Poll: Britain as a Republic?

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Smudge91

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Liberaliter said:
Well the monarchy have no power anymore anyway, not after the civil war.

Way back then we basically established a parliamenary democracy which has been used throughout the world since.
Funnily enough Charles II had more power when he was restored than his father, and Cromwell was pratically a king in all but name the only thing stopping him was the army, as parliament was more royalist than the king, charles didn' really want power just to sit there looking pretty. The power started to drip away when his son James II went on the thrown and tried to convert the country to catholicism and then his own daughter overthrew him. The real power loss though was with Victoria as she signed over most power to parliament.
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Rolling Thunder

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stone0042 said:
Forgive me if I'm wrong
You are.


Rolling Thunder said:
Personally, I think removing the monarchy is unwise. Yes, they are privileged, but only to the same extent as other wealthy people are , barring the immediate Royal Family, who do have more privileges. However, those privileges are commensurate with their responsibilities to the nation - the ability to eat swans is hardly a great privilege.


Secondly, as a monarchy, it paradoxical makes it harder for an authoritarian state to be established, as it provides a secondary check upon the power of the state. In a republic, the government can say "Well, we were elected, we have a majority, we are serving the people by our actions", whereas, since the current government still offically serves both the people and Her Majesty, that argument can be invalidated for long enough, should the monarch be strong and respected enough (as Her Majesty is) for effective opposition to be taken. In essence, monarchy actually acts as a stabilising force on politics.

Thirdly, we come to the economic argument. Given that, while the Royal Family is maintained by the public purse, it seems odd that there should be an economic argument. But there is. In essence, the monarchy, being so unique and important to Britain, is a massive source of tourist revenue. Don't believe me? Go to Buckingham palace and count all the foreign tourists standing around there. Now, consider that these people will need food. They will need accommodation. They will need transport. Consider each one of those people a £400 pound injection into Britain's economy.

Now, multiply that number of people by 365.

That's a lot of money. A lot, lot more than we pay for our monarchy. Even if you assume only 15% of that is going into tax revenue, and discounting the multiplier effect....that is far, far more than we've paid for our Queen. And God Save Her Majesty.


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UberMore

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Ben7 said:
In one of my politcs classes a question came up regarding the pros and cons of replacing the monarchy for an elected head of state (such as a president).

Now I really believe in democracy and that the people should have the ability to vote for who they want to represent them. I hate the fact we have a hereditary lottery to decide for us, why should someone with a certain name have such substantial privelages over others? why should our tax money go towards them to enjoy such a great lifestyle? shouldn't it go towards more important things...

The monarch holds no substantial powers aswell so why do we need them, for historical and traditional values? I think thats just pointless when we can have a more effective government without it.


What are your thoughts?
The Monarchy hold the Power of Veto, which has proven to be very useful over the past 20 years; it stopped us from changing our Currency to the Euro. There was one trial day when we, Britain, used the Euro; the entire world crashed (essentially).
 

Downfall89

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I live in Australia, and the same question is often raised here, and it is the same answer here that it is in Britain; we are both rich first world countries that are very prosperous; don't fix what's not broken.
 

stone0042

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Rolling Thunder said:
stone0042 said:
Forgive me if I'm wrong
You are.
-snip-
My post. Read it, then comment.
Yeah, you make some compelling points. Makes sense. I actually have been to Buckingham Palace, visited England for 2 weeks a couple summers ago, and I can't argue that it must produce a ton of tourism revenue. Anyways, thanks for explaining, you convinced me.