Poll: Boycott Rage

[William Ossiss]

This 'buy it new to play things that would have been included otherwise!' crap needs to end. im sick of game companies thinking that they can do this to us, as consumers. we dont have to put up with this bull anymore. WE decide whether or not their game gets bought. WE decide to put money down for a title they release. they dont get to decide that for us. im tired of the companies thinking that they can get away with this, just because they assume we will always buy their games no matter what.

If we allow this to continue, what will happen to games like Skyrim? do you want to only be able to access 15 quests if you buy it new? or to a new extreme: you can only dual wield if you buy it new?

 

[SpyderJ]

Or the factor of them being developers meens that they set the standards for what you must do. I know some buisness practices are wrong, thats very obvious. Not including stuff to prevent people from torrenting it or getting second hand sales a few days after seems pretty reasonable to me because it isnt effecting those that purchases the game. And thats just it, they are requireing you to merely, "BUY" the game. Explain to me what is wrong with this. I may be overlooking some huge factor but currently I don't see it with this complaint.

 

[Anah'ya]

The question

The answer:

Or the factor of them being developers meens that they set the standards for what you must do. I know some buisness practices are wrong, thats very obvious. Not including stuff to prevent people from torrenting it or getting second hand sales a few days after seems pretty reasonable to me because it isnt effecting those that purchases the game. And thats just it, they are requireing you to merely, "BUY" the game. Explain to me what is wrong with this. I may be overlooking some huge factor but currently I don't see it with this complaint.

I would like to know how this is wrong too.

 

[Skizle]

Its so that you buy the game new and not used from Gamestop. Even if you buy it from Gamestop new it doesn't support Gamestop. Gamestop doesn't make money off of new games, they only make money off the games that you buy used. So if a company is giving the middle finger to Gamestop I say more power to them.

 

[Stall]

No, it doesn't need to stop. Developers don't get a CENT from someone buying the game used. Gamestop and other used game companies keep all the profits from used games; they don't politely give the developers or publishers some money for that game. THAT is why they are doing these day 1 DLC things... so they can try to still earn profits from used sales.

If you care about video games and want to support the industry, then buy new. If you don't give a shit and just want to save yourself money, then feel free to buy used, but don't ***** when game developers are trying to recuperate the loses of someone playing their game without giving them money because you don't want to support the industry.

Go boycott something fucking meaningful... not this.

 

[aescuder]

With Jim Sterling's new video about boycotting on the front page the timing of this thread couldn't have been worse.

Vote with your wallet. End of story.

If players still doesn't buy games new then they're obviously going to have wise up and make games better and actually WORTH buying new.

 

[Rednog]

The developers don't see a dime from used purchases why should they care about your complaints? You aren't their customers in any way shape or form, they hold absolutely no responsibility to make you happy. Go ahead and boycott the game, it won't hurt the developer at all because you weren't going to buy the game mew so in either case they aren't seeing any money from you.

Go complain to used retailers for having horrid business practices. Video games are the only industry where selling something used is priced tagged so close to the original price tag. Seriously, $5 off is an absurd undercutting method that people will constantly buy into because it just makes sense to pay $5 less for the same object. People need to stop rallying against the developers and complain to the used retailers, make them sell copies of the games with the 'new' codes for their higher prices, and copies that don't have the code for the proper devalued price where a consumer can go and get the code online or wherever else and that code cost + the used game is equal to the cost of the used game that still has the code.

 

[WaruTaru]

With Jim Sterling's new video about boycotting on the front page the timing of this thread couldn't have been worse.

Vote with your wallet. End of story.

If players still doesn't buy games new then they're obviously going to have wise up and make games better and actually WORTH buying new.

+1 to this. Support good developers because they make your game good. Say no to developers when they make shitty games and let them crash and burn.

 

[Canadamus Prime]

Just checking, but do you know what the word "boycott" means? I'm only asking because I'm fairly certain that the last few people who threw that word around didn't.

 

[geier]

Why is everyone complaining about Gamestop ?
It is the same when you buy a game from afriend or eBay.

 

[Dogstile]

Oh dude, terrible, terrible timing here. You should really watch whats going on about the rest of the site before you post.

I mean, you have a valid reason, but timing. Ewwwwwwwww. Either way, I don't need to boycott, i'm already not buying.

 

[AJax_21]

Or the factor of them being developers meens that they set the standards for what you must do. I know some buisness practices are wrong, thats very obvious. Not including stuff to prevent people from torrenting it or getting second hand sales a few days after seems pretty reasonable to me because it isnt effecting those that purchases the game. And thats just it, they are requireing you to merely, "BUY" the game. Explain to me what is wrong with this. I may be overlooking some huge factor but currently I don't see it with this complaint.

Your first comment is also the best in the thread. *slow claps*

Honestly, I don't see anything wrong with this and this is coming from the guy who hates the day-1 DLC. (If used wrong)

They're giving buyers an incentive for buying the game new, for actually supporting the developers, it isn't any different than what companies like Bioware and DICE did in the past. And hey, it's not like they're cutting a huge component like the multiplayer mode. Just small sections, the sewers(as far as I know), that are part of a 15-20 hours epic game(Stated by iD of course).

 

[DeadlyYellow]

With Jim Sterling's new video about boycotting on the front page the timing of this thread couldn't have been worse.

Or was planned. It isn't uncommon to see topics crop up after a featured entry discusses them. Let's just hope he wanted honest discussion and not to just ride the wave of the bigger boy for badges or somesuch.

As far as the topic goes, people need to remember this:

Investors > Consumers.

Since we as a group will never organize anything meaningful, we cannot change the way companies will treat us. A large majority of gamers are heavy corporate tools, with all the integrity of a house of cards in a windstorm. As such, they'll fold on their position the moment the targeted game is released.

 

[Fiz_The_Toaster]

Or the factor of them being developers meens that they set the standards for what you must do. I know some buisness practices are wrong, thats very obvious. Not including stuff to prevent people from torrenting it or getting second hand sales a few days after seems pretty reasonable to me because it isnt effecting those that purchases the game. And thats just it, they are requireing you to merely, "BUY" the game. Explain to me what is wrong with this. I may be overlooking some huge factor but currently I don't see it with this complaint.

I would like to know how this is wrong too.

I'd like to know that as well.

If you don't like it then why don't you go after the retailers for this, why do you have to hurt and go after the developers for this?

 

[MaxwellEdison]

I think there are better ways to accomplish this, but it makes a lot of sense if you look at why they're doing it. Basically, as EVERYONE has said, this is because they make no profits off used games. And that's stupid, and needs to stop.

Imagine if you created something, and you expected to make so much money off it. Then some other dude is like, "Oh hey man, just drop them off at my place, I'll sell them." Then you come back and you realize he's been running a program to get used games back and sell them again to make a big profit for himself and not give any to you.

I'm only worried that places like GameStop might raise the prices of new games to make a profit off those. But not really, I don't buy anything from there anyways.
Side note, I haven't heard about this yet. How are they managing to keep things from people who play it used?

 

[Ironic Pirate]

Eh, boycotts are silly. I am annoyed with the desperate, underhanded attempts some devs are trying to get people to buy new, though. If I like your game, I'll buy it new. If you try to force me to by withholding content, then I'll buy it used out of spite.

Punishing the consumer for Gamespot's dickishness makes you a dick, too.

 

[DEAD34345]

I am 100% with you on this boycott... though that is mainly because I have no intention of buying RAGE anyway.

I buy quite a few games used, but these practices haven't affected me at all yet. When/if they do I might get annoyed, but until then... meh.

If I care about a game I buy it new, if I don't I get it cheap months later, in which case I've usually saved 3/4 of the original price. Even if I have to buy the missing content, I've still got a pretty good deal compared to those that get it new.

 

[Epona]

No, it doesn't need to stop. Developers don't get a CENT from someone buying the game used. Gamestop and other used game companies keep all the profits from used games; they don't politely give the developers or publishers some money for that game. THAT is why they are doing these day 1 DLC things... so they can try to still earn profits from used sales.

If you care about video games and want to support the industry, then buy new. If you don't give a shit and just want to save yourself money, then feel free to buy used, but don't ***** when game developers are trying to recuperate the loses of someone playing their game without giving them money because you don't want to support the industry.

Go boycott something fucking meaningful... not this.

You say "Developers don't get a CENT from someone buying the game used" as if we should be shocked. In fact, developers aren't entitled to that any more than Dell is entitled to some of the money from the monitor I sold at my garage sale. It's like being shocked because a 2 year old can't get a drivers license.

The used market is a legitimate market and as such it is the game industry that is in the wrong for trying to destroy it.

If you care about video games you'll protest this greed on the part of publishers before they destroy the entire industry. More and more people hate the publishers everytime some new BS DRM is introduced and doubly so when they are using that DRM to harm the used market because unlike piracy, the used market is legitimate and tied to consumer rights.