Poll: Bullied teen recieves free plastic surgery

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Radelaide

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Two points.

1. I can understand why she would see herself with "dumbo ears". Peers have no idea how badly they can cause psychological damage (to the point of BDD). After it got pointed out to her, she could possibly have been obsessed with how they looked.

2. I don't think that "free" plastic surgery on a 14 year old is safe. Not unless precautions have been taken. Counselling about her appearance and what this procedure is going to mean. I hope she realises this isn't a quick fix and that her bullies will probably find something new to tease her about.

I think she's very pretty and she'll show the little brats what she's got.
 

Moonlight Butterfly

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Casual Shinji said:
Moonlight Butterfly said:
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Verbal bullying is just as damaging as physical bullying and people should be punished for it. It's not hard to tell who the ringleaders are. Bullying isn't an accident it's deliberate and teachers just ignore it because they don't want the hassle.

I don't think it's 'oversensitive' to be against something that can be permanently damaging.
That's not what I'm getting at. Ofcourse bullying in any form is damaging to a person of any age.

But it's not as simple as saying 'those are the ringleaders'. I myself have probably unwittingly bullied others by poking fun at them or ignoring them. Not because I hated these people, but just because you can't get along with everyone you meet. And as human beings we tend to bond to those we can get along with and ignore, or be hostile to, people that we don't get along with. Essentially it's this mindset that all bullying comes from, but it's also human nature.

There's plenty of situations where there are ringleaders and istigators, but there's just as many or even more where it's simple mob mentality. And for the later there is really no solution.
Then they should make a harsh example of the worst offenders so the rest think twice.
 

annoyinglizardvoice

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Firstly I think she's too young to be making a decision about cosmetic surgery.
Secondly I think both bowing down to the bullies' taunts and encouraging shallowness amongst youngsters both set a very bad precedence.
Thirdly I feel cosmetic surgery is a waste of medical talent.
 

Bato

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No.
Seriously I think it would be more helpful reinforcing some kind of way for kids to stand up for themselves. Even if not physically.
If you keep sheltering these kids and policing bullying.. They're going to be socially fucked up.

Hell I was picked on when I was a kid too, like everyone else and their dog. My Mom's reaction was to coddle. My Dad's reaction was "Suck it up, grow thicker skin, and just ignore them."
My Dad was never a very vocal or expressive person, while my mom was. And of course I preferred my mom's way.
Late teens, I had problems coping with the social issues of growing up and accepting responsibility which kinda fucked up my whole College thing.

It wasn't until after that disaster did I.. Grow thicker skin, suck it up, and learn to say "Fuck you" and get on with my life when shit happened.
Now I know that shit happens, and haters will hate. So sit back and enjoy life, if you worry over people you're going to ruin yourself.
 

Faladorian

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Moonlight Butterfly said:
Then they should make a harsh example of the worst offenders so the rest think twice.
While I agree and am personally aware of the damage that bullying causes, it happens to everyone. People will be verbally abused their whole life. It's human nature to exclude others to feel better about one's self.

Just think: If the Special Edition of some famous character collectible figurine was available to all people with no time limit and a low price tag, not many people would want it. Know why? Because people feel special when they're part of a small group that they can consider elite. Therefore, exclusion expedites those feelings.

I know it's not the most beautiful facet of humanity, but thinking that bullying can ever be stopped in any way other than pure fascist brute force is kind of naive. I appreciate the motive, but I think it's futile.
 

Moonlight Butterfly

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Faladorian said:
Moonlight Butterfly said:
Then they should make a harsh example of the worst offenders so the rest think twice.
While I agree and am personally aware of the damage that bullying causes, it happens to everyone. People will be verbally abused their whole life. It's human nature to exclude others to feel better about one's self.

Just think: If the Special Edition of some famous character collectible figurine was available to all people with no time limit and a low price tag, not many people would want it. Know why? Because people feel special when they're part of a small group that they can consider elite. Therefore, exclusion expedites those feelings.

I know it's not the most beautiful facet of humanity, but thinking that bullying can ever be stopped in any way other than pure fascist brute force is kind of naive. I appreciate the motive, but I think it's futile.
I don't think it's fascist to want people to be well while bullies swan off and have a great life.

If a child constantly bullies others then they should be punished for it. Unfortunately we have a victim blaming society that thinks it's people being oversensitive or that they shouldn't act a certain way because it encourages the bullies.

That's a load of rubbish people should be able to express themselves and live in peace and without the fear of someone making their life a living hell to the point they take their own life or anothers.
 

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Funny, spent my entire school life being bullied with everything from verbal insults to needing medical attention, for something a lot more obvious (birthmark on 1/4 of my face) and the school and police just told me to put up with it.
 

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I don't think it's fascist to want people to be well while bullies swan off and have a great life.
No no, I meant the only solution, as other suggested, would be ridiculous security measures and such, constantly monitoring kids in a weaponized environment. I suppose I should explain myself more before using a buzz word like "fascism." My apologies.

If a child constantly bullies others then they should be punished for it. Unfortunately we have a victim blaming society that thinks it's people being oversensitive or that they shouldn't act a certain way because it encourages the bullies.
It's true, we do live in a victim-blaming society. I think it just comes from the knee jerk reaction of people getting attention for things other people had to deal with alone. "I was bullied, so she should just deal with it." Et cetera.

That's a load of rubbish people should be able to express themselves and live in peace and without the fear of someone making their life a living hell to the point they take their own life or anothers.
Well, I think the problem lies more in a combination of human nature and the environment that schools somehow devolve into.

I don't know why the middle/high school environment is as cutthroat and vindictive as it is, to the point that it very literally has formed its own caste system. I went through it, and nowhere along the way did I realize why it was that way. I started out being the victim, then I went on to try to fit in, then I became depressed, then I became a bully myself. By the end of high school I just refused to acknowledge the existence of the other students. I just had to put in my six hours then I could go home and forget about the day.

Whatever possesses humans to act that way when in a group is the problem, and chastising individuals for it isn't exactly the best way to do it.

I know, it's just one of those very shitty facts of life that the bullies (excluding those who were killed by their "prey" or arrested) do get away scot-free. It's unfair but, hey, so is life.

Also, the victims aren't the only ones with severe personality disorders. The bullying comes from that too, and spreads like a disease. At the end of the day, the bullies still win because they managed to make everybody as miserable as they are.
 

Wintermoot

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yeah because they totally aren't going to bully her for that
they'll just look for something other to bully her for and tbh she didn't look that bad
 

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I'm going with 'it depends'. If you had a real disfigurement then of course it would seem to make everybody happier to allow you to sort it out, as it were... She doesn't exactly look like she NEEDED it though, hence it depends.
 

blackrave

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Generally I defend plastic surgery, but not in this case
Plastic surgeries should be used only in severe cases

Major_Tom said:
I would rather hand out free knives for bullied kids.
A little extreme, but yes investing in martial arts is better solution.
Punching bully worked for me, and I even wasn't the one being bullied :)

Captcha: love me?
I'm sorry to break your heart but "no" :(
 

Lord Kloo

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Off-topic those surgeons did a bloody good job improving on what wasn't broken

OT: Its not wrong that she had this surgery done but if the money could have gone to cases of children with more severe deformities I'd be a little pee-ed off.. but as it stands it appears this charity has enough money to spend on even the minor cases as well as more serious ones.. hopefully
 

Ryotknife

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The bullying wasn't about how she looked, even if that's what they said. Bullying is an attempt by low status people who fear ending in low status to get higher, or who fear someone else gaining a high status, so they kick them down to try and get on top.

This will not change no matter how she looks.

And where's the school in all this? It's their job to do something about bullying pupils.
uh, school administrations generally have no balls anymore. They will do the bare minimum to protect their ass and nothing more, because if they do get proactive they open themselves up to lawsuits from the "little Jimmy is a perfect angel and if you accuse him of bullying we will sue you" parents that are coming out of the woodwork.

Yahtzee called it, tell every child that they are special and all you get is a room full of twats.

Im actually interested if my principle from my high school still works there. He would get proactive against bullying and if their parents threatened him with a lawsuit he would get right in their faces and laugh. Never realized how important a good administration is to the well being of a school system, i always thought it was just a cushy job where you didnt have to do anything and are nothing more than a figurehead.

The incompetent and spineless administrations is just one of the problems our school system faces, the others being the sue happy helicopter parents and the politicians getting involved and mucking everything up (although it was the politicians who screwed everything up first).
 

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Don't really see how plastic surgery would help against bullying.

Unless you simply need it because you got facial scarring from a bully's wrath, I doubt it can make you less of a target.
 

Yan007

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Looking at the before and after pics, the doctors did a really good job. /Thumbs up
 

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I absolutely respect her right to make changes for what she believe to be the betterment of herself. Having her ears pinned, I absolutely see no issue with. The problem I have with this is the surgeon suggesting she have more done. I'm by no means an expert, and I could see where he was coming from with the misalignment, but from what I understood she didn't have a problem with her chin and nose.

For him to suggest she should get them done seems like a slap in the face to me. The surgeon preferring slimmer chins does not justify him encouraging her to get the surgery.

I'm glad to see she's happy with herself, I absolutely am, but I have an uneasy feeling about him suggesting she have more than her ears done.
 

lemby117

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This girl is only 14? Gunna start carding them all now.

It's hard to believe she was actually bullied for her ears. The other picture didn't look freakishly horrid or anything. But I'll take a leap of faith here...

OT: Parental consent, psych sessions, all the proper protocol followed, sure. Teens can have a certain amount of work done. But there should be a line drawn at what's too much. The fact that they are still growing sounds like some elective surgeries could be a bad thing. Just pining her ears back a bit? Not a big deal.

EDIT: Awww hell no. I just watched the cnn video... WTF?! The doctor talked her into two more surgeries?! That's fucked up. I guess the 'since we're there' type of thinking kinda bothers me a bit. But the end results are damn good.
Yeah it makes me glad I'm 15 and therefore I can say that I want to bone her, in all seriousness though I voted no in the poll because I am against giving in to bullies and if I were running the charity I would force the bullies to get the sugery, then make them all disgusting MWHAHAHAH, wait were was I.

TLDR; Don't like that she caved into bullies, but she now looks super hot, and I'm 15 so dont judge me damnit. :p
 

badreaper74

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I think its a dam joke.

Guess what girl your not the only one that got picked in elementary and middle school. you know why because your are kid and your classmates are kids. what do kids do they call you names. BOO-HOO.

I was bullied in little school too. It was so bad i wouldn't even look my friends and family in the eyes. i would always walk with my head down and never say anything and hope no one would notice i was there. I was pretty smart, had a big nose(which i still do by the way), and had a New England accent( which really screws with you r's) and had just moved to a Pennsylvania, i weighed maybe 95 lbs soaking wet my 7th grade year. Yea i was pretty easy target for bullies and did they ever dish it out. You know what i didn't do is go crying to my parents until they let me have plastic surgery. I started to play football and eat right. As luck would have it at the end of my 8th grade year(which i was still getting made fun of in) i hit a growth spurt.

By the beginning of the freshman year i was pushing 180 lbs, was looking you in the eye when I talked to you, and wasn't getting picked on anymore.

Why changed? First of all i was bigger so no guys would give me crap plus i had an entire team to stand behind me. Second, I saw what i had done. I knew that the power to change my course and myself can from within me and even if you called me ugly or big nose those thing were superficial and really didn't matter. I didn't need myself respect to come from my looks. Thirdly, and most importantly, my classmates grew up just as much as i had. They now saw thier petty name calling for what it was, CHILDISH.

On a final note I just want to say yea her ears are different but did you notice how much blonder she is?

So Nadia Ilse have fun spending the rest of your life judging yourself on what other people thing of you.