 99% haven't even played it (probably weren't planning to either) and use the "from what I've heard" argument. Drives me nuts. Play the game before being a doomsayer! I saw one person say that Irrational deserves to be shut down because of this, seriously?

Simple saying. People ***** more than they praise. Doesn't matter how good a developer/actor/person/ jolly rancher is, anyone is a victim to that. So i agree with you in terms of these over-reactions people have been doing.

 

[Psychobabble]

I voted "There are spiders inside my gums". Thank you, thank you, thank you for finally letting me admit that to the world and move on with my life.

 

[Raggedstar]

*just finished* ...Well then...

One of my friends was apparently spoiled over Tumblr when she was casually checking her stuff. It's a damn shame. Been warning my other friends to keep the hell off of Youtube and Tumblr until they played it.

Anyways, I did like this DLC. Part of me wished it was longer/cheaper, but regardless I did like what I got.

Spoiler

I also agree that the final boss fight against the Big Daddy was very intense and well-done. They were threatening in the original, but then again you could usually fight them on your own terms and eventually with better firepower. That extendo-drill caught me off-guard when he yanked me from the rail and clear across the other end of the arena. I don't think I've ever been more intimidated by a Big Daddy. *clap clap*

Also liked bumming around Rapture too. Still full of rich weirdos even before the war, but still cool. I tried to go around to as many people as possible, considering the most you got out of the locals last trip to Rapture involved screaming while wearing bunny masks and singing about how Jesus loved them.

As for the story, no bloody idea where it's going after this. Perhaps going back to Rapture was a bit of a cop-out (personally I prefer Rapture and Ryan over Columbia and Comstock), but considering how Infinite ended I liked how they integrated the two settings. Not sure how they'll further use it in the next installment, but I'll bite. Go on, I'm intrigued.

 

[Extra-Ordinary]

I haven't finished it yet but so far it's okay.

What I like:
- The little nods in NPC dialogue to both the original Bioshock and Infinite
- New audio logs, especially the ones that mention Columbian intervention.
- The art style for Infinite fits beautifully for a Rapture that hasn't gone to hell yet.
- Rapture has a very Las Vegas-y feel to it
- The right level of open-worldness. I know it's not *that* open but I'm not much of an explorer so it's a perfect balance for me.
- Returning Bioshock characters

What I don't like:
- Stealth. I was never good at stealth.
- The Air-Grabber. As much as I loved the Sky-Hook, Rapture's really not built for that kind of thing.
- The plasmids are still vigors. Come on, I can buy that Columbian intervention made plasmids ingestible (even though for Rapture I would prefer the needle) but at the very least you could switch them back to their original names.

I have no opinion on the starvation of ammo. I don't hate it, don't love it, it's just... a thing.
Anyway.
Despite having mostly positive things to say about it, I'm not finding it *that* hot. I'm gonna keep playing it, I already bought the Season Pass after all, but I don't know if I'm going to play it again after I finish it.

 

[Falcondynamite]

I voted "There are spiders inside my gums". Thank you, thank you, thank you for finally letting me admit that to the world and move on with my life.

You sir are a king of kings and shall eternally be praised for such bravery! I commend you with the highest reward!

 

[Falcondynamite]

*just finished* ...Well then...

One of my friends was apparently spoiled over Tumblr when she was casually checking her stuff. It's a damn shame. Been warning my other friends to keep the hell off of Youtube and Tumblr until they played it.

Anyways, I did like this DLC. Part of me wished it was longer/cheaper, but regardless I did like what I got.

Yeah the plasmid/vigor thing just felt lazy.
and the "Air-grabber" doesn't work because there isn't much use of it at all, I'd prefer a variation of the Big Daddy's grappling hook (or drill).
Sadly I don't wish to piss anyone off, but I actually got Bioshock for free when i was making my PC, one of the graphics cards I purchased allowed me to score three free games, one of which was Bioshock Infinite (the others being Tomb Raider and Far Cry 3 blood Dragon), right after that Steam had a sale on the Season pass... Jumped right on top of that very quickly....

 

[Sarge034]

I felt like the graphics got downgraded somehow and the controls didn't feel as tight. The story doesn't really happen until the last 10 minutes of the game. It just feels like hey look at a pretty pre-splicer hell Rapture, now go shoot splicers, and oh yea there's a story in here too somewhere. I feel like it was too short as well.

However...

Spoiler: end game spoilers

Dat ending is pretty fucking sweet. I am curious to see where the story goes, but the next episode(s) need to be focused more on explaining what the fuck is going on. Is Elizabeth hunting and killing all the Comstocks in every dimension? How was there even a Comstock after the end of Infinite?

The scariest mother fucking thing in the whole game? This shit right here...