Poll: Can/do you play Nethack?

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FaceFaceFace

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I was looking for a good Dungeons and Dragons like rpg to play, so I decided to try playing nethack. After having no idea what keys to press, I finally learned to walk after about 10 minutes and then proceeded to fall into a pit and get killed by a rat. Anyone else turned off by the impossibility of this game?
 

Hazy

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Never tried it.

Sounds interesting, though. Any idea as to where I can find this?
 

FaceFaceFace

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Isn't Slash 'EM even harder than Nethack?
Anyway, you can play it online here http://alt.org/nethack/ but beware, its graphics are made entirely of font.
 

Statboy

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I've played it a bit,I got owned a bunch and loved it. Kinda got frustrating after the the 10th time though. I found a game like it called Elona. That game let you get up after you died, but still kicked my ass. Enjoyed it more than nethack however.
 

The Madman

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Nethack separates the men from the boys. If you can make it past the 15th level you're officially a gaming demi-god. And if, somehow, against all odds you manage to actually beat the game rumor has it you transcend your mortal coils and become one with the universe. True story!

But yes obviously I've played Nethack. Quite a bit actually. And the difficulty of the game is part of the charm, you aren't really *meant* to win. This is a game built akin to the old style where it was the ride that counted, not fancy graphics or a snazzy epilogue. You do your best, have fun doing it, and try to get a sweet high score. It is also insanely big after having been tweaked and adjusted over nearly twenty years.

For example I was once playing a Monk, worshiper of the good gods and a beacon of righteousness in the dark. Unfortunately being righteous and awesome doesn't mean food magically appears from nowhere, so I was doing my usual thing scavenging food from my fallen foes and buying rations when a shop showed up. Regardless I had just finished clearing my way through some Dwarven mines and one of the Dwarves had been carrying a collection of tinned food, which I was munching on as I descended deeper into the labyrith. About 2 levels lower it struck, my character passed out and was left helpless, laying on the ground doing what I thought was dying from some poison or another as I desperately tried to figure out what had happened! A trap somewhere? A spell? Hunger? I didn't know, and to make it even stranger there came a rumbling as the anger of the good god came upon me for betraying him, and I didn't even know what I'd done.

Then he awoke, and I realized what'd happened and burst out laughing. The food from earlier, one it em had contained wolves mean. *WEREWOLF* meat apparently. And my lawful good monk had been afflicted and transformed into one of the creatures of evil, pissing off the gods but giving my character a whole slew of powerful abilities and making him insanely powerful for his level. A monk werewolf? Crazy good... not good enough however as directed by the wrath of his god all the forces of evil turned at once and began hunting my poor character. I ran, but found myself in a dead end, and there I made my final stand. Howling to terrify my enemies I blockaded the doorway and forced them to come at me one by one, the bodies piling up before me and my Monk leveling at least three times from the non-stop combat.

Then came the Liches, driven from the depths of the deeper levels two of them began to raise around me the dead of my fallen enemies. It was a brutal brawl, fighting my way through the reanimated corpses and trying to get to the liches who stood in the back and continued to bring them to life anew. I got one, it went down swiftly to fang and claw, butt exhaustion set in and my monk collapsed, transforming back into a human just as the hordes surged once again. Fought as best I could, but it was no use. He died. My highest score yet!

You don't get that sorta experience in any other game. I love Nethack. And that was only one character, I've had dozens more. Never beaten the game. Farthest I've gotten was the 18th floor. But you don't *need* to win to enjoy it!
 

Twad

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Tried. Died several times, i think i managed to get to level 5 or something like that. My main gripe with the game isnt the difficulty (of the "game" in itself); its manageable if you are carefull.. its the user interface is one of the clumsiest that exist, even Dwarf fortress isnt as complicated... and both games are very, VERY deep.

Heck, almost every button on the keyboard is associated with some function, wich may or may not obliterate you in the next timeframe and may or may not make any sense at all. Now how am i supposed to drink a potion.. what do i press? This? Oops.. nope.. This? Nope, i dont want to sleep with the rock.. oh no, a monster poped up while a was poking around.. oops, im dead, again.
Basically, you fight more against the interface than you fight the monsters and traps inside the dungeons.

Elona has this problem too, interface is confusing as hell. Too many buttons that do nothing usefull.

Edit; these games are often very brutal about mistkes since stuff is often poisoned/disease/cursed ect ect, if you dont die of starvation or die from falling from your horse... when stationary.
 

Rensenhito

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Nethack / Slash'em are hard. Yeah. But you know what? They're supposed to be. That's what makes them fun. In fact, half the fun is just in learning what all the buttons do! It's not the kind of game you can beat the first time you play. Hell, it's not the kind of game you can beat the THOUSANDTH time you play. It's the kind of game where experimentation and implementation of the results are key.

The permutation of NetHack I play is called Vulture's Claw. It's played from an isometric view, there are actual character models, and the interface is really clean and organized. I have a blast with it.
 

Weaver

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Nethack is on my universities terminals :p

Anyways, nethack is an example of why us old and jaded PC gamers are so sick of the young console going kids now a days with their games with difficulties ranging from "taking a nap" to "walk in the park"
 

SimuLord

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I think I'll stick to the old Wizardry games with pencil and graph paper. Nethack's a bit much even for my tastes.
 

FaceFaceFace

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TheStickman said:
Guess what else is hard? I Wanna Be The Guy is also hard.
I Wanna be the Guy also has a saving feature and doesn't require you to memorize one command for each key on the keyboard.
 

More Fun To Compute

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I don't like Nethack. I'd much rather play Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup or DoomRL. Both are still challenging but more fair and don't leave you thinking that it was made by someone who likes stupid practical jokes.
 

TheStickman

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FaceFaceFace said:
TheStickman said:
Guess what else is hard? I Wanna Be The Guy is also hard.
I Wanna be the Guy also has a saving feature and doesn't require you to memorize one command for each key on the keyboard.
I never said it was harder than Nethack, I just said it was hard.
 

FaceFaceFace

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The Madman said:
You don't get that sorta experience in any other game. I love Nethack. And that was only one character, I've had dozens more. Never beaten the game. Farthest I've gotten was the 18th floor. But you don't *need* to win to enjoy it!
I don't disagree, and I can see how that situation would be fun. Unfortunately my experience was more akin to Oregon Trail with me dying from a totally random death caused by me doing something I was supposed to do anyway, eat. Though so was yours, so, yeah...
 

Erana

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FaceFaceFace said:
TheStickman said:
Guess what else is hard? I Wanna Be The Guy is also hard.
I Wanna be the Guy also has a saving feature and doesn't require you to memorize one command for each key on the keyboard.
Eh, you'll get used to it after a bit. I mean, I never memorized the equipping/unequipping whatnot.

And yes, NetHack is painfully difficult, but if you can look past that, the game is so damn awesome you'll love it forever.

Or if you're not the type of person whose going to deticate endless hours of their lives to crack the rock that is this 80's gem, there's always explore mode.
The button is either Z or X, I can't recall exactly...
What that does is it asks you if you want to die. Just say "no" and you can explore as much as you want. Mess around with mind flayers, play with polymorph traps, piss off the Gods themselves-
it becomes your playground at that point, and there is nothing wrong with explore mode.
 

Nicolai

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nethack is possible, but a challenge to be mastered. Mostly it's about learning your class limitations and how to mitigate them as well as finding enough resources to survive. It's a game for learning and caution, rather like an Old School Gygax game. It's not about over the top Heroic action that gets you killed, because that's what happens. It's a struggle, just like surviving a dungeon crawl should be.