Poll: Can an opinion be wrong?
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Hitler had an opinion, was he NOT wrong?
Kidding aside, of course an opinion can be wrong, if proven of course by having more logic, facts and reason behind your OWN opinion.
That's how debates work.
Kidding aside, of course an opinion can be wrong, if proven of course by having more logic, facts and reason behind your OWN opinion.
That's how debates work.
<color=purple> Ummmm, if you opinion is that an orange is a suspension bridge, then yes, I would say your opinion is wrong.
There's a difference between opinion and false facts. False facts can be proven wrong at any point. An opinion can only be wrong if the person saying the opinion doesn't have the right information about the subject matter because it will cause an opinion about something that doesn't necessarily exist.Daystar Clarion said:
For example: Super Mario Bros 3 is the best game ever because it has the best aiming and guns that any FPS player could want.
An opinion can be a reference to a belief, and a belief (Such as "The Holocaust didn't happen" or "The Sun revolves around the Earth") may be proved demonstrably false. Thus the opinion is wrong.
Anyway... there's already a ton of posts, but I only read the first page, so tell me if I'm repeating anyone.
Opinions are just beliefs about the world, which are often subjective and rather vague when presented as opinions. You can't say any one is wrong, exactly, but an opinion is pointless and flaccid without justification. I other words, there still has to be reason behind an opinion; obviously, a rational person shouldn't hold a poorly justified opinion. "I hated that movie" is an opinion, and I suppose it can't be "proven wrong," as you might disprove a geocentric universe or w/e, but unless you unless you add "The size of the lead's head distracted me the whole time," you're just talking out of your ass.
People fly the "IMO" banner so they don't have to justify themselves; like going "IMO, there shouldn't be a mosque near ground zero." That's stupid though. The fact that it's "your opinion" doesn't justify the statement. It's irresponsible to assert conclusions without support, especially if you continue to ignore others who try to convince you otherwise (perhaps by trowing down a lot of facts) by saying things like "yeah, that's great, but it's just my opinion." That is when you're "wrong" about your opinion.
On another note, I don't think opinion and facts are necessarily opposite, based on how I've heard the terms used in college. I'll leave it at that for now.
Opinions are just beliefs about the world, which are often subjective and rather vague when presented as opinions. You can't say any one is wrong, exactly, but an opinion is pointless and flaccid without justification. I other words, there still has to be reason behind an opinion; obviously, a rational person shouldn't hold a poorly justified opinion. "I hated that movie" is an opinion, and I suppose it can't be "proven wrong," as you might disprove a geocentric universe or w/e, but unless you unless you add "The size of the lead's head distracted me the whole time," you're just talking out of your ass.
People fly the "IMO" banner so they don't have to justify themselves; like going "IMO, there shouldn't be a mosque near ground zero." That's stupid though. The fact that it's "your opinion" doesn't justify the statement. It's irresponsible to assert conclusions without support, especially if you continue to ignore others who try to convince you otherwise (perhaps by trowing down a lot of facts) by saying things like "yeah, that's great, but it's just my opinion." That is when you're "wrong" about your opinion.
On another note, I don't think opinion and facts are necessarily opposite, based on how I've heard the terms used in college. I'll leave it at that for now.
An opinion can be wrong if the information adquired to have such, is not valid, or insufficient.
We see a lot of that, people who wants to make videogames like the devil, from what they say, it's clear that they don't have a real information of what they are dealing with.
And not necessarily opinions are equal to personal tastes, you don't need to be informed or have a tangible reason to have the former... but then again, that's my opinion... haha.
We see a lot of that, people who wants to make videogames like the devil, from what they say, it's clear that they don't have a real information of what they are dealing with.
And not necessarily opinions are equal to personal tastes, you don't need to be informed or have a tangible reason to have the former... but then again, that's my opinion... haha.
Are you sure I thought that was the Persians or Mesopotamians. I am quite sure it was some middle eastern civ. I might be wrong but I definitely don't think it was Native Americans.tofulove said:
Anyway an opinion that is a ture opinion ie not based on fact cannot be wrong. You can be of the opinion that Leonardo Davinci's work was shit and that he wasted his life painting when he could of made better use of his talent and that would be fine. Saying something like it is my opinion that 2+2=5 or Chinese people have 4 eyes is not an opinion it is a false statement with my opinion tacked to the front.
You must think of an opinion in the same way as a question. There are no wrong questions for examply, there are just a lot of inquisitive idiots.
An actual opinion, no. A statement of "fact" disguised as an opinion, or that of a die hard, yes.
If you are normal then I would say not to put it less... confusingly.
If you are normal then I would say not to put it less... confusingly.
If its not subjective. It can. "I believe that portsmouth are the best team in the world"
They clearly are not because they have not won more games than all others. Therefore my opinion is wrong. Simple.
They clearly are not because they have not won more games than all others. Therefore my opinion is wrong. Simple.
An opinion cannot be wrong, but it can be un-informed.
For instance: "In my opinion, the NES is still more powerful than the PS3", would be wrong, because it's un-informed.
If you'll pardon the incredibly light-hearted example.
But end of the day an opinion is never truly wrong. It can be uninformed, ignorant, even stupid... but never wrong.
As the OP said, it's never a fact. It's an opinion. Facts can be wrong, an opinion can't. Nor can it be right and thus be considered an absolute truth.
For instance: "In my opinion, the NES is still more powerful than the PS3", would be wrong, because it's un-informed.
If you'll pardon the incredibly light-hearted example.
But end of the day an opinion is never truly wrong. It can be uninformed, ignorant, even stupid... but never wrong.
As the OP said, it's never a fact. It's an opinion. Facts can be wrong, an opinion can't. Nor can it be right and thus be considered an absolute truth.
That's still an opinion. You don't need to put 'I thought' or 'it's my opinion' or anything if your just saying something is crap. If you say Mass Effect sucks then we should all already know that's your opinion.The Austin said:
It's an opinion till you find that intelligent life. What you believe to be intelligent can be of opinion as well, there is a lot of people out there that believe that the human race is a plague.SheleKnights said:
