Poll: blizzards games are they evil or are we to blame

[KeyMaster45]

I have just pulled myself away from WoW(horde btw) and then I grew bored but i knew that If I went back into WoW I might get addicted.....again.
so I went to another billzard money spinner Diablo.
No sooner had I entered I felt like I was playing WoW just from a different angle.
So I went on to starcraft and had the same feeling in the back of my head.

Pro tip dude, if you want to walk away from WoW don't just change to playing a different Blizzard game, hell don't even try to pick up a new MMO when trying to quit WoW. If you're really serious about quitting you need to just uninstall it and never look back.

 

[Pearwood]

Cut WoW and activision out of the picture and I'd say Blizzard is one of the greatest companies ever.

I can't say Vivendi-Blizzard and Activision-Blizzard have changed much except not having spawn installs on Starcraft 2 which does suck but it's not as if anyone but Blizzard have ever offered that. All WoW and Activision gives them is a massive budget and it shows they use it right if you look at the graphics, voice acting and stuff in SC2, hopefully in D3 too.

 

[Crazie_Guy]

Cut WoW and activision out of the picture and I'd say Blizzard is one of the greatest companies ever.

I can't say Vivendi-Blizzard and Activision-Blizzard have changed much except not having spawn installs on Starcraft 2 which does suck but it's not as if anyone but Blizzard have ever offered that. All WoW and Activision gives them is a massive budget and it shows they use it right if you look at the graphics, voice acting and stuff in SC2, hopefully in D3 too.

I'll give you that. WoW is a great source of income to work on the games I care about.

There is one thing I can never forgive them for, though. Waiting so long for Starcraft 2 that the voice actor for Zeratul died.

Try as I might, I still can't think of any game character who's voice I loved more than Zeratul. "You speak of knowledge, Judicator?..."

 

[Seventh Actuality]

Of course you are to blame for being "addicted" to any game. Games aren't like drugs, thats just the hight of sillyness to even imply it.

Skinner's box says otherwise.

I love how everyone now parrots "Skinner's box!" like that waves away all the blatant flaws in the idea of a game "addiction" being the fault of anyone but the player. Skinner's box is a system designers use that taps into behaviours people have always exhibited. The player's behaviour is completely up to them.

 

[Crazie_Guy]

Of course you are to blame for being "addicted" to any game. Games aren't like drugs, thats just the hight of sillyness to even imply it.

Skinner's box says otherwise.

I love how everyone now parrots "Skinner's box!" like that waves away all the blatant flaws in the idea of a game "addiction" being the fault of anyone but the player. Skinner's box is a system designers use that taps into behaviours people have always exhibited. The player's behaviour is completely up to them.

Yes, players can just outsmart the system by willfully behaving against... documented natural human behavior. It's so simple!

Silly addicted people, its sure easy for us non addicts to imagine kicking a hypothetical addiction, isn't it?

 

[Lunar Templar]

being that WoW has not only failed to catch my interest from a game play stance (CoH had better writing and reasons to do anything in game from the start, and the combat is better as well, and Vindictus absolutely curb stomps WoW in both the combat and required skill departments) but the other players left me bitter toward the game.

i also tryed Diablo 1, and it failed to catch my interest, once again, what ever blizzards done, i found some one else did it better.

same plays to there 40k knockoff Starcarft DoW2 is better, despite what any one else says

conclusion:: Blizzard, nor they games are evil they're way over hyped and far as I'm concerned not very good

 

[Seventh Actuality]

Of course you are to blame for being "addicted" to any game. Games aren't like drugs, thats just the hight of sillyness to even imply it.

Skinner's box says otherwise.

I love how everyone now parrots "Skinner's box!" like that waves away all the blatant flaws in the idea of a game "addiction" being the fault of anyone but the player. Skinner's box is a system designers use that taps into behaviours people have always exhibited. The player's behaviour is completely up to them.

Yes, players can just outsmart the system by willfully behaving against... documented natural human behavior. It's so simple!

Silly addicted people, its sure easy for us non addicts to imagine kicking a hypothetical addiction, isn't it?

Yes, it is. Natural human behaviour is not a powerful, inescapable force when it comes to making the simple decision to turn off the computer when you've been on too long. Notice the Extra Credits episode people are now using to justify their hypocritical bullshit specifically points out that operant conditioning and being addicted are not the same thing.

 

[SinisterGehe]

If WoW is addictive so is social interaction.
Also, is it wrong to make good games that people like to play? OH my god, Minecraft is the devils spawn!

There is nothing wrong with Blizzard, they just do what they do best and create great games that people like to play.

 

[Crazie_Guy]

Of course you are to blame for being "addicted" to any game. Games aren't like drugs, thats just the hight of sillyness to even imply it.

Skinner's box says otherwise.

I love how everyone now parrots "Skinner's box!" like that waves away all the blatant flaws in the idea of a game "addiction" being the fault of anyone but the player. Skinner's box is a system designers use that taps into behaviours people have always exhibited. The player's behaviour is completely up to them.

Yes, players can just outsmart the system by willfully behaving against... documented natural human behavior. It's so simple!

Silly addicted people, its sure easy for us non addicts to imagine kicking a hypothetical addiction, isn't it?

Yes, it is. Natural human behaviour is not a powerful, inescapable force when it comes to making the simple decision to turn off the computer when you've been on too long. Notice the Extra Credits episode people are now using to justify their hypocritical bullshit specifically points out that operant conditioning and being addicted are not the same thing.

Yup. If it isn't actual chemical addiction, it's just not addiction at all.

 

[Seventh Actuality]

The comparison was to gambling addiction, not heroin cut with meth.

 

[Tanis]

Anyone who gets addicted to a game to a point that it hurts their life...
I don't feel much 'sympathy' for them.

 

[Seventh Actuality]

Anyone who gets addicted to a game to a point that it hurts their life...
I don't feel much 'sympathy' for them.

This. I played WoW since vanilla, all through secondary (high school for americans) and didn't skip a single painful day for it. If I fucked up my own life playing a video game, I'd hate myself, not the company who made it.

 

[Charli]

Hello I play all of Blizzards games. I am currently not playing any of them at this moment in time. I am not addicted. That is all. You are the only control factor in what you do with your time around something popular/entertaining.

 

[Sean951]

being that WoW has not only failed to catch my interest from a game play stance (CoH had better writing and reasons to do anything in game from the start, and the combat is better as well, and Vindictus absolutely curb stomps WoW in both the combat and required skill departments) but the other players left me bitter toward the game.

i also tryed Diablo 1, and it failed to catch my interest, once again, what ever blizzards done, i found some one else did it better.

same plays to there 40k knockoff Starcarft DoW2 is better, despite what any one else says

conclusion:: Blizzard, nor they games are evil they're way over hyped and far as I'm concerned not very good

Wasn't Starcraft originally supposed to be a licensed 40k game that got it's licensed pulled after they had started? I know that is Warcraft's excuse, and since they had already dumped tons of time and money into it, they just renamed it.

 

[Grufflenark]

Can you add the option "Are the addicted to blame" because thats what I vote for.

 

[Lunar Templar]

being that WoW has not only failed to catch my interest from a game play stance (CoH had better writing and reasons to do anything in game from the start, and the combat is better as well, and Vindictus absolutely curb stomps WoW in both the combat and required skill departments) but the other players left me bitter toward the game.

i also tryed Diablo 1, and it failed to catch my interest, once again, what ever blizzards done, i found some one else did it better.

same plays to there 40k knockoff Starcarft DoW2 is better, despite what any one else says

conclusion:: Blizzard, nor they games are evil they're way over hyped and far as I'm concerned not very good

Wasn't Starcraft originally supposed to be a licensed 40k game that got it's licensed pulled after they had started? I know that is Warcraft's excuse, and since they had already dumped tons of time and money into it, they just renamed it.

something like that, and to blizzards credit, they did spin it off in a different direction (not like they had a choice) to bad they choose the less compelling rout

 

[Friendshipandmagic]

Of course you are to blame for being "addicted" to any game. Games aren't like drugs, thats just the hight of sillyness to even imply it.

Skinner's box says otherwise.

You've just demonstrated that you don't know what your talking about.

 

[Trolldor]

Games aren't addictive in the true sense of "addiction". As in physically. They are psychologically addicting so any addiction you have is, quite literally, all in your head.

Blizzard isn't evil. WoW isn't evil. Their games aren't evil. And the players aren't (as a whole) self destructive.

No one is to blame. It just happens sometimes.

...wut?

Anything can be addictive, it's simply a matter of susceptibility.

Gaming can be incredibly addictive, as in a physical 'addiction'.

 

[ZeroMachine]

Games aren't addictive in the true sense of "addiction". As in physically. They are psychologically addicting so any addiction you have is, quite literally, all in your head.

Blizzard isn't evil. WoW isn't evil. Their games aren't evil. And the players aren't (as a whole) self destructive.

No one is to blame. It just happens sometimes.

...wut?

Anything can be addictive, it's simply a matter of susceptibility.

Gaming can be incredibly addictive, as in a physical 'addiction'.

No, it can't. EDIT: As in can't be a "physical addiction", it can be addicting.

A physical addiction is when an new chemical or an excess of an existent chemical is introduced to the body en masse, creating a dependency on said chemical.

Video games introduce no chemicals to the body what-so-ever.

It can be mentally addictive though- creating a pattern and habit that you feel strange, and sometimes sick, not completing. It can present itself in some physical ways, but in order for THAT to happen, you need to be, as you said, susceptible. ANYONE can get addicted to alcohol with enough consumption. Not everyone can get addicted to video games.

I'm not saying it's any less of an addiction (a few days ago, someone posted something about actually having withdrawal symptoms- an unheard of extreme in my case). It's just, as I said, LITERALLY all in your head (being a mental addiction and all), and it's much more easily treatable then someone that's created an actual physical dependency.

 

[FalloutJack]

Sorry, but WoW came after Diablo and Starcraft, I think. It's really only a coincidence that you think that way. The thing of it is that you know it was the same developers, so you make the connection, but the fault may only be the addictiveness of WoW in general.