Poll: Can an android be human?

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DigitalSushi

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fenrizz said:
ColdStorage said:
fenrizz said:
I voted no.
It's a machine, therefore it is not human. simple as that.
yes but only by human language can you actually say that is it not human, what is human exactly?

You can't answer the OP's question because different people and animal's have completly different views as to what human is, take a dog for exactly, well trained under the tutelage of a human... a human tells the dog to sit and the dog sits.

Make a robot that says "sit" and the dog sits, once again to the animal kingdom for all intents and purposes thinks that robot is the alpha male, we merely surplant that dominance on ourselves cos we are big heads innit.

being able to get a dog to sit, does it make it human? because a robot has recreated a human exercise?.

we make houses, beavers create dam's, beavers knew more about the structural intergraty of buildings in rushing water then we knew about at the start of the 19th century, does that make them more human at the time?.

Anyway, what is the definition of "human"?, acting like a prick on an internet forum?. I'd prefer to be a robot.
Sorry if I have offended you. I certainly did not intend to come off as a prick.
Oh god no, I'm so sorry Fenrizz, I wasn't calling you a prick on forums, that was meant to be a general statement. I only quoted you for the first paragraph!.

I've re read what I've wrote and it does come accross like i'm calling you a prick, man I'm so sorry dude, that wasn't my desired effect, I thought I was been all clever and shit ...

unfortunatly I'm only human.
 

Redingold

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If it can pass the Turing Test, why not?

I don't mean physically human, rather mentally human.
 

fenrizz

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ColdStorage said:
fenrizz said:
ColdStorage said:
fenrizz said:
I voted no.
It's a machine, therefore it is not human. simple as that.
yes but only by human language can you actually say that is it not human, what is human exactly?

You can't answer the OP's question because different people and animal's have completly different views as to what human is, take a dog for exactly, well trained under the tutelage of a human... a human tells the dog to sit and the dog sits.

Make a robot that says "sit" and the dog sits, once again to the animal kingdom for all intents and purposes thinks that robot is the alpha male, we merely surplant that dominance on ourselves cos we are big heads innit.

being able to get a dog to sit, does it make it human? because a robot has recreated a human exercise?.

we make houses, beavers create dam's, beavers knew more about the structural intergraty of buildings in rushing water then we knew about at the start of the 19th century, does that make them more human at the time?.

Anyway, what is the definition of "human"?, acting like a prick on an internet forum?. I'd prefer to be a robot.
Sorry if I have offended you. I certainly did not intend to come off as a prick.
Oh god no, I'm so sorry Fenrizz, I wasn't calling you a prick on forums, that was meant to be a general statement. I only quoted you for the first paragraph!.

I've re read what I've wrote and it does come accross like i'm calling you a prick, man I'm so sorry dude, that wasn't my desired effect, I thought I was been all clever and shit ...

unfortunatly I'm only human.
phew, that's a relief. I was feeling like a jerk here.
Oh well.
But, I do get your point on the matter.
I haven't really any good arguments at this time to support my views, but I'll see if I can't come up with some.
 

fulano

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If we look at the human brain as nothing but a computer where certain segments process certain specific tasks then, yeah, it could. That is if we revise what it means to be human.

We could create a software program to process information like we do(via a very advanced neural network) once we figure out how the brain works. If we do that, and it works, who the hell are you to tell that that thing is not a person? Who gave you that power to deliver over what is and isn't after being confronted with evidence?

I just know that the day we do it, and yes we will, there'll be a shit storm.
 

Noone From Nowhere

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If the definition of Android is any synthetic humanoid, then the answer is yes, granted that the android is a 'simple' carbon copy of a human. If it is a mechanical android, then the answer is no, it can not be human any more than a stack of compact discs can be a cheese burger.
Why would anyone want androids to be exactly like humans when they wouldn't be subject to the same natural laws and environmental pressures that produced Humanity, anyway?
 

Nurb

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Dec 9, 2008
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The goal of AI is complete replication of the workings of the human mind: self preservation, anger, fear, creativity, etc.. and at that point they will be 'beings' wanting equal rights because we will think the same, just with human thought being biological, and synthetic thought being mechanical. Same destination, different route, because all human and animal instinct is really just biological and chemical programming.

so while they technicly can't be HUMAN, they will eventually be equal with the same desires and capabilities as humans. Of course we're talking far far down the road for that.

Second Rennaisance Anyone? :D