Poll: Boycott Rage

[Ironbat92]

You probably heard this a dozen times, but you should watch the Jimquisition episode about Boycott. Yes, there are some stupid ones like the Left 4 Dead 2 and Sonic 4 boycotts, but Boycotting can be a good thing. Developers want to hear what people think. Just look at Dragon Age 2 and Resistance 2, since a lot of people didn't like those games, Bioware and Insomniac games are listening to the feed back and fixing it in their third installments.
Watch the Jumquisition video here: http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/jimquisition/3857-BOYCOTT

 

[Caverat]

So, if this thing is geared toward destroying the used market (and I think it is given that it's already happened to the PC used market), is it immoral or not because you seem to be going both ways.

Again, it is not a given that this will destroy the used game market. The biggest problem for pc games with the use of cd keys was the complete inability to access online content (Which I'm fine with). Console games, even if burrowed or purchased used, still allow online play even if they don't come with the free dlc codes that they did when purchased new.

At no point did I state it was immoral. Re-read my posts carefully, it can't be written any clearer as I only write fluently in english. If english isn't your first language there is nothing I can do, sorry.

The two portions of my posts you specifically quoted both state the same view, that it is NOT immoral.


Good job about not actually responding to my post though, and just trying to manufacture some nitpicky little thing about them. (See, I can do it to)

GG son.

 

[Lunar Templar]

They're not doing anything exactly wrong here, they just want to be paid for the game they made and if you're buying it used, you're not paying them, you're paying gamestop.

It's a simple choice, want the extra features? Buy it new. It's a lot like buying the special edition to a game, are you going to boycott them for not giving you that stuff too? You get what you pay for, that's how a lot of things work.

That's how I see it anyway. It's not even about taking sides really, you're simply not paying the guys who made the game so why should they care what you want? So you want to help them and get your game features well I think buying it new is for you. Besides you get shrink wrap to open and who doesn't enjoy opening a new game?

Also, it's not like they're stripping out the ability to play or save more than one file.

as i understand it, its not extra stuff they're taking out, its a whole chunk of the single player

http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/112247-Rage-Cuts-Single-Player-When-You-Buy-It-Used

case you missed what the fuss is about.

No I'm aware, but again, you're not giving money to the guys who made it when you buy used, so why do you expect them to care? I'm aware this is you know sort of a debatable thing but I've done a lot of jobs where the other party just felt like they didn't want to pay but they expected me to send the files anyway. Guess who didn't get what they wanted? Neither party.

actually i wasn't gonna get RAGE at all *trollface here* so they don't get my money regardless, so my disapproval is less about me getting screwed now, and more about me getting potentially screwed later when its a game i want.

that said...

i honestly have no problem shelling out full price for a new copy, the devs should get their cut, they gotta eat to just like me, but there's gotta be a better way to go about getting said fair share from the used crowd then crap like this, since all its doing is pissing people off

Yeah Ubisoft has that "better way to deal with it" remember? Playing single player? You must be online at all times or you can't play. Buy it new? Fuck you paying scum only pirates get to play offline. But we swear it's to target pirates!

Rage is taking something out you can buy as DLC it's not a huge deal. There's worse ways as I stated with Ubisoft being the fucking U.S.S. Fuckwad in terms of DRM. I'm not saying at all that what they're doing is perfect with RAGE.

However being that the dev gets no money from the used sales I can somewhat understand. If I get it I'm buying it new for 2 reasons 1- I'm a sucker for shrinkwrap+content, 2- I'd get it on PC so I'd have to get it new regardless.

Again, is it perfect? Not really, can they do better? Yes but they can do a LOT worse.

o.0 i'm sorry i kinda missed that 'ubisoft thing', i'm a VERY finicky gamer, and ubisoft has never made a game i care to play

personally, i like DLC as the option my self, content booster packs like Fallout dose, maybe with an extra sprinkling of gear packs and related quests for between bigger DLC.

but really, this whole shit storm over THIS you can probably chalk up to poor wording, cause really, its the sewer level, no one is expected to dick around there.

True, I wasn't yelling at you if you thought that by the by. I was just yelling in general. Ubisoft is the DRM cesspool. They had games that only let you install 3-5 times then you had to rebuy or try to request more. Now they say install but it counts any hardware changes, so new ram? Video card? CD/DVD drive? All counts. Then they have that always online drm, so if you play singleplayer you MUST be online or you get kicked immediately.

They claim it's to stop piracy however every one of their games is on torrent sites and you don't always have to be online for that. So which one would you be more motivated to get?

That's really why I don't mind that day 1 dlc nonsense and this, because the alternative is Ubisoft, and I really don't like them.

is cool, never got the impression of yelling

and thank you, ubisoft is now black listed far as i'm concerned

day 1 DLC >.> yeah, its ok, given alternatives, hell done right it can help some one pick what version they get (as it apllys here, when i bought Alice 2, i got the version that came with Alice 1, which was the PS3 version, and the PS3 version Warhammer 40K: Space Marine has the colors of a chapter i like)

 

[DefinitelyPsychotic]

Let's boycott boycotting!

Problem solved!

 

[Kair]

There is a simple personal answer to DRM: Piracy.

There is a simple anwser to piracy: DRM! You see how this could go wrong?

This cycle will always lead to even more piracy. DRM is therefore not a good tool for fighting piracy.

This cycle will always lead to even more DRM. Piracy is therefore not a good tool for fighting DRM.

That is why I said it was a personal answer. This is why DRM solves nothing.