Poll: Censorship: Is it to blame?

[JemJar]

Thats an easy thing to say for someone who doesn't go to school but for one thing not every child is a dickhead and for another corporal punishment will just make children hate school and fear it and not benefit from it.

Imagine going to work when your manager had the option to beat you, you wouldnt want to go, would you?

I am an adult; and whilst the subject of what "being grown up" means is open to debate, one of the biggest things is the ability to correlate cause and effect. For example, I correlate my working hard on my project to getting a good mark. I correlate being polite and kind to people with receiving kindness in the future.

Children however generally have problem putting 1 and "1 later" together (it comes to "2 in the future" by the way) and respond very quickly to positive and negative stimuli. If a child steals a cake, they eat the cake and it's good. If there is no negative response then the child comes away with a good experience and will take another cake. Yelling at a child only goes so far... especially if the child is exposed to a lot of it at home...

Interesting Things.

It's hard to be sure of reporting rates for really any crime, but I'd be surprised to find that violent attacks on teachers aren't increasing - kids losing it and lashing out is one thing but I don't remember stab-proof vests being a sound investment for teachers when I was a kid.

I did not know that the US hadn't gotten round to abandoning corporal punishment - though given the continued use of capital punishment I shouldn't really be surprised.

Do we have a linked issue that (beyond the lack of corporal punishment) kids know perfectly well that their rights are massively enshrined in law (at least in Europe they are!) and therefore know they can get away with a ridiculous amount? I'm the last person to claim that someone should be damned for their entire life for one act, certainly one act as a child, but the inability of society to deal with the low level crime is getting silly.

 

[Inverse Skies]

Recent slip in society? There is no such thing. What we're seeing here is the classic example of a generation thinking the next one coming is going to ruin everything because their habits, culture and the way they act is different to their own. What people easily forget is that the generation above them thought the exact same thing and nothing has come of it. There is no slip in society and censorship laws have nothing to do with it. In other words, don't worry about it as there is nothing to worry about here at all.

 

[Lord Krunk]

Okay, people really need to understand that the "slip" in society is very real, even if it is a poor choice of phrase.

I'm based in the UK and happen to know a large number of school teachers (it gets upsetting when most of your friends join "the enemy") and the change in discipline is shocking.

Let's be honest, it doesn't actually matter if people swear, it's just a word and it's stupid. But the concept of teachers genuinely being at risk of physical abuse and violence from their pupils is a very new one. I've got a friend who came home from school one day with bruises and bite marks from some scrote who laid into him - the kid got suspended, the parents hardly gave a damn and he returned to school looking smug.

I don't think censorship becoming more lax can be described as the key factor in this erosion of mutual respect in society but I can't accept any claim it's helping.

Controversial as it is, the more time I spend with my teacher friends the more I'd like to see a return of corporal punishment (caning etc) to the classroom.

The UK must be a strange (and ridiculously violent) place then, because I go to one of the (notoriously) roughest schools in Sydney and apart from the occasional fight (mostly pranks pulled by the year 7s though), it's a pretty awesome place to be.

I'm sorry, but stuff like that is almost unheard of over here, maybe your friends are making stuff up for sympathy points? Because there is no decline. In fact, I think that society is actually becoming better, more accepting place (which will hopefully show as soon as our generation takes the reins).

 

[hippykiller]

I blame videogames.

Could we have a "plausible" option.

You blame video games? then what the hell are you doing at this web site? this entire web site is for gamers. so if you blame video games for the "slip of society" than get the hell out! oh and you spelled (Did you mean spelt???) plausible wrong i changed it for you.

Thank you for correcting my spelling, I have edited my post accordingly.
You have however forgotten several capitals.
I am on the website, not at the website.
Spelt not spelled.

"so if you blame video games for the "slip of society" than get the hell out"

This sentence does not make sense.

I was actually joking, I was saying it sarcastically to demonstrate my own frustration at the medias tendency to pin almost anything on videogames.

Please ensure your own grammer, punctuation and tenses are correct, whilst correcting mine. I understand that tone is hard to convey, but I thought mine was kind of obvious.

well yes i was joking too but the only thing i blame the media for doing to games is putting billboards all over the fucking game city. like in need for speed underground 2. have you ever played that game? there in a billboard for sprint or Burger King on every street corner. (oh and if you see any grammar problems here i am sorry but i never really payed attention in English class lol)

 

[mattw895]

I think its just too complex really. Its the Parent's job to teach the child manners, and to respect elders. But then the media puts up all the violence. Kids who think they're cool swear in school and talk crap because they can't do it at home, creating in a sense a double standard. Or a double personality, I don't mean dual personalities psychologically speaking though. I meant in a behaviour sense which also comes back to the learnt behaviour thing. You learn to put out for your audience. You parents want good behaviour, and your fans want bad. That said theres not alot we can do nowdays. As someone pointed out weak moral and will within families. And its humans nature to rebel. Against rules and against each other.

 

[Bendon]

Shouldn't it be up to parents to parent their kids?

 

[Twilight_guy]

A more lax standard of censorship reflects a more lax attitude of society. So blame society!
Seriously though a more lax general view means that parents are more likely to be less restrictive to their kids. Less restrictions mean wilder and more unruly children. Therefor, It's the parents fault!
On a sidenote I believe that how your kids turn out is entirely the parent's responsibility. I live in the same mess up world as every one else but my parents managed to raise me up right.

 

[tenlong]

the soccer moms need to learn to raise their kids. they let games and tv be the parent and they wonder why they turn out to be assholes.they also have no morals or the sense to tell fantasy and reality. they need to realize that little billy don't have any business with m rated games . billy just not gonna get their way.[ain't that just a shame.] but they would have raise their kids if they did that. when i was a kid my mom would let me play certain games. one time she went onto a gaming website and show the reason she wouldn't let me play a game i wanted. think how many soccer moms would that