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Quaxar

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SadakoMoose said:
Daystar Clarion said:
Hey, hey, hey...

SadakoMoose said:
A show about a group of middle aged men gawking about cars like teenagers?
Leave Top Gear alone. especially since you're advocating pro wrestling, which if anything, is more immature and pandering than Top Gear ever was.

Leave my boys alone.
Prove it. Prove that pro wrestling, based off the clips I've provided, is more immature than some 50 something year old man making GTA jokes while driving around like he just got his license.
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That is all.
If they start shooting wrestlers into space we can talk again.
 

Elementary - Dear Watson

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SadakoMoose said:
I admit, there have been a metric F' ton of good British TV shows, more so than almost any American network can lay claim to. But let's look at everything that's come inbetween:
Celebrity Big Brother, Hollyoaks, Brittania High, Whatever, Casualty, Eastenders, everything involving Michael Parkinson ever (except ghostwatch).
Just a cursory watching of screenwipe is all the evidence I really need, to see that you guys need something different.
Besides why is pro wrestling so bad? Did you watch the FWA clip I posted?
It's just a very important part of the cultural legacy that you've left the world, and I don't like seeing it be ignored by the very people from whence it came.
I was on Casulty... for that reason alone it is now a godly programme.

Also, wrestling!? Seriously...? NO!

I'd rather spoon my eyes out with a rusty tea-cup... Who cares whether we contributed to it as a country, or whether we are good at it... if it's not worth watching, it is not worth watching! For all I know we could be the world champions at boules/lawn-bowls too[footnote]Looked it up... we are![/footnote], but that doesn't make me want to watch that!

If we need more good stuff on TV brink back stuff like Spooks, Black Books and Spaced...

Or if we need more sport then Rugby! Hell... even Gladiators was better than damn Wrestling...! At least Gladiators was real, and had actual competition!
 

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I don't even watch TV anymore... I discovered anime after all XD

Plus y'know the TV quality went down fast. Not as bad as the US, but still pretty shocking. And wresting is not my thing unless it's this.


STOP THE CHAIRS!
 

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Doctor Who, Top Gear, Dirk Gently, Sherlock, Star Gate... things like that are good to watch because their entire existence is for entertainment.

Britain's Got talent, X Factor, The Voice - Piss off. You're boring, trivialising, fabricated pieces of shit.

I just finished watching HBO's Band of Brothers & The Pacific on DVD and fuck me, were they good! TV needs more stuff like that... and Doctor Who... and Star Gate. Bring back Star Gate! Fuck SyFy UK's new shit.

Sorry for swearing, but TV programs are almost as bad as most adverts now. Rephrase: Are as bad in some cases (Dancing on Ice, X Factor).
 

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The Wykydtron said:
I don't even watch TV anymore... I discovered anime after all XD

Plus y'know the TV quality went down fast. Not as bad as the US, but still pretty shocking. And wresting is not my thing unless it's this.


STOP THE CHAIRS!
Man, wasn't ECW great?
It's even where Christopher Daniels made his US tv debut!
 

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Apart from being a poorly veiled attempt to deride British TV and culture, what is the point of this thread?

If you're such an aficionado of wrestling and British TV, then you'd be aware that The World of Sport, Japanese Pro Wrestling and most other, non-WWE wrestling is shown on British TV daily on The Wrestling Channel.

Having an entire channel dedicated to wrestling that constantly broadcasts wrestling is enough, but the fact that there's only one dedicated wrestling channel and it's shows aren't broadcast by the main TV stations speaks volumes about the popularity of such a niche form of entertainment.

If Pro-Wrestling was popular and good enough to be shown on the main channels then it would be, but it's not so it isn't.

At least the BBC recognises real Wrestling as a legitimate combat sport that exists:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/wrestling/default.stm
 

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Ahri said:
Madaxeman101 said:
Wrestling really does nothing for me, black mirror however actually gets me slightly aroused thinking about how awesome it is.
This, if you replace 'aroused' with 'excited'.

The pig episode.. No, just no. It was too awkward.
Yea the pig episode was a bit grim :/
 

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Jamash said:
Apart from being a poorly veiled attempt to deride British TV and culture, what is the point of this thread?

If you're such an aficionado of wrestling and British TV, then you'd be aware that The World of Sport, Japanese Pro Wrestling and most other, non-WWE wrestling is shown on British TV daily on The Wrestling Channel.

Having an entire channel dedicated to wrestling that constantly broadcasts wrestling is enough, but the fact that there's only one dedicated wrestling channel and it's shows aren't broadcast by the main TV stations speaks volumes about the popularity of such a niche form of entertainment.

If Pro-Wrestling was popular and good enough to be shown on the main channels then it would be, but it's not so it isn't.

At least the BBC recognises real Wrestling as a legitimate combat sport that exists:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/wrestling/default.stm
It got renamed "The Fight Channel" and was then taken off the air.
Also, network executives are idiots that speak in business bibble...
"So if we can market share the demographic we can action real cohesion and network fortitude for our flagship front of new IP's. Oh, and more reality shows."
 

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Um... I don't like TV much but there is not enough 'No' in me to fully express the amount of 'No' I wish to convey.

...No.

Also why bother with a poll if that's going to be it.
 

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I. Hate. "Professional." Wrestling.

If I wanted to see two steroid junkies act out an intimidation, and then play fight while all oiled up and getting into provocative situations, with the crowd so brain dead they'd lose to Helen Keller in a game of mastermind mindlessly shouting 'kill him' while the wrestlers pretend to break each others legs, I'd go to my nearest S&M gay-bar.

In fact no, that's not fair on the gay-bar.
 

SadakoMoose

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Robert Ewing said:
I. Hate. "Professional." Wrestling.

If I wanted to see two steroid junkies act out an intimidation, and then play fight while all oiled up and getting into provocative situations, with the crowd so brain dead they'd lose to Helen Keller in a game of mastermind mindlessly shouting 'kill him' while the wrestlers pretend to break each others legs, I'd go to my nearest S&M gay-bar.

In fact no, that's not fair on the gay-bar.
Wow...
It's like you've never seen a gay bar before...
Or a wrestling match...
Or watched any of the videos I posted, none of which include large 'roided up blokes, chants of "kill him", or even oil...
It's almost like your some kind of homophobe that just wandered into this thread, saw that it involved pro wrestling, and then clicked reply out of a hateful gut reaction.
This is EASILY the worst, most bile filled, post I have ever seen in my entire time on the Escapist...
Good Job!
 

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Speaking as an American, the BBC is pretty much the only source of good (live action) TV left. If you really want to see some bad TV, come to America. If you want to see some formerly good TV that was ruined, in part, by pro wrestling, tune into the SyFy channel while you're here. It's not pretty.
 

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Owyn_Merrilin said:
Speaking as an American, the BBC is pretty much the only source of good (live action) TV left. If you really want to see some bad TV, come to America. If you want to see some formerly good TV that was ruined, in part, by pro wrestling, tune into the SyFy channel while you're here. It's not pretty.
I am an American, actually.
I wouldn't say that ECW/NXT/Smackdown really played all that much of a role in ruining SyFy, more so I would blame network mandates. Keep in mind, SyFy is owned by NBC Universal, and at the end of the day, network executives will usually pick statistics and buzzword and numbers over shows that fit the original focus of the network or carry some artistic merit. By and large, SyFy still shows programs that fit it's overall design. I think their real problem is a decline in show quality, as well as the overuse of those damn Original Movies.
But no, wrestling didn't ruin the network. It just rubbed the wrong fan boys the wrong way.
 

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SadakoMoose said:
Owyn_Merrilin said:
Speaking as an American, the BBC is pretty much the only source of good (live action) TV left. If you really want to see some bad TV, come to America. If you want to see some formerly good TV that was ruined, in part, by pro wrestling, tune into the SyFy channel while you're here. It's not pretty.
I am an American, actually.
I wouldn't say that ECW/NXT/Smackdown really played all that much of a role in ruining SyFy, more so I would blame network mandates. Keep in mind, SyFy is owned by NBC Universal, and at the end of the day, network executives will usually pick statistics and buzzword and numbers over shows that fit the original focus of the network or carry some artistic merit. By and large, SyFy still shows programs that fit it's overall design. I think their real problem is a decline in show quality, as well as the overuse of those damn Original Movies.
But no, wrestling didn't ruin the network. It just rubbed the wrong fan boys the wrong way.
Wrestling was a part of the executive meddling that ruined the network. It may be a symbol more than a direct cause, but it's a pretty darned good one.

Sleekit said:
Owyn_Merrilin said:
Speaking as an American, the BBC is pretty much the only source of good (live action) TV left. If you really want to see some bad TV, come to America. If you want to see some formerly good TV that was ruined, in part, by pro wrestling, tune into the SyFy channel while you're here. It's not pretty.
don't be so hard on yourself. there are decent American shows. just not as many as the crap ones.

CSI Vs The Wire if you like.

besides i heard Game of Thrones is pretty good...not that any UK station has decided to buy it yet *mumble grumble*...
It's out there, but it's all either, like Game of Thrones, on premium channels that most people can't afford, or like The Wire, old and long since off the air. American TV got really dark and cynical in the aftermath of 9/11, and depressing cynical shows are pretty much all we have aside from mediocre sitcoms and obnoxious reality TV. At least the BBC has Doctor Who, various Gordon Ramsay shows [footnote]That man could make a show about watching paint dry, and find a way to make it entertaining[/footnote] and Top Gear -- and BBC America has Star Trek: The Next Generation, which is more than I can say for SyFy...
 

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TV mostly (But not completely) sucks. I watch occasionally for comedy panel shows such as "Would you lie to me?", "Have I got News for You" and, most notably "QI".
There's too much "reality TV" nowadays and more than enough soap operas to keep me disinterested. Professional Wrestling probably isn't going to change anything for me as far as TV is concerned.

I'm probably not going to actually set aside time for TV until the next Dr Who series airs.
 

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Daystar Clarion said:
It's the same level of acting that a stunt man employs, sure I can admire it from a technical perspective, i.e., being able to do dangerous shit without breaking their own necks etc, but it's not something I would sit down and watch, and I certainly wouldn't laud them as talent deserving of recognition.
no it's not, first off let me preface this by saying I don't think wrestling is better than most TV shows, although it is more entertaining than a few.

The idea that wrestling is fake stems from the idea that the matches are pre-determined, while it's true that they are the actual wrestling is extremely physically involved and injuries are a common thing in wrestling.

the kayfabe (the idea that wrestlers need to 'stay in character') only makes some of these matches even more memorable. It's not uncommon for a wrestler to be injured during a match, but finish the match anyway.

not to mention these people wrestle roughly 5-6 times a week, they may only be actor's but they are some of the hardest working actor's around.

if you're not into it that's fine, just don't assume these guys have an easy job.

IrishAdams said:
Where does Canada Stand? Pfft.
Canada loves them some wrestling, heck some of the biggest wrestlers of all time are from Canada.

and in this case wrestling actually is better than most of our Cancon shows(~40% Canadian content in broadcasting)

except Mr. D and Trailer park boys. Those shows are gold.