Poll: Can an android be human?

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messy

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El Taco the Rogue said:
Can artificial intelligence ever be human? And I mean, proper Asimovesque intelligence, not a microwave.
The reverse of this is if someone has electronic replacements for some of there human organs/limbs do they stop becoming human. personally I don't think so unless the brain is replaced.

So the only way to make them "human" is the create an exact model of the brain, and somehow have it grow so it can experience the human experience. This sounds unlikely so I vote "No"
 

Lenny Magic

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From a perspective of science it is quite possible, but I really doubt we will see anything like this in our life time.

But if you think about it we could see human characteristics in a machine, if its ability to emulate us was high enough, or if its function became meaningful enough to us.

Like a dog.
 

Jamash

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KenzS said:
Bicentennial Man anyone?

Android's are meant to look like a human. I suppose if you gave it a human brain it would be human. The brain contains the most of our characteristics, I doubt it could be replicated.
That's debatable. There's evidence to suggest that out characteristics, consciousness and instincts aren't contained in the brain at all, but in the cerebral spinal fluid (and possibly other organs too).

There have been cases of people born without any brain matter, or who's brains have been reduced by fluid (hydrocephalus).

There's even a famous case of a university student with a 126 IQ and 1st class degree in mathematics, who only had 4mm of brain matter.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Lorber
http://www.flatrock.org.nz/topics/science/is_the_brain_really_necessary.htm

So I don't think simple putting a brain into an android will make it human.

I think there's more to being human than simply having a brain, and despite being 'biological machines', I don't believe that our consciousness (or soul, if you like) can be replicated easily.

Even if every part of our biological form could be recreated artificially, I think our consciousness would remain the elusive, missing piece of the puzzle.
 

Zombie_Fish

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I have strong doubts about it happening. Even artificial intelligence has its limits.

There's a test of artificial intelligence where people have a text based conversation with either another human or a machine (They have no idea which) and the machine needs to respond like a human would. Up to this point no machine has ever succeeded that test. Whether or not it will happen in the future's questionnable but I have strong doubts about it happening.
 

fix-the-spade

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No.

If it developed personality, or what cold be thought of as a soul it still would not be human, it would be a species in it's own right.
 

oliveira8

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I have a better question!

Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep?

If machines can perform racional "thinking" would they be considered a racional creature just like humans?

That is the point of Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep? and Battlestar Galactica.
 

cobra_ky

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it's a poorly worded question. if you're asking whether androids will ever be part of the species homo sapiens, then probably not. i'm pretty sure that androids by definition aren't human, and even if we did something like bioengineer a complete human body we probably wouldn't consider it an android.

i think what you really meant to ask was "can an android be intelligent?" there is a big, big difference between being intelligent and being human, but people tend to be short-sighted and define intelligence in terms of human ability. take chess playing computers, for example. they're much better at chess than most people, but most people don't think they're really intelligent because they brute force solutions instead of really "learning" the game of chess. but what if we met a race of aliens who played chess the same way? would we consider them intelligent? what if they couldn't speak? if we were to encounter a form of intelligence wildly different from our own, would we even recognize it?

i don't know if androids will ever be intelligent because we don't really know what intelligence is. however, i can easily foresee a point in the future where AI thinking becomes almost indistinguishable from human intelligence and at that point the question will be rendered moot.

Zombie_Fish said:
I have strong doubts about it happening. Even artificial intelligence has its limits.

There's a test of artificial intelligence where people have a text based conversation with either another human or a machine (They have no idea which) and the machine needs to respond like a human would. Up to this point no machine has ever succeeded that test. Whether or not it will happen in the future's questionnable but I have strong doubts about it happening.
people have been fooled by machines acting like humans for decades. the Turing Test is a flawed method of determining intelligence because it relies on subjective opinion which differs from person to person.

KenzS said:
Asimov's best film in my opinion.
asimov never made films >.<
 

murphy7801

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KenzS said:
Bicentennial Man anyone?

Android's are meant to look like a human. I suppose if you gave it a human brain it would be human. The brain contains the most of our characteristics, I doubt it could be replicated.
is a truly awful film and just go read some Philip k dick
 

Deathsquirt

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Since choices made by machines need to already have been put in by a programmer I'd say no AI could ever reach the same level as humans. It can be programmed to do almost anything but imagination would be out of its reach, obviously not counting randomization.

Any references to an AI from your favorite seem as moot to me as saying "there can be, because I'd like there to be."
 

KaiusCormere

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I have no doubt that machines will outdo biological life forms in every facet of possibility. It may take hundreds of years, but they are capable of "thinking" so many times faster than we are.
 

cordeos

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its sorta moot right now, we are nowhere near creating true artificial intelligence, i personally believe that it may not even be possible
 

GazJD

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I don't see why a machine could not reach a conscious state of mind 'like' a human, but in my opinion they will never be human. Think of it like a microwave and a conventional gas oven: They both can cook and heat food, but they will never be one in the same.
 

P1p3s

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i vote no - im too lazy to explain (a machine wouldnt be - i think that is evidence enough)