Don't forget the 'withholding love' option as well, so many people immediately jump to the physical punishment and forget about the psychological side of discipline. For instance maybe once or twice a year while they're in grade school don't make them a lunch or give them money for lunch that way they'll know who has the power.
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Dude you look like a outta shape Duke Nukem lol,and i have no clue why.howard_hughes post=18.69036.648175 said:
It's hard to point a finger at any one person, it's probably a mixture of the parents, the individual and (sometimes) their friends.
I remember when I got my 360 (it was a christmas present) I actually remember saying 'thank you' rather than breaking down into tears because I didn't get the limited edition Halo 3 version with 5 games, I suppose thats a natural side effect of having everything (i.e: you take it for granted).
What ever happened to angry mobs? (that would sort it out).
I remember when I got my 360 (it was a christmas present) I actually remember saying 'thank you' rather than breaking down into tears because I didn't get the limited edition Halo 3 version with 5 games, I suppose thats a natural side effect of having everything (i.e: you take it for granted).
What ever happened to angry mobs? (that would sort it out).
Is it just me or is it that we need to set ground rules? I mean really they take a cookie, you break their leg...what the fuck man?
All I got were time outs, a spanking if it were really bad, and that was it and but my parents also were relateable, I felt comfortable talking to them about problems or life in general.
But you shouldn't just let your kids go off all nimbly bimbly either
All I got were time outs, a spanking if it were really bad, and that was it and but my parents also were relateable, I felt comfortable talking to them about problems or life in general.
But you shouldn't just let your kids go off all nimbly bimbly either
I often wonder if that's less an attitude, or more of a kind of secret resentment as to how you yourself were treated. Much like the oft spoken: I had to walk five miles in the pouring rain to get to school.Reaperman Wompa post=18.69036.648111 said:
After all, because I had it tough as a kid, -of course- my children should know the pain I went through . That'll teach em'
That said. Fear and violence have been shown to be reasonably effective tools of control, although, not my own first choice personally. And eventually, it just turns into resentment, especially if no explanation is given as to -why- the child is being punished. If you feel the need to disipline your child this way, then at the very least make them understand why.
Second...on the notion of bringing anger to the table. It helps neither party. And more often then not is wasted anger. Example: Let's say a child is reaching up to the counter for a glass (old enough that they can already use it of course) and drops it, smashing it. Upon hearing this, the parent yells at the child, slaps them hard on the hand and sends them to their room. Now, what is the lesson here? That all mistakes no matter how minor are wrong, and an intentional thing on the part of the child to cause trouble? And further, this has upset the parent too, although one may wonder exactly -why- the parent would react this way to a broken glass, which under any other circumstance would be mild annoyance (presumably).
And, that example above I've seen many many times, both from my own point of view, seeing it happen to my siblings, and in other families. Always, minor things like that.
Who said anything about beating them when angry? I'm all for randomly smacking them and just saying "I know what you did."
Seriously, you only hit them when they do something wrong that NEEDS to be corrected. You don't hit them for spilling milk unless they stand there with the container pouring it on the floor. You don't beat them for wrecking the car, you beat them for drinking and driving.
And I believe in the let them learn themselves as long as it won't disfigure/kill them school.
My kid was playing by the electrical socket, I pulled her hand away 3 times saying "no, that will hurt you" then stopped trying to stop her. She got zapped and won't go near a light socket any more. Pain and fear are great learning tools for children until they learn how to reason. Once they learn how to reason the beatings usually stop working and you actually have to explain things to them.
Seriously, you only hit them when they do something wrong that NEEDS to be corrected. You don't hit them for spilling milk unless they stand there with the container pouring it on the floor. You don't beat them for wrecking the car, you beat them for drinking and driving.
And I believe in the let them learn themselves as long as it won't disfigure/kill them school.
My kid was playing by the electrical socket, I pulled her hand away 3 times saying "no, that will hurt you" then stopped trying to stop her. She got zapped and won't go near a light socket any more. Pain and fear are great learning tools for children until they learn how to reason. Once they learn how to reason the beatings usually stop working and you actually have to explain things to them.
Okay that post was disturbing. for one your daughter could have been killed and two pain and fear is what disfigure/kill them MENTALLY. So if you let your daughter do that stuff pally, get ready to pay for funeral. All of you if you have kids punish them by taking away tv and computer permission. Trust me I came home with some bad grades and I wasn't allowed to go on the computer or my ps2 for a month. hek yeah i paid more attention in school. and if their little kids have a "naughty" chair or something and btw those 2 videos made me want to throw my computer out a window lolasinann post=18.69036.648517 said:
I got 2 little brothers, joe(12) and vinny(3). Joe is an obnoxious, annoying bastard who barly respects our parents, annoys me to the point of me having to make a choice between breaking his stuff or his skull, and he watchs spongebob almost every day which annoys me because our computor is in the same room as the TV and it really gets annoying to lisen to(he's even watching it right now!). Vinny isn't that bad except that joe tells him to do things like to throw things at me or shut off the TV while in watching it, which is very frustrating because I can't hit him. The thing with joe seems to be that my parents never yelled at him loud enough. my parents never hit me but if I annoyed them enough then i would get yelled at pretty badly which at the time scared me. for example when we were all driving to my grandparents house and I wouldn't stop saying "I don't want to go to grandma's house" over and over agian until my dad finaly stoped the car got out, pulled me out and yelled into my face "say it one more god damned time and im gona leave you here!!!". needless to say that I never complained about going anywhere with them agian. Though aparently nothing like this happened to my little brother because we all just learned to live with him being a jackass for most of the day. also one of the things that really piss me off about him is that he WILL NOT answer the phone unless it is someone he wants to talk to, and even if he is the only person in the room he will just let it ring and yell for me to get it no matter what im doing.
damn, that sounds awful, I have an older brother (3 years older) and I might've ended up like your little brother if not for my parents who (in my mind) were a bit stricter with me, probably because I was more of a brat. I couldn't be happier now that I haven't ended up like any of these people.TMAN10112 post=18.69036.648873 said:
To all the people who whine and cry over physical punishment of children, do you not realize there is a MAJOR difference between slapping your child on the face/bottom/whatever and taking a belt and slamming them repeatedly across the back until giant bruises and welts form? Spanking your child and BEATING them are two terribly different things yet too many people in American society associate the two as being very much the same.
Here's the real problem, folks. I blame parents fully for the way their kids grow up. It is not society that makes or breaks them, it is completely up to the parent. Blame the child's peers, blame television, blame the internet, blame whoever the hell else you want, but what does it all boil down to? Mommy and Daddy have control over what their child watches, who their child hangs out with. But because they are too lazy as parents, they instead try to blame everyone else for the outcome. Or better yet, parents just let others around them influence how they should be as a parent. NO! If you've got kids and you see someone doing something that YOU PERSONALLY think is wrong of them (unless they are actually abusing the child, and I mean REAL abuse, not that "omg that boy was throwing a tantrum and disturbing everyone and wouldn't listen so mommy gave him a light pat on the bottom so I'm calling DHR and having a social worker investigate the abuse this child must suffer through day after day" crap you want to keep telling yourself is abuse), shut your mouth! It's not your place to tell other person what they should and shouldn't do as a parent. For example, recently one of the girls I work with had a baby. Two days after she was released from the hospital, she brought the baby for us to see. One customer noticed when I was holding her and started in on me. "Is that your baby? How old is she? Where's the mother? (her father brought her in)". After they left, this customer decided to let everyone in the store know how she felt about the "treatment" the baby was given. "I would NEVER bring my child out in public when they were only a few days old!" and she just would not shut up about it. Very self righteous woman, and she was trying to get us to answer personal questions about our employee. This was bad enough, but the kicker was the fact that all the while she is raving about what she thought was bad parenting, her 16ish year old daughter has her ass planted on our counter tops where we work to help other people. High counter tops so she would have had to climb up to get on them and she's right in front of her mother so there's no way she didn't notice.
So here's my thing. You wanna be a parent? Fine, parent YOUR OWN children. Leave other parents alone to do what it is they have to do to keep their children under control. YOU are in total control over the outcome of your offspring so have the backbone to tell others who are making you think you are doing wrong where to go and BE A PARENT! The last two generations have learned they are able to do whatever they want because parents have become too fearful, whether it be because of society's opinion of them, or because they think that whatever they do will be wrong for their child. It is YOUR FEAR and your fear alone as a parent that keeps children from growing up to be decent, upstanding human beings.
Here's the real problem, folks. I blame parents fully for the way their kids grow up. It is not society that makes or breaks them, it is completely up to the parent. Blame the child's peers, blame television, blame the internet, blame whoever the hell else you want, but what does it all boil down to? Mommy and Daddy have control over what their child watches, who their child hangs out with. But because they are too lazy as parents, they instead try to blame everyone else for the outcome. Or better yet, parents just let others around them influence how they should be as a parent. NO! If you've got kids and you see someone doing something that YOU PERSONALLY think is wrong of them (unless they are actually abusing the child, and I mean REAL abuse, not that "omg that boy was throwing a tantrum and disturbing everyone and wouldn't listen so mommy gave him a light pat on the bottom so I'm calling DHR and having a social worker investigate the abuse this child must suffer through day after day" crap you want to keep telling yourself is abuse), shut your mouth! It's not your place to tell other person what they should and shouldn't do as a parent. For example, recently one of the girls I work with had a baby. Two days after she was released from the hospital, she brought the baby for us to see. One customer noticed when I was holding her and started in on me. "Is that your baby? How old is she? Where's the mother? (her father brought her in)". After they left, this customer decided to let everyone in the store know how she felt about the "treatment" the baby was given. "I would NEVER bring my child out in public when they were only a few days old!" and she just would not shut up about it. Very self righteous woman, and she was trying to get us to answer personal questions about our employee. This was bad enough, but the kicker was the fact that all the while she is raving about what she thought was bad parenting, her 16ish year old daughter has her ass planted on our counter tops where we work to help other people. High counter tops so she would have had to climb up to get on them and she's right in front of her mother so there's no way she didn't notice.
So here's my thing. You wanna be a parent? Fine, parent YOUR OWN children. Leave other parents alone to do what it is they have to do to keep their children under control. YOU are in total control over the outcome of your offspring so have the backbone to tell others who are making you think you are doing wrong where to go and BE A PARENT! The last two generations have learned they are able to do whatever they want because parents have become too fearful, whether it be because of society's opinion of them, or because they think that whatever they do will be wrong for their child. It is YOUR FEAR and your fear alone as a parent that keeps children from growing up to be decent, upstanding human beings.
To the Super Sweet 16 thing, they actually making a show called Super Sweet 16 exile.
The parents of the spoiled brats are sending them in some third world country with no support except the villagers over there.
It's sad, I'm gonna be a teacher, I've just learned that you can't really do alot to deal with the situation, because of all the new rules that the School district had installed.
The parents of the spoiled brats are sending them in some third world country with no support except the villagers over there.
It's sad, I'm gonna be a teacher, I've just learned that you can't really do alot to deal with the situation, because of all the new rules that the School district had installed.
I agree with others that it is mostly parents who influence their child's personality, but sometimes parents just can't control who their children hang out with and how they end up acting because of those friends.
But on the specific personality trait of being spoiled rotten.. Friends don't teach that. At all. That's 100% parents. And should be neglect.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qWkQeX_RN9Q&NR=1
Her choice. Keep the red car she hates because it is red and sell all of her blue things, or keep her blue things and sell the red car. Didn't know she was going to park her car in her room.
And apparently all of the "Mckenzie" spoiled brat videos are an advertisement for a $9.99 pizza deal. Still, a good example though.
But on the specific personality trait of being spoiled rotten.. Friends don't teach that. At all. That's 100% parents. And should be neglect.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qWkQeX_RN9Q&NR=1
Her choice. Keep the red car she hates because it is red and sell all of her blue things, or keep her blue things and sell the red car. Didn't know she was going to park her car in her room.
And apparently all of the "Mckenzie" spoiled brat videos are an advertisement for a $9.99 pizza deal. Still, a good example though.
Most parents give their kids everything they want because they don't want to have to deal with them. Either that or to make them "love" them forever and ever and ever...