Poll: Can an android be human?

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spuddyt

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Can't be human, could reach a level of intellect where it would be unjust not to give it human rights
 

high_castle

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I think it's rather arrogant to assume we know everything that could or will happen in the future. This is one of those things you can't make predictions about because the technology's not quite there yet. Will it be? It's hard to say. I suppose the answer boils down to your thoughts about technology and the human soul. If you believe in the soul, I imagine it would be hard to assign one to an artificial intelligence. But from a strictly technological standpoint, I think we'll eventually have computers that can make as many decisions and as quickly as the human brain, if we're not there already. The true question becomes will the computer develop sentience? And that's something no one's sure of.
 

Hoxton

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S.H.A.R.P. said:
Hoxton said:
an android is MADE by humans. Therefore no.
Aren't children made by humans too?
I expected this kind of a reply. so an edit:
Humans are made via biological reproduction, unlike androids made by humans via industrial means
 

new_age_reject

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They are made by humans... or at least machines made by machines designed by humans.
So no.
 

not a zaar

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I sure hope not. Imagine if we had to give machines and computers human rights, all the easy conveniences we take for granted would practically disappear.
 

PureChaos

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KenzS said:
Bicentennial Man anyone?

Android's are meant to look like a human. I suppose if you gave it a human brain it would be human. The brain contains the most of our characteristics, I doubt it could be replicated.
my thoughts exactly. Bicentennial Man is an AMAZING film!
 

Ben Legend

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In my opinion No. A human is born, raised and develops.
It can be argued that an android goes through these. I.e Created = Born.

But they will never truly develop oor have what it takes to be human.
 

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GothmogII said:
Depends, obviously, an android designed to emulate human thinking is iffy. However: What about human to machine mind conversion? It's essentially the same thing, that is to emulate the thought processes of a human being, only in this case you already -have- those thought processes, all you're doing is either downloading or copying them into the machine as data.

Then, once the human mind is inside...what's the difference between that mind and a machine? Similarly, if you can create a thinking, cognitive machine, isn't that the same thing as the downloaded conciousness? (Providing obviously it can be emulated to a sufficient degree.)

I don't know, an android isn't human. But asking that is the wrong question. Is it sentient? That's what you should be asking. If the answer is yes, then whether or not it's human is irrelevant, what matters is that it is a thinking being.
This, pretty much

In The Fifth Head of Cerberus, there is a man who has had his brain/memories/thought processes/whatever downloaded onto a machine. The man is long dead, but the machine lives on. It cannot help but think itself as a human in a robot body, but also thinks of the original man as being someone else, and occasionally has existential crises about it

Hoxton said:
S.H.A.R.P. said:
Hoxton said:
an android is MADE by humans. Therefore no.
Aren't children made by humans too?
I expected this kind of a reply. so an edit:
Humans are made via biological reproduction, unlike androids made by humans via industrial means
The difference being?

Granted, one is made inside a human body, and one is made outside, but if both 'creations' have the same capacity for knowledge and emotion, what is to differentiate them except the materials from which they are made?
 

KenzS

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PureChaos said:
my thoughts exactly. Bicentennial Man is an AMAZING film!

Asimov's best film in my opinion.

Andrew Martin had everything a human had. Organs, circulatory system, even nerves. The only thing separating him from the human's was his positronic brain, which also possessed human-like qualities.
 

S.H.A.R.P.

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Hoxton said:
S.H.A.R.P. said:
Hoxton said:
an android is MADE by humans. Therefore no.
Aren't children made by humans too?
I expected this kind of a reply. so an edit:
Humans are made via biological reproduction, unlike androids made by humans via industrial means
What the..? You mean.. Well, babies aren't made somewhere and then shipped by a white stork? Amazing! Tell me more about it please! Biological you say. So they grow out of the ground without the use of pesticides?
 

KenzS

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S.H.A.R.P. said:
Hoxton said:
I expected this kind of a reply. so an edit:
Humans are made via biological reproduction, unlike androids made by humans via industrial means


So what if two organically engineered androids reproduced their own child? The child was biologically reproduced, so does that mean it's human?
 

The_Prophet

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a very pointless question. No Artificial Intelligence cannot be human because it's Artificial and it's a machine. (sorry Data)
 

The_Prophet

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KenzS said:
S.H.A.R.P. said:
Hoxton said:
I expected this kind of a reply. so an edit:
Humans are made via biological reproduction, unlike androids made by humans via industrial means

So what if two organically engineered androids reproduced their own child? The child was biologically reproduced, so does that mean it's human?
No, because it would be made by machines. Last time I checked we aren't made by machines.
 

Kingsman

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I think that since even humans can barely understand what emotions are, getting a machine, which struggles to learn quantifiable data, voice recognition, and real-world visuals, to learn something of that nature, is at this point and time a pipe-dream.